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Title: Pushing QUICK STIMULUS - WHY? - TONS OF HIDDEN MANURE
Post by: nChrist on February 10, 2009, 11:53:06 AM
Brothers and Sisters,

They're about to vote in about an hour, and some are just now finding all kinds of rotten apples hidden in the tons of paper. In fact, the tons of paper has regular blobs of manure! Nobody seems to know what's in this monster, and they won't before they vote! It's sickening and disgusting to spend this much money on garbage, evil, and socialism. Here's just one example, not to include a plan of the Federal Government regulating how much or how little health care that seniors get in BEING COST EFFECTIVE!
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A call to action from former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich and U.S. Senator Jim DeMint to stop ACLU supported bill

Democrats vote to discriminate against Christians and people of faith
Take Action!

Send an e-mail and call your representative and two senators today! Tell them to remove the language discriminating against people of faith. In addition, please take the time to call your representative and two senators. The phone number where you can reach both your representative and two senators is 202-224-3121.

February 9, 2009

Dear Tom and Sharon,

President Obama's stimulus bill discriminates against Christians and people of faith. The stimulus bans universities and colleges from using funds to renovate buildings where students engage in "religious worship."

U.S. Senator Jim DeMint made the following statement after Democrats voted 43-54 against his amendment to strike from the economic stimulus bill language that discriminates against people of faith. Senator DeMint's amendment would have eliminated a provision that bans any university or college receiving restoration funds, from allowing "sectarian instruction" or "religious worship" within the facility. This would in effect bar use of campus buildings for groups like Fellowship of Christian Athletes, Campus Crusade for Christ, Catholic Student Ministries, Hillel and other religious organizations.

"This is a direct attack on students of faith, and I'm outraged Democrats are using an economic stimulus bill to promote discrimination," said Sen. DeMint. "Democrats should be ashamed of themselves for siding with the ACLU over millions of students of faith. These students simply want equal access to public facilities, which is their constitutional right. This hostility toward religion must end. Those who voted for this discrimination are standing in the schoolhouse door to keep people of faith from entering any campus building renovated by this bill.

"This is now an ACLU stimulus designed to trigger lawsuits designed to intimidate religious organizations across the nation. This language is so vague, it's not clear if students can even pray in a dorm room renovated with this funding since that is a form of 'religious worship.' If this provision remains in the bill, it will have a chilling effect on students of faith in America" he continued.

"Our culture cannot survive without faith and our nation cannot survive without freedom. This provision is an assault against both. It's un-American and it's unconstitutional. Intolerant and it's intolerable."

This funding restriction is unconstitutional. In the 2001 Good News Club v. Milford Central School Supreme Court decision, the court ruled that restricting religious speech within the context of public shared-use facilities (or schools) is unconstitutional.

Pages 164-165 of the stimulus contain the following prohibitions on the use of $3.5 billion available for renovation of public or private college and university facilities.

    (2) PROHIBITED USES OF FUNDS. No funds awarded under this section may be used for - (C) modernization, renovation, or repair of facilities (i) used for sectarian instruction, religious worship, or a school or department of divinity; or (ii) in which a substantial portion of the functions of the facilities are subsumed in a religious mission; or construction of new facilities.

Former Speaker Newt Gingrich urges Christian activists and other conservatives to e-mail and call their representative and senators demanding that the language discriminating against people of faith be removed.

Gingrich feels that if Christian activists would have enough courage and holy anger to e-mail and call their representatives and senators, a number of Democrats would vote no on final passage. We should demand that this anti-religious provision be removed.

Christians have not expressed enough outrage focused on the concept that people of faith are being taken advantage of by the stimulus bill during a time of crisis. They are being stolen from them when they are down and out and looking in good faith to the government for help. Instead of the stimulus we need, the liberals are getting the pork that they want -- for themselves, their families, and their friends. They are pickpockets and thieves preying on the down and out.

It's as if the Good Samaritan had come over to the man who was robbed and left for dead, bent over, and reached for his wallet and ran on his way instead of helping. It's like the looter who takes advantage of a natural disaster to steal."

The liberals are taking advantage of a crisis, just like Rahm Emanuel said. His quote: "'You never want a serious crisis to go to waste,' Rahm Emanuel, Mr. Obama's new chief of staff, told a Wall Street Journal conference of top corporate chief executives this week." - WSJ, Nov. 21, 2008.

America is in crisis, and the liberals are looting America's future to pay off their special interests. This is corruption of the highest order. E-mail and call your representative and two senators today!
Take Action!

Send an e-mail and call your representative and two senators today! Tell them to remove the language discriminating against people of faith. In addition, please take the time to call your representative and two senators. The phone number where you can reach both your representative and two senators is 202-224-3121.
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Title: Re: Pushing QUICK STIMULUS - WHY? - TONS OF HIDDEN MANURE
Post by: nChrist on February 10, 2009, 12:04:35 PM
Speaker Pelosi’s Payoffs and Pork Bill
H.R. 1, “The American Recovery & Reinvestment Act of 2009”

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) recently found that the cost of the Pelosi-Reid stimulus package now exceeds $1.1 trillion. CBO also estimated that only 7 percent of infrastructure money would make its way into the economy by the end of the year and only 38 percent would be spent by the end of the 2010 fiscal year.

Senator Jeff Session’s (R-Ala.) office estimates the actual number going to tangible road and bridge construction is just a little more than 3 percent. Where is this money going to? A not exhaustive look at the 1,588 page legislation, H.R. 1, “The American  Recovery & Reinvestment Act of 2009” shows the bill is more payoffs and pork then stimulus. Many thanks to the website readthestimulus.org and its participating organizations.

PAYOFFS
To the “Green” Lobby

$600 Million To Buy New Cars For Government Workers (Page 89)
These cars would be “green” friendly cars – however very few gas pumps have the right gas to run these cars. The Federal government already spends $3.5 billion a year.

$10M for bike and walking trails (Page 65)

$200M for plug-in car stations (Page 31)

$400 million for NASA scientists to conduct climate change research (Page 22)

$800 million to clean up Superfund sites (Page 122)

$600 million for grants for diesel emission reduction (Page 119)

$650 million for “alternative energy technologies, energy efficiency enhancements and deferred maintenance at Federal facilities” (Page 119)

$1.5 billion for construction of “Green Schools” (Page 176)

To the Unions

$1 billion to the controversial COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING SERVICES COPS Hiring Program

“$150 billion in new federal spending, a vast two-year investment that would more than double the Department of Education’s current budget. The proposed emergency expenditures on nearly every realm of education, including school renovation, special education, Head Start and grants to needy college students” Sam Dillon, “Stimulus Plan Would Provide Flood of Aid to Education,” New York Times. January 27, 2009.
NOTE: Private and religious schools are excluded.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/28/education/28educ.html?_r=1

To the Abortion Industry

Representative Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) inserted in the original bill billions of dollars for family planning groups, including the abortion giant, Planned Parenthood. Pressure and public exposure from Congressional Republicans forced the Democrats to remove such funding from this bill. However the bill still provides billions in reforming the health care system and working towards nationalized health care – with little to no debate.

$2.7B in NIH grants which would be targeted to among other things embryonic stem cell
experimentation. (Page 56)

Other Special Interests

$3 Billion for Prevention & ubgone29, Including $335 million for STD Education and Prevention -- Recent government expenditures in this area include a transgender beauty pageant in San Francisco that advertised available HIV testing and an event called “Got Love? – Flirt/Date/Score” that taught participants how “to flirt with greater finesse.”

$83 billion for the earned income credit for people who don't pay income tax.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123310466514522309.html

$246 million for Hollywood http://www.nationaljournal.com/congressdaily/cda_20090127_9337.php

$50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts (Page 122)

$75 million for smoking cessation (Page 148). This contradicts the latest version of SCHIP that is funded largely by new taxes on cigarettes.

$4.19 billion open to ACORN. The Pelosi-Reid bill makes groups like ACORN eligible for a

$4.19 billion pot of money for “neighborhood stabilization activities.”

MISCELLANEOUS PORK

Some of the biggest winners in the package are federal agencies:

$54 billion will go to federal programs that the Office of Management and Budget or the Government Accountability Office have already criticized as "ineffective" or unable to pass basic financial audits.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123310466514522309.html

$462 Million for Equipment, Construction, and Renovation of Facilities at the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) (Page 137)

$150 Million for Repairs to Smithsonian Institution Facilities (Page 128)

$44 million to the Agricultural Research Service (Page 135)

$227 million for oversight of the pork barrel spending in the stimulus (Page 11)

$1 Billion for The Follow-Up To The 2010 Census (Page 49) Discretion is given to governors and Mayors for how to spend a large chunk of the money. The U.S.
Conference of Mayors recently sent Congress a $96.6 billion wish list of "shovel-ready" projects which now could be funded by the stimulus. These projects include: “

$1 million for annual sewer rehabilitation in Casper, WY;

$6.1 million for corporate hangars, parking lots, and a business apron at the Fayetteville, AR airport; 28 projects with the term "stadium" in them; and 117 projects mentioning landscaping and/or beautification efforts. The taxpayers should be most teed off at the 20 golf courses included in the list.”

http://www.ntu.org/main/press.php?PressID=1083&org_name=NTU
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Title: Re: Pushing QUICK STIMULUS - WHY? - TONS OF HIDDEN MANURE
Post by: nChrist on February 10, 2009, 12:06:20 PM
H.R. 1 is the largest pork barrel spending bill in the history of our country. Here are more examples of the "pork" included:

    * $20 million "for the removal of small- to medium-sized fish passage barriers." (Pg. 45 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: "20,000,000 for the removal of small- to medium-sized fish passage barriers)
       
    * $400 million for STD prevention (Pg. 60 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: "CDC estimates that a proximately 19 million new STD infections occur annually in the United States ...The Committee has included $400,000,000 for testing and prevention of these conditions.")
       
    * $25 million to rehabilitate off-roading (ATV) trails (Pg. 45 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: "$25,000,000 is for recreation maintenance, especially for rehabilitation of off-road vehicle routes, and $20,000,000 is for trail maintenance and restoration")
       
    * $34 million to remodel the Department of Commerce HQ (Pg. 15 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: $34,000,000 for the Department of Commerce renovation and modernization")
       
    * $70 million to "Support Supercomputing Activities" for climate research (Pgs. 14-15 of Senate Appropriations Committee Report: $70,000,000 is directed to specifically support supercomputing activities, especially as they relate to climate research)
       
    * $150 million for honey bee insurance (Pg. 102 of Senate Appropriations Committee report: "The Secretary shall use up to $ 50,000,000 per year, and $150,000,000 in the case of 2009, from the Trust Fund to provide emergency relief to eligible producers of livestock, honey bees, and farm-raised fish to aid in the reduction of losses due to disease, adverse weather, or other conditions, such as blizzards and wildfires, as determined by the Secretary")

TAKE ACTION!

• Help us send one million e-mails to Speaker Pelosi. Tell Speaker Pelosi that you are fed up with pledges being made and broken.
• Please forward this to all your friends and family and ask them to take a pledge not to vote for a member, of either party, who lies to the people.

 


.American Family Association – Tupelo, MS 38803

www.afa.net


Title: Re: Pushing QUICK STIMULUS - WHY? - TONS OF HIDDEN MANURE
Post by: nChrist on February 10, 2009, 12:33:39 PM
Brothers and Sisters,

This monster ton of manure IS NOT A ONE-TIME EXPENDITURE. This bill has continuing outlays of huge sums of money every year until someone gets it stopped. The ONGOING WASTE OF MONEY IS ON SOCIAL ENGINEERING like paying for healthcare for the children of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS - CHILDREN UP TO THE AGE OF 30.

It has more than the BEGINNING OF SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. In fact, there are many different kinds of JUMPING HEAD-FIRST INTO THE DARKNESS OF SOCIALISM HIDDEN IN THE PILES OF PAPER.

