Title: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: bronzesnake on December 04, 2007, 03:49:18 AM Many people wonder about whether God created "everything" billions of years ago, or only six thousand years ago.
I believe in a literal understanding of the scriptures, and therefore I believe God created earth and life six thousand yeas ago. So what about the dinosaurs right? If man and dinosaurs co-existed, there should be proof right? Right! And there is! First of all, dinosaurs are described in the Bible. But there's also excellent proof outside the scriptures, which evolutionists have been working extreemly hard for many years to keep burried. Have a look here my friends, and an astonishing collection of over 33,000 ceramic figurines of dinosaurs which are dated by evolution labs at from 1,400 to 4,500 B.C!!! This will amaze you I promise! http://www.bible.ca/tracks/tracks-acambaro.htm#photo (http://www.bible.ca/tracks/tracks-acambaro.htm#photo) John Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: Soldier4Christ on December 04, 2007, 10:52:52 AM There is nothing here to debate, brother. The evidence is overwhelming that God created all living creatures when He said He did not millions of years ago. Those that try to teach otherwise are doing nothing less than calling God a liar. Man was created in the beginning he did not evolve from some lower life form and neither did any other of His creation.
Mat 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, Gen 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: Shammu on December 04, 2007, 06:06:34 PM AMEN to both of y'all!!
Great to see y'all on the forum bro John!! :D :D :D Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: nChrist on December 06, 2007, 02:46:28 AM Hello Bronzesnake,
Brother John, the link you gave us is great. I've been reading in numerous places that proof for the theory of evolution being absolute garbage has been covered up for many years. It would simply be to much to bear for all of those intellectual types to announce and admit that the theory of evolution was never anything more than a giant hoax. Many big whigs have made fortunes in their so-called scientific careers in perpetuating the Darwin Hoax. Let's call them Darwin's con-men, but they are well respected in the scientific community and represent the mainstream. It stands to reason that they would be desperate to hang onto their status, dignity, and huge pay checks at any price. GOD will reveal the only TRUTH about CREATION again one day, and mankind will accept what GOD says this time. Once again, GOD'S WORD is absolute TRUTH, and it will endure forever. GOD has already told us what HE wants us to know about HIS Creation, and we can read most of it in Genesis 1 and part of 2. It's short, to the point, and absolute facts from the CREATOR HIMSELF. Brother John, I would love to watch the evolutionists be unmasked as con-men, but we will probably be HOME in HEAVEN at that time and will have better things to think about. Regardless, I love to see facts that prove the Bible to be the ultimate TRUTH. Thanks Brother! Love In Christ, Tom P.S. If I remember correctly, you made the graphic below for me and I appreciate it. It's one of my favorite graphics to use at this time of the year. It expresses my true feelings about JESUS CHRIST every day. Every day is SON-DAY! (http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i160/tlr10/speci/Speci030.gif) Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: bronzesnake on December 07, 2007, 12:51:18 AM There is nothing here to debate, brother. The evidence is overwhelming that God created all living creatures when He said He did not millions of years ago. Those that try to teach otherwise are doing nothing less than calling God a liar. Man was created in the beginning he did not evolve from some lower life form and neither did any other of His creation. Mat 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, Gen 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. Amen brother Roger! In order to fall for evolution I would have to call God a liar! That simply is never going to happen! John Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: bronzesnake on December 07, 2007, 12:52:16 AM AMEN to both of y'all!! Great to see y'all on the forum bro John!! :D :D :D It's extreemly heart warming and wonderfull to be back here with my family again! John Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: bronzesnake on December 07, 2007, 12:59:31 AM Hello Bronzesnake, Brother John, the link you gave us is great. I've been reading in numerous places that proof for the theory of evolution being absolute garbage has been covered up for many years. It would simply be to much to bear for all of those intellectual types to announce and admit that the theory of evolution was never anything more than a giant hoax. Many big whigs have made fortunes in their so-called scientific careers in perpetuating the Darwin Hoax. Let's call them Darwin's con-men, but they are well respected in the scientific community and represent the mainstream. It stands to reason that they would be desperate to hang onto their status, dignity, and huge pay checks at any price. GOD will reveal the only TRUTH about CREATION again one day, and mankind will accept what GOD says this time. Once again, GOD'S WORD is absolute TRUTH, and it will endure forever. GOD has already told us what HE wants us to know about HIS Creation, and we can read most of it in Genesis 1 and part of 2. It's short, to the point, and absolute facts from the CREATOR HIMSELF. Brother John, I would love to watch the evolutionists be unmasked as con-men, but we will probably be HOME in HEAVEN at that time and will have better things to think about. Regardless, I love to see facts that prove the Bible to be the ultimate TRUTH. Thanks Brother! Love In Christ, Tom P.S. If I remember correctly, you made the graphic below for me and I appreciate it. It's one of my favorite graphics to use at this time of the year. It expresses my true feelings about JESUS CHRIST every day. Every day is SON-DAY! (http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i160/tlr10/speci/Speci030.gif) Hello Tom! I love reading through that web site. especially when we see the dates in the thousands of years ascribed to these figures coming from evolutionists very best labs!! ;D It is extremely revealing that after these labs discovered the samples were pieces taken from these dinosaur figures, they made an awkward and embarrassing feeble attempt to discredit their own labs work!! This kind of tampering really reveals the kind of people in charge of brainwashing our children in the schools my friends. Dishonest, and desperate to "prove" God is not real regardless of whether they have to discredit their own work or not! If they are willing to destroy their own work, what do they do when science actually corroborates creation and not evolution? Again, it feels like early Christmas being home among my family here. John Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: bronzesnake on December 07, 2007, 01:10:17 AM Quote P.S. If I remember correctly, you made the graphic below for me and I appreciate it. It's one of my favorite graphics to use at this time of the year. It expresses my true feelings about JESUS CHRIST every day. Every day is SON-DAY! yes, I remember that graphic tom. Didn't I also send you the program files so you could make up your own as well? I still have them if anyone wants the program files. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/bronzesnake/Christian/holynight.gif?t=1197007764) Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: HisDaughter on December 08, 2007, 10:40:29 AM Great link! Thanks. I'm sending on to family and friends to use as teaching tool.
Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: nChrist on December 09, 2007, 09:35:54 PM yes, I remember that graphic tom. Didn't I also send you the program files so you could make up your own as well? I still have them if anyone wants the program files. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/bronzesnake/Christian/holynight.gif?t=1197007764) Hello Brother John, First, please know that I haven't lost my mind, and I think that I made a good decision for myself. ;D I said goodbye to Windows and Bill Gates forever. I'm using Linux Ubuntu, and I'm really liking it. However, that does mean that I have to learn a lot of new programs, including the ones for graphics. I'm trying to learn how to use Gimp right now, and I think it will be worth learning. It's a large and sophisticated program that does just about every graphic function you can think of. I've done about 10 new graphics, but they are on the beginner side. I hope to become more proficient with Gimp soon. Canning Windows was one of those things that built up over a period of time, and I finally got tired of keeping Windows up while Microsoft was trying to dictate and spy. I'm positive that my last set of big problems with Windows were from updates. I backed up all of my personal files that could be converted or used in Linux formats and wiped the drives. I still miss a few things from time to time, but Linux has outstanding choices for everything I need to do. I chose Linux Ubuntu because it's easy to learn and switch to. I also changed Internet Service Providers and finally have a fast connection. I'm working on a new web page now and hope to have something going soon. When I tell folks that I switched completely to Linux Ubuntu, some folks think that I lost my mind. I'll just say that I'm very happy with my decision, and I'm working with some outstanding Linux programs that are ALL completely free with no strings attached. I must add that e-Sword works perfectly on Linux, and so does Firefox and Thunderbird. So, overall, I'd say that I stopped Bill Gates from causing me to lose my mind. ;D Brother John, I did write about part of the change over in the "Computer and Software" area. I'll just say that old dogs can learn new tricks, and the experience has been positive. It will be some time before I can make the more complicated graphics, but I feel that I've made some progress. Love In Christ, Tom (http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i160/tlr10/mine/mine046.jpg) Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: Shammu on December 11, 2007, 12:31:12 PM World's largest dino bones found near Scott Base
Fossil remains found near New Zealand's Antarctic Scott Base have been identified as the largest creature to ever walk the Earth. The four to six tonne, seven to eight metre long dinosaur has been dug out of rock and ice at the base of Mt Kirkpatrick near the Beardmore Glacier, 700kms south of Scott Base and in New Zealand's Ross Dependency, Labelled "Glacialisaurus hammeri" it lived about 190 million years ago. (<---- Wrong dating) A statement out today from Chicago's Field Museum says the massive plant-eating primitive sauropodomorph was a new genus and species. A description of the new monster has been published in the journal Acta Palaeontologica Polonica and is based on partial foot, leg and ankle bones. "The fossils were painstakingly removed from the ice and rock using jackhammers, rock saws and chisels under extremely difficult conditions over the course of two field seasons," said Nathan Smith, a graduate student at The Field Museum. "They are important because they help to establish that primitive sauropodomorph dinosaurs were more broadly distributed than previously thought, and that they coexisted with their cousins, the true sauropods." The find was named after Dr. William Hammer, a professor at Augustana College in the US who led the two field trips to Antarctica that uncovered the fossils. The discovery shows that sauropodomorphs were widely distributed in the Early Jurassic-not only in China, South Africa, South America and North America, but also in Antarctica. "This was probably due to the fact that major connections between the continents still existed at that time, and because climates were more equitable across latitudes than they are today," Smith said. World's largest dino bones found near Scott Base (http://www.stuff.co.nz/print/4320225a12.html) Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: Soldier4Christ on December 11, 2007, 01:01:04 PM Quote and that they coexisted with their cousins As did all life on earth. Quote "This was probably due to the fact that major connections between the continents still existed at that time, and because climates were more equitable across latitudes than they are today," Smith said. All of which we see in the Bible. The Bible tells us of the separating of the land into continents and islands, the formation of mountains, and valleys. It also tells us of climate around the world, when it was the same and when the ice and snow began. Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: nChrist on December 11, 2007, 01:44:18 PM Brothers and Sisters,
It isn't amazing at all that the Bible already contains the whole TRUTH. After all, it is GOD'S WORD - THE CREATOR - and HE told us what HE wanted us to know about HIS Creation. The Holy Bible is extremely easy to read and understand, and I don't need any scientific degrees to understand what THE CREATOR HIMSELF told us. Love In Christ, Tom HIS NAME IS JESUS! Luke 2:7-14 NASB And she gave birth to her firstborn son; and she wrapped Him in cloths, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn. In the same region there were some shepherds staying out in the fields and keeping watch over their flock by night. And an angel of the Lord suddenly stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them; and they were terribly frightened. But the angel said to them, "Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of great joy which will be for all the people; for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. "This will be a sign for you: you will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger." And suddenly there appeared with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying, "Glory to God in the highest, And on earth peace among men with whom He is pleased." (http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i160/tlr10/mine/mine035.jpg) (http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i160/tlr10/speci/Speci030.gif) (http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i160/tlr10/speci/Speci066.gif) Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: bronzesnake on December 15, 2007, 08:05:59 PM Hey Tom.
I'm am extremely ignorant in relations to windows vs other platforms, so I will trust you when you tell me it was worth it! I know how frustrating spyware is, and it seems like it doesn't matter how much spybot or Norton protection you have, this crap still gets through. Constantly having to update etc, is a real pain. Perhaps one day I will make the leap myself and get an Apple! :) John Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: bronzesnake on December 15, 2007, 08:17:19 PM Hi D.W.
Interesting article. I see you correctly pointed out the wrong dates. I have done some fairly extensive study on exactly how the God deniers, and confused come up with such ridiculous dates, and you would be amazed at the pure deceit involved. All these dates are based on HUGEANTIC assumptions, and corroborated by circular reasoning. I am not simply making bold statements here, this can be scientifically proven to be factual. Next time someone tells you about any ages in millions or billions or heck, even gazillions, and tells you it is "scientifically proven" just ask them how any scientist could ever know the geophysical starting compositions, and then how they could possibly know whether conditions on earth and space either added or extracted any daughter or parent isotopes. I could go into some good detail, but I would be preaching to the converted here! ;D (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/bronzesnake/Misc/merrychristmasfriends.gif?t=1197767764) Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: HisDaughