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Title: Why not Huckabee
Post by: itsmeagaingod on September 08, 2008, 04:30:33 PM
That was my pick for Mccain...actually was my pick for president!  Exactly what this country needs is MORALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Why not Huckabee
Post by: itsmeagaingod on September 08, 2008, 06:53:57 PM
although when I heard on the radio on the way home from work that Mccain had picked a woman for his vice president running mate...I could not help but think how genious that was!


Title: Re: Why not Huckabee
Post by: Soldier4Christ on September 08, 2008, 07:08:43 PM
Having Sarah Palin as VP is actually better than having Huckabee. She doesn't have the history that Huckabee has therefore a lot less that the opponents can dig up on her. They have been trying really hard to find something on her but so far they can't find anything that doesn't come back on them.

This is much better in many other ways also.



Title: Re: Why not Huckabee
Post by: itsmeagaingod on September 08, 2008, 07:18:39 PM
many other ways such as?  I did not read all your posts on her but what I read I like.  Lot of questions though...she definately does not have a ton of experience...but she sure seems to put the fire under corruption quick...honesty in a politician...you gotta love it!  Also she has a special needs child...that's a full time job in itself, i realize she will have a ton of help but still.  To be quite honest she may be the only one out of the bunch worth voting for, maybe we can write her in as president lol.


Title: Re: Why not Huckabee
Post by: Soldier4Christ on September 08, 2008, 07:41:33 PM
I think that the VP slot fits perfect for her at the moment.

She may have a special needs child but how many other politicians have children that may require a lot of attention? Those that have made such a big deal about this are mostly those on the left and it is as if they are indicating it is only the woman's responsibility to take care of the family and the man of the family has nothing to do with it. Yet they are supposed to be the ones that are so much for equal rights for women. Go figure.

"other ways" I'll just let a list of her experiences speak for themselves. They are greater than Obama's and he is running for president.

Political Experience:

    * Former Council Member of Wasilla City Council, Alaska
    * Fought wasteful spending and high taxes
    * Former Mayor of Wasilla City, Alaska
    * Led the fight against cronyism and wasteful spending
    * Candidate, Lieutenant Governor, Alaska, 2002 (Came in 2nd)
    * Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission 2003 - 2004
    * Rooted out major corruption and fought party bosses (and won)
    * Governor of Alaska, 2006-present
    * Beat party bosses and incumbent Gov of her own Party, ran on an anti-corruption platform

Compare that to Obama's experience:

Political Experience:

    * State Senator, Illinois, 1996-2004
    * No initiatives or legislation of notice, many non-votes and little by way of a record
    * U.S. Senator, Illinois, 2005-present
    * No initiatives or legislation of notice, little time spent in Washington as he’s been running for president since 2004



Title: Re: Why not Huckabee
Post by: itsmeagaingod on September 09, 2008, 02:12:31 PM
I took the time last night to sit and view each candidates acceptance speeches on you tube as I had not seen it and am a firm believer if you are gonna speak on a subject try to be educated on it...don't accept what your coworkers or family tells you.  Get your info. straight from the horses mouth as they would say!  Let me preface by saying Sarah Palin is impressive isn't she...a real feisty one lol!  Let me also say that John McCain gave a impressive speech as well.  I like the idea of holding teachers accountable and rewarding them according to how their students are academically achieving...not just the top 1/3 of the class but all students.  I had to giggle when he said they would help bad teachers find a different line of work, as i feel education in this country is horrific.  The no child left behind was a good concept but not a great plan.  I also had to giggle when he said he was gonna quit sending 700 million dollars to countries who don't like us very much...I think it was million the statement was so right on I never caught the exact amount...I just know it was a bunch.  I think the Democratic speeches paled in comparision to the republican's.  I am a registered Democrat but i always, always, always vote for who I think is the best person for the job.  Used to be able to say man for the job, but not so anymore huh lol.  Let me also say that I think that the middle class financially does better when a Democratic president is in office, however there is not a Democratic candidate to vote for in my opinion, and had McCain not found someone to run with I had no intentions of voting.

I however have some issues with McCain and I am gonna note a presidential election topics page that I looked at when I was deciding on who I thought would be the best candidate for president:
http://www.2decide.com/table.htm


If you look closely McCain was against drilling...not sure if that was the idea that long term drilling was not the one answer to our energy crisis or if he was just against it in general.  So if he was against it then why now when his running mate is for it is he all of a sudden for it?  We need to be self sufficient on energy and I think drilling is not the single answer although he noted many more resources, so why are we not using them NOW!