There is NO TRANSPARENCY OF ANY KIND UNLESS YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN DONE AFTER THE FACT! - AFTER THE PASSAGE! YOU CAN FIND OUT ABOUT ALL OF IT THEN - BUT THINGS HAVE TO BE DONE TOO QUICKLY TO INFORM ANYONE BEFORE THE VOTES. MUCH OF THIS HAS BEEN DONE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AND IS NOT BI-PARTISAN AT ALL - ZERO BI-PARTISAN! Brothers and Sisters, this is so bad that a group of liberal Democrats feel so bad about it that they're going to talk with President Obama. At last count, there were 11 Democrats firm against it and the number was growing. There is now more HASTE THAN EVER BECAUSE OPPOSITION IS GROWING AS PEOPLE AND REPRESENTATIVES BECOME INFORMED ABOUT ALL THE MANURE IN THIS BILL. The bottom line is simple: this bill is NOT A STIMULUS BILL DESIGNED TO SAVE JOBS AND HELP PEOPLE, although there is a percentage of the package that does that. There are huge on-going costs from now on created by this SOCIALISM-COMMUNISM BILL THAT DON'T MAKE JOBS OR HELP ANYONE! There is lip-service that sounds REAL PRETTY - and serious -SERIOUS - talk that it MUST BE DONE IMMEDIATELY - CAN'T WAIT - ACTION - ACTION - CAN'T AFFORD TO WAIT. WHY THE HURRY TO THE EXTENT THAT MOST CAN'T EVEN READ THE BILL - MUCH LESS HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THEY PUT IN IT AT THE LAST MINUTE!??  THINGS ARE DEFINITELY BAD, BUT THIS BILL WILL FINISH US OFF IN MY OPINION. THE CRISIS NEEDS TO BE WORSE SO THAT THERE IS NO WAY TO EVER DIG OUT OF THE MONEY HOLE! This is the perfect OPPORTUNITY IN ONE SWIFT STROKE TO DO AWAY WITH A FREE COUNTRY. SADLY, IT WILL SOUND GOOD TO MANY WHILE THEY'RE PUTTING THE NAILS IN THE COFFIN OF A ONCE FREE COUNTRY!

There is NO FREE LUNCH - someone always has to pay for it. In this case, the back of an entire country will be broken with something that has ZERO chance of doing half of what the lip-service promises. BY THE WAY, DID I MENTION THERE'S ANOTHER TRILLION DOLLAR PACKAGE BEING WORKED ON RIGHT NOW TO FOLLOW THIS ONE? Don't ask any questions - JUST TRUST THE GOVERNMENT. In this case - THE MAIN ARCHITECTS ARE IMMENSELY INTELLIGENT:  HARRY REID AND NANCY PELOSI!! I'm listening to a SLICK TALKING PRETTY GUY TALKING RIGHT NOW ABOUT NO MORE TIME TO WAIT! A TOUR TO THE PEOPLE FROM THE SLY FOX IS NECESSARY TO PURCHASE THE FINAL NAILS FOR THE COFFIN! THE LYING DECEPTION IS AMAZING WHILE THE PEOPLE CHEER!


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Title: Re: Pushing QUICK STIMULUS - WHY? - TONS OF HIDDEN MANURE
Post by: Soldier4Christ on February 10, 2009, 12:51:36 PM
Well, it has gotten passed. The stench in Washington is just getting started and it can already be smelled nationwide.



Title: Re: Pushing QUICK STIMULUS - WHY? - TONS OF HIDDEN MANURE
Post by: nChrist on February 10, 2009, 01:02:21 PM
Small Sample of Headlines:

Obama taps 'porn lawyer' for #2 spot at Justice Dept.

People of faith may be target of 'stimulus' package

Perspective: The 'stimulus' package - all economists agree?

Obama outlines his 'faith-based' program

Media scrutiny different for Obama than for Bush

Will rights of faith-based groups be set back?

Haggard, homosexuality, and media spin

Non-stimulating projects in 'stimulus' bill

Talk of 'global' TV channel raises eyebrows

New law a first step toward socialized medicine

Hilda Solis - another 'taxing' embarrassment for Obama?

Perspective: The Employee Intimidation Act

Congressional pay raise 'ludicrous' during recession

SCHIP enables bad parenting, benefits illegal aliens

The media's eternal honeymoon with Obama

Hawaii on deck to legalize same-sex unions

Chicago schools - incubator for homosexual indoctrination

BLOG: Where is the Heralded Transparency?

BLOG: Selfish Parents Ruin Childhood According to New Study

BLOG: Pelosi Pledges to Cut Out the Pork

Weekend Poll: Who's to blame?

Anti-faith language remains in stimulus package

Ad rips U.S. gov't for allowing foreign workers

Is your state for or against life?

Feature: Abortion's other victims

Live - 11 former Gitmo detainees on Saudi most wanted list (video discussion)

Live - Are Democrats out to silence conservative airways?

Live - Bible-based Christianity losing its influence in America (video discussion)

Live - How dangerous is television to your health? (video discussion)

Live - Methodist Liberation Organization launches anti-Israel campaign (video discussion)

Live - Will Christian groups be out of the money?

Report: Pro-abortion governor near top for health post

Christian broadcasters see threat of censorship

Parental rights focus of amendment push

Perspective: Ogden's epiphany - believable?

Obama's 'duplicity' on life issue

TN: Adoption by married couples best for children

College wrong to host week of 'sexploration'

The sky is not falling...economically speaking

Perspective: Back on Uncle Sam's plantation

So. Baptist among White House 'faith office' advisors

He who has an earmark, let him receive ...

Volcker's financial plans threaten Americans' privacy

Perspective: How the media helped Barack become president

Families of terror victims 'guarded' after Obama meeting

Obama healthcare plan would shut down private sector

Kansas gov. 'unfit' for Obama's health secretary



Title: Re: Pushing QUICK STIMULUS - WHY? - TONS OF HIDDEN MANURE
Post by: nChrist on February 10, 2009, 01:06:04 PM
Obama nominates pro-porn, pro-abortion lawyer for the number 2 position in the office of the Attorney General

Phone calls need now!

Your phone calls are urgently needed now! President Obama has nominated David Ogden to be the second person in command in the U.S. office of the Attorney General! Ogden must be confirmed by the Senate.

Call your two senators and tell them to vote against the Ogden nomination. Ogden is no friend of the family.

• As an attorney in private practice, David W. Ogden has filed briefs pushing for gays in the military.
• He has litigated numerous obscenity and pornography cases on behalf of clients like Playboy, Penthouse, the ACLU and the largest distributor of hardcore pornographic movies.

In various cases, he has filed briefs opposing:
• parental notification before a minor’s abortion
• spousal notification before an abortion
• the military’s policy against public homosexuals serving in uniform
• the Children’s Internet Protection Act and the Child Protection and Obscenity Enforcement Act.

Take Action!

Make your phone call today! Get others to call. Tell your senators to vote against the nomination of David Ogden to the second position at the attorney general’s office. You can reach both of your senators at this number: 202-224-3121.


Title: Re: Pushing QUICK STIMULUS - WHY? - TONS OF HIDDEN MANURE
Post by: nChrist on February 10, 2009, 01:54:44 PM
Well, it has gotten passed. The stench in Washington is just getting started and it can already be smelled nationwide.



YES - I was very sad to hear that and couldn't even finish my posts. Who knows what they will do next?

All kidding aside, this is like the Outer Limits and the Twilight Zone, except it's real. I going to get some more information from my representatives and see what they have planned. Maybe this isn't a completely done deal yet, or maybe it is?

I also have to take my old dog to the vet, and I'm hoping that I get to come home with him. He's a faithful old friend, and I really don't want to give him up yet unless he's in pain. Regardless, this is coming soon. He's working on 18 years old, and I'm sure that I'm going to be a baby about things when it comes time. I'll holler at everyone in a little bit.