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Title: Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: Hanging on on January 02, 2004, 01:33:21 PM
I have a question about friendships in a marriage. I was wondering if there is a boundary to what you do with/for friends while married. Is it safe for a married person to be at a single friends house of the opposite sex? Or are they just asking for there to be trouble? Is there a time frame that they shouldn't be there(like after 10 pm or something)? Do these rules change at all if the marriage is on rocky ground?


Title: Re:Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: ebia on January 02, 2004, 03:34:09 PM
If you're likely to do something you shouldn't, don't put yourself in that position. Otherwise, fine.


Title: Re:Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: Symphony on January 02, 2004, 05:43:10 PM

ebia's seems to be a good rule of thumb... :)


Title: Re:Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: Psalm 119 on January 03, 2004, 12:27:05 AM
Hanging On,

The rule of thumb is to avoid all appearances of evil.

We know a dear Christian man, who was courting a woman, (both in their 30's and never married) she never came into his home, nor did he kiss her until their wedding day. This may seem "prudish" to some, but he did not want to put himself into a postion where he would sin against God.

As a general rule ,single men or women should not be hanging around married couples in a closed setting. And a single man should never be at a married woman's house when her husband is away, and vice versa. Nor should a pastor counsel a woman without the presence of another woman.

Here is a true story: Around 15 years ago, a pastor's wife was involved in a ministry that took her out of town on occasion. She would often be accompanied by a young single man that her and her husband were "discipling".Her husband (the pastor) encouraged this young man to look after his wife during these ministry events. Well he looked after her......she became pregnant with his baby. I guess the marriage was eventually restored. But the sad irony of the situation was that the pastor and his wife had been approached about this young man and the involvement with his wife. All counsel fell on deaf ears.

Use wise judgement, and avoid situations that would cause you to sin.

Psalm 119



Title: Re:Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: Whitehorse on January 03, 2004, 01:02:22 AM
Good posts. I agree. Psalm 119, wow-that poor pastor!


Title: Re:Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: Coyote on January 03, 2004, 11:38:20 AM
My wife and I had dealings with this when we first got married, 10 yrs ago. Since we were both young, and newlyweds the transition from single to married life was slow. We finally made a promise to each other that we would not let the opposite sex into our house without the both of us being there. We did amend that to a 5 min window if they wanted to wait, but just inside the door. Before we established those rules, I had almost clobbered a dear friend of mine. He would stop by while I was out, and chat with my wife. I know nothing ever happened, but it just had the perception of being extremely wrong. I finally had enough one evening when I came home from work and he was there. Needless to say my temper got away from me.

All my friends and her friends now call before the stop over to make sure we are home. Hopefully it is out of respect for us, and not the fact I answer the door with my sidearm ready. :)


Title: Re:Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: Symphony on January 03, 2004, 11:38:30 AM
And a single man should never be at a married woman's house when her husband is away, and vice versa


Hm.  Or, a married man either, for that matter?  That is, neither a married man, nor a single man, should be at a married woman's house when her husband is away, and vice versa?

Whew, it sure gets complicated.  It was much easier when we were just kids.  I think that was the point of Peter Pan--he didn't want to grow up.   Sapphire here comments on it under Movies.



Anyway, here's one:  

You're a man, rainy bad weather, alone, driving highway.  Pedestrian, side of road walking, female, no head covering.

Whether you're single or married, what do you do?  

Drive on, ignore her?





Title: Re:Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: Whitehorse on January 03, 2004, 07:50:20 PM
That is a stickler. But if she's wise, she wouldn't accept a ride from a strange man even if offered. But to be the one to offer it? I think it's okay unless the guy has a weakness he's aware of. In this case, it's an act of mercy and there is no repeated exposure. But he should know what he's going to do if she does anything wierd. I guess it isn't entirely possible that women can be crazies, too.


Title: Re:Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: sincereheart on January 03, 2004, 08:12:32 PM
The rule of thumb is to avoid all appearances of evil.

I have to agree with Psalm119.  :)

You're a man, rainy bad weather, alone, driving highway.  Pedestrian, side of road walking, female, no head covering.

Whether you're single or married, what do you do?  

Drive on, ignore her?


