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Title: Walk the Talk?
Post by: Symphony on December 11, 2003, 08:16:46 PM

Do you think it's possible to communicate the Gospel without ever saying it, or speaking it?


Title: Re:Walk the Talk?
Post by: Forrest on December 11, 2003, 09:10:20 PM

Do you think it's possible to communicate the Gospel without ever saying it, or speaking it?

     There have been many that claim Faith in Christ yet show otherwise, but you can show your faith by your works.
    In another words "Walk the Walk, and Talk the Talk.

      JAS 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

JAS 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

JAS 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also

MT 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

MT 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

PHIL 1:11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.


Title: Re:Walk the Talk?
Post by: ollie on December 11, 2003, 09:22:02 PM

Do you think it's possible to communicate the Gospel without ever saying it, or speaking it?

The Gideons, and The Salvation Army communicate the gospel with the Bible. The Gideons put them in hotel/motel rooms. The Salvation Army gives them out at bus, train stations and airports and other locations of mass people assemblies.

It is possible to communicate the gospel with the written word being read.  


Title: Re:Walk the Talk?
Post by: Whitehorse on December 12, 2003, 12:52:34 AM

Do you think it's possible to communicate the Gospel without ever saying it, or speaking it?

Speaking from someone who is always myself no matter who I'm talking to or where I am, I'd say for me it's impossible to live and not talk about it. How on earth can you live Christ, love Christ, but never talk about Him? It just comes right out. You can't *not* say anything about Him.

Plus-a good life may attract attention, but it can't get others into heaven. If we've been freely given, we must freely give. I've never once been able to keep my mouth shut about Jesus Christ. Impossible.


Title: Re:Walk the Talk?
Post by: Willowbirch on December 12, 2003, 11:45:53 AM
There are a lot of good posts here! Thanks!


Title: Re:Walk the Talk?
Post by: Whitehorse on December 15, 2003, 08:23:41 PM
We're still waiting for your take, Symphony!  :)


Title: Re:Walk the Talk?
Post by: Raphu on December 16, 2003, 11:21:04 AM
Well, I have to hang my head in shame, sometimes, when I see the lip service done in the Lord's name without the significant works that should follow such faith as we claim. Our lives are letters written to the world and read by all men. They see our walk and what is supposed to be our love one for another.

2 Corinthians 3:2  Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
3  Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.



Title: Re:Walk the Talk?
Post by: Allinall on December 17, 2003, 01:09:01 AM
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Do you think it's possible to communicate the Gospel without ever saying it, or speaking it?

I'm reminded of what the Apostle Peter said in 1 Peter 3:15-17...

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but in your hearts regard Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect, having a good conscience, so that, when you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ may be put to shame. For it is better to suffer for doing good, if that should be God's will, than for doing evil.

Is there a way to display the gospel apart from speaking?  Yes.  It's called Christlikeness.  A believer can spew out the gospel without having a real Christlike life, but a believer who is Christlike, having been and continuing to be conformed into that image, will have a reason when asked, "Why are you different."  It's the believer that stands out that has such a witness, not the believer that stands up.  I've heard the best quote for this very thing that I've shared elsewhere:

Your walk talks and your talk talks, but your walk will talk louder than you talk will talk.[/b]


Title: Walk the Talk?
Post by: Brother Love on December 17, 2003, 05:11:53 AM

Do you think it's possible to communicate the Gospel without ever saying it, or speaking it?

     There have been many that claim Faith in Christ yet show otherwise, but you can show your faith by your works.
    In another words "Walk the Walk, and Talk the Talk.

      JAS 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

JAS 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

JAS 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also

MT 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

MT 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

PHIL 1:11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.


JW's & Mormons do all the above, I guess that makes them Christians :) Is that right Forrest?

Brother Love :)


Title: Re:Walk the Talk?
Post by: Forrest on December 17, 2003, 08:09:02 AM
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JW's & Mormons do all the above, I guess that makes them Christians  Is that right Forrest?