I also am not sure how you can possibly be against abortion but for embryonic stem cell research?  And let me tell you I think this race should from a christian perspective be about morality...if you look mostly at what is wrong with this world today MORALITY will smack you right in the face!  Although, I think the candidate should also be strong on healthcare issues, the iraq war etc...

The Iraq war well that opens up a huge can of worms huh?  We are there and I don't think we can just pack up and leave now...not only would it not be beneficial to the iraq people but very harmful to us as well.  Should we stay forever, of course not.  But it was noted that the iraq government has a surplus in their economy why ours is unbelievably in debt, to the point I don't want to even think about it.  And how long after we leave before things are volatile there again? 

Finally for me healthcare, that's a biggie for me I work in the healthcare field and feel we should have some sort of a universal healthcare system...I think it is high time that the drug companies and insurance companies stop running this country!!!  We don't need Canada's healthcare, or England's etc...but one that fits us, because this one does not work!!!  If your young you may think it works fine now but wait until you get older and have to decide between eating or paying for your high cost medicines and medical bills!  And don't we owe some respect and honor to our elderly, it's high time we give them the respect they deserve and put their issues first to!   In the mix of healthcare you have to think about the increase in illegal immigrants raising healthcare costs and i am all for McCains idea of citizenship path for illegal immigrants...if you want to be here fine but pay the same taxes I do, same healthcare costs etc...that is the american dream  ;D!

overall I like the McCain/Palin ticket but the issues above concern me and it also concerns me that McCain has voted with Bush the majority of the time.  I just hope Palin would keep him in check  ;D.


Title: Re: Why not Huckabee
Post by: Soldier4Christ on September 09, 2008, 03:08:43 PM
A lot to comment on but it is a lot of very good points. First of all I can tell that you lean towards socialism. Not an altogether bad idea as even Jesus and Apostles did support a form of socialism. Unfortunately when governments move that direction they usually continue on into complete communism and the form of socialism/communism is one that is usually one that is overly oppressive where a few select people get really rich and the vast majority of people get poorer.

As for democrats. I cannot in all good conscience sign up to be a democrat because of their primary uniform platform which is against everything that the Bible teaches. (abortion, same sex garbage, etc.) Yes, there are many in the republican side that also support those things also. That is why I registered as "other" and then vote according to the person themselves.

Be careful going by the list that you posted a link to. It is not altogether correct. It is also difficult to get a persons stance without amplifying information. It leaves too many questions just as the ones that you have presented here plus more.

(http://If you look closely McCain was against drilling...not sure if that was the idea that long term drilling was not the one answer to our energy crisis or if he was just against it in general.  So if he was against it then why now when his running mate is for it is he all of a sudden for it?  We need to be self sufficient on energy and I think drilling is not the single answer although he noted many more resources, so why are we not using them NOW!)

Actually he changed his mind on drilling before he choose a running mate. His change of mind came about when gas/oil prices skyrocketed and the majority of the people started complaining and saying it was past time to lift the ban on drilling. It is sometimes difficult to tell what a politicians personal opinion on a subject really is. McCain is a fine example of that since his "change of mind" is simply directed by the majority of the voters. That's not a bad thing though as that is the way it is supposed to work.

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I also am not sure how you can possibly be against abortion but for embryonic stem cell research?  And let me tell you I think this race should from a christian perspective be about morality...if you look mostly at what is wrong with this world today MORALITY will smack you right in the face!  Although, I think the candidate should also be strong on healthcare issues, the iraq war etc...

This is one of the places that the list you linked to is not quite correct. It would be better understood to say that McCain supports stem cell research not embryonic stem cell research. There is a difference. I'm not a medical expert but I am an educator and as such I attempt to keep up on at least the basics. It has been reported that scientists have made tremendous steps in stem cell research that does not involve the use of aborted or dead babies. I am all for that as long as it does not require killing but does help to save lives and to make those lives more meaningful and healthy.

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The Iraq war well that opens up a huge can of worms huh?  We are there and I don't think we can just pack up and leave now...not only would it not be beneficial to the iraq people but very harmful to us as well.  Should we stay forever, of course not.  But it was noted that the iraq government has a surplus in their economy why ours is unbelievably in debt, to the point I don't want to even think about it.  And how long after we leave before things are volatile there again?

We are told in the Bible that Iraq will be a focal point in the end times so we know that in time there will eventually be a whole lot more turmoil there. Precisely when we still don't know but it will be inevitable. This does not mean that we should stop trying to do that which is right. In fact we should continue in attempting to stop tyrants and to bring peace in the world.