Pull up beside her and ask her if she needs you to call someone for her. I can't imagine any woman getting into the car of a man she doesn't know, so not offering her a ride wouldn't seem ungentlemanly...


Title: Re:Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: Whitehorse on January 04, 2004, 05:05:01 PM
Good point.

Psalm 119, what did they do with the baby???


Title: Re:Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: Symphony on January 04, 2004, 05:06:09 PM
Maybe my point here is sometimes the guy is as vulnerable as the lady?

Not so much phsysically, but ramification-wise, or reputation-wise.

If you pick up a female, for whatever reason, can't she make any accusation she wants--even if its not a legal one.  It won't even matter if you're married or not, either way just the assistance could be interpreted in any number of ways?

In this kind of situation, it seems virtually a slamdunk you're going to have to do the bare minimum; even sincereheart's could be misinterpreted.

But if I'm a Christian, what am I doing ignoring or abandoning someone obviously in need?

Of course, if I'm married, it could be even further complicated, understandably.



Title: Re:Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: Hanging on on January 04, 2004, 06:50:33 PM
I hear about a married women/man shouldn't have a single man/women in there home while there spouse is again. What about a married woman/man going to a single persons house of the opposite sex?


Title: Re:Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: Hanging on on January 04, 2004, 06:51:50 PM
I hear about a married women/man shouldn't have a single man/women in there home while there spouse is away. What about a married woman/man going to a single persons house of the opposite sex?


Title: Re:Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: ebia on January 04, 2004, 07:09:26 PM
Sheesh, you guys don't have a very high opinion of anyone's ability to resist temptation, do you?

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I hear about a married women/man shouldn't have a single man/women in there home while there spouse is again. What about a married woman/man going to a single persons house of the opposite sex?
Why stop there?  Shouldn't you "ban" any person being alone with anyone of the opposite sex unless they are married to each other?

Maybe you should also stop going to the shops on your own in case you are tempted to shoplift.

 ::)


Title: Re:Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: Symphony on January 04, 2004, 10:02:00 PM


That's not a very good comparison, ebia.  Products on a market shelf can't scream back at you and accuse you of impropriety.

    ;D


Title: Re:Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: ebia on January 04, 2004, 11:23:54 PM


That's not a very good comparison, ebia.  Products on a market shelf can't scream back at you and accuse you of impropriety.

    ;D
For the moment. 8)


Title: Re:Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: Allinall on January 05, 2004, 11:44:51 AM
I think a key to answering this is:

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Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

James 4:17

There are always going to be situations that are difficult to work around.  Personally, I can talk to two women other than my wife, alone, without feeling awkward.  Mind you, I'm talking about being in the church auditorium, not somewhere potentially secluded.  For me to be in such a situation would be wrong.  I don't feel that to be right.  But if I find a woman stranded on the highway in the middle of a blizzard and I can help by picking her up and taking her to a phone, then I don't feel I'd be right.  Just a thought... :)


Title: Re:Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: Symphony on January 06, 2004, 02:16:46 AM

Yep, All, I'd just have to help the woman out, and take it as it comes.

Circumstances would matter.  It'd be a lot more difficult in drastic circumstances to accuse someone.  Good point.  Thank you.


Title: Re:Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: Allinall on January 06, 2004, 10:46:49 AM
De nada!   :)


Title: Re: Friendship boundaries in a marriage
Post by: airIam2worship on May 14, 2006, 04:11:57 AM
Hello Hanging on, welcome back to CU, it has been a long time since your last visit, I hope you will continue to visit and fellowship with us.

Hanging on, I don't know if you got the answer to your question, but my opinion is this, while you may be friends with both the husband and the wife, it is always safe for a Christian to keep him or her self above reproach. While your honor and integrity may be very strong, some people ge a great deal of pleasure about spreading lies and rumors, so my advice in a situation where you are found to be alone in the company of a married person with out the spouse being around is to stay away from it all together.

In some countries men do not even speak to the wife of a man instead the speak to the husband and have the husband relay messages, while in the US those practices seem unnatural to us each culture has their own way of handleing this type of situation.
My opinion is to avoid being alone in the company of a married person of the opposite sex altogether that way rumors will not have a foundation to be started.

Your friend and sister in Chris.
Maria