Brother Love  

      BL Mormons I don't know very well, but I've been told by a few that when it comes between the Bible, and the Book of Mormon they are to follow the Book of Mormon. As to can there be some among them that are truly saved, yes some have been led atsray into that cult.

        As to Jehovah's Wittness,                          
Bible is God's Word and is truth
Bible is more reliable than tradition
God's name is Jehovah
Christ is God's Son and is inferior to Him
Christ was first of God's creations
Christ died on a stake, not a cross
Christ's human life was paid as a ransom for obedient humans
Christ's one sacrifice was sufficient
Christ was raised from the dead as an immortal spirit person
Christ's presence is in spirit
We are now in the 'time of the end'
Kingdom under Christ will rule earth in righteousness and peace
Kingdom will bring ideal living conditions to earth
Earth will never be destroyed or depopulated
God will eliminate present system of things in the battle at Har-Magedon
Wicked will be eternally destroyed
People God approves will receive everlasting life
There is only one road to life
Human death is due to Adam's sin
The human soul ceases to exist at death
Hell is mankind's common grave
Hope for dead is resurrection
Adamic death will cease
Only a little flock of 144,000 go to heaven and rule with Christ
The 144,000 are born again as spiritual sons of God
New covenant is made with spiritual Israel
Christ's congregation is built upon himself
Prayers are to be directed only to Jehovah through Christ
Images should not be used in worship
Spiritism must be shunned
Satan is invisible ruler of world
A Christian ought to have no part in interfaith movements
A Christian should keep separate from world
Obey human laws that do not conflict with God's laws
Taking blood into body through mouth or veins violates God's laws
Bible's laws on morals must be obeyed
Sabbath observance was given only to Israel and ended with Mosaic Law
A clergy class and special titles are improper
Man did not evolve but was created
Christ set example that must be followed in serving God
Baptism by complete immersion symbolizes dedication
Christians gladly give public testimony to Scriptural truth

   Here are just some of their Believes, much does follow true Christian Believes, but how much poisen does it take to kill, very little.
      Christ is God's Son and is inferior to Him
Christ was first of God's creations
Christ died on a stake, not a cross
Christ's human life was paid as a ransom for obedient humans
Christ was raised from the dead as an immortal spirit person
 
    They claim that Jesus is Inferior to GOD, Created by GOD
     That Jesus Died for Obedient Humans
     They claim Jesus was raised as an immortal spirit person, thus He was not Bodily raised His human body was destroyed.
     Can there be truly saved ones that were led astray among them- yes, I know for a fact that there is. Are Jehovah Wittness's Christian - no way!
     I still stand by my post, I have wittnessed to many that rejected Christ do to the fact of other Christians behavior we may not think that the unsaved don't watch but they do, ones behavior has more effect than ones words, but it all is nill unless God draws them.
                                     


Title: Re:Walk the Talk?
Post by: Symphony on December 17, 2003, 06:58:31 PM

Hmmm...   definitely need to come back to this.  


Title: Re:Walk the Talk?
Post by: Symphony on December 20, 2003, 12:49:46 AM

Yes, there are some definitely good posts here.

Thank you, Forrest.  A good heads up on Jehovah's Witnesses.

When Satan tempts Jesus there in the wilderness, doesn't Jesus reply, "It is written, 'Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God'"?

Well, if JWs don't believe Jesus is God, I wonder how they deal with that nice little tidbit.   ;D

Hmm, anyway...

always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you

Yes, that's a good one here, All.

Welp, everyone's certainly got a good point here, that's for sure.

Whitehorse can't help but to speak.

Raphu that our lives are letters read by all men.

My thinking:  We have to be prepared to speak of Jesus, at all times.

Unfortuntely, I've put that in a pejorative sense:  "...have to".

Ideally, it should be, "...get to..."

We should be exclaiming like small children on what we just discovered.  We can hardly wait to tell.

"Jesus Christ."