Healthcare. That is a very difficult subject. I am not for "universal" health care. The word universal brings about thoughts of everyone being placed all in the exact same type of health care. That thought runs into thoughts of socialism/communism which is pretty scary. I agree that our current health care system needs a lot of work. I'm one of those "older" people that you have mentioned that has to decide on food or medicines. Transportation to medical care is also a part of that concern. Democrats want us to be like a third world nation and have to rely on public transportation. That is just not realistic and would in fact place our health care availability to be the same as most third world nations. My being a Veteran I do have options that many others do not in some things but it requires my traveling long distances. My health does not permit long distance travel very often let alone public transportation and there are many that are worse off than I.



Title: Re: Why not Huckabee
Post by: itsmeagaingod on September 09, 2008, 03:53:19 PM
Democrats do seem to have the moral issues wrong...I signed as a democrat very young, one of those things that grandpa was a democrat, dad was a democrat, so daughter signed as democrat...from a financial standpoint i agree from a democratic perspective but morally from a republican...guess i should be as you are and put other.  My daughters boyfriend whom is our preachers son, served in iraq, and a overall great kid calls me a "demoncrat"...that's just wrong lol!  He's a completely different topic lol!

I think it is good to change your mind and listen to the voters and people of this country...just did not know where the switch came from.

as far as stem cell research goes i stand my ground exactly where you do...and the fact of the matter is more advances have come from adult stem cell research than any other.  Whether that be because of the legalities of embryonic stem cell research i am not sure.

I know the things going on in the middle east is prophesy...I have often wondered how we the USA plays into all this since we are not even mentioned in the bible.  Although i have read the left behind series, not sure how you feel on those, and although just a depiction of course they are set a large part in America.  Still baffles me how we play out in all this.

as far as healthcare goes I don't think that making one part of our government meet social demands makes us a socialist country on the verge of communism...what is social security, food stamps etc...  In fact alot of moral issues we believe in would be considered a social issue...abortion etc...  I work with a doctor that practiced in Canada who says that the hype that you have to wait a long time for surgeries etc... is not true, you may have to go to a different hospital etc... but you can get things done quickly.  I also worked with a nurse that worked in Canada as well and she had to have a gallbladder out and she did not have to wait but a few weeks...seeing how often times anymore that is a scheduled surgery after they get the gallbladder "cooled down" not a bad turnover time.  Doctors don't want it because god forbid they may not have three cars and two houses...they have to live within their means and still would live well.  As for family practice doctors they would probably make close to the same.  As far as the transportation goes those that don't have transportation have to rely on public transportation anyway.  I think it is absolutely absurd that you work all your life to get in a financial place where you can live after retirement and one bad blow and you could lose everything or you have to go to a nursing home and everything you own goes to them.  Or your young and one health crisis and there goes your home!   Noone should be penalized for getting old or sick...it's enevitalbe for us all.


Title: Re: Why not Huckabee
Post by: Soldier4Christ on September 09, 2008, 04:30:59 PM
Democrats do seem to have the moral issues wrong...I signed as a democrat very young, one of those things that grandpa was a democrat, dad was a democrat, so daughter signed as democrat...from a financial standpoint i agree from a democratic perspective but morally from a republican...guess i should be as you are and put other.  My daughters boyfriend whom is our preachers son, served in iraq, and a overall great kid calls me a "demoncrat"...that's just wrong lol!  He's a completely different topic lol!

"demoncrat"? I understand where that comes from and in some cases is quite fitting.

I was a registered democrat at one time also. At one time it was a fairly honorable political party but it has been invaded and taken over by radicals that support communism. Yes, I said radicals. They are the same people from the 60's that participated in riots that claimed any government was bad and now they are in the positions they are pushing for bigger more oppressive government.


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I know the things going on in the middle east is prophesy...I have often wondered how we the USA plays into all this since we are not even mentioned in the bible.  Although i have read the left behind series, not sure how you feel on those, and although just a depiction of course they are set a large part in America.  Still baffles me how we play out in all this.

This has baffled many and some even twist scriptures to place us in a bad role. America as we have known it will not be around. at least that is my belief. We will either be eradicated in some manner or change into something entirely different than what our role in the world has been. We see daily in the news of many that are trying to do just that ... either destroy us completely or to change us into something else.


Title: Re: Why not Huckabee
Post by: Brother Jerry on September 15, 2008, 09:27:26 AM
What if it was a Huckabee Palin ticket?
Wow that would have been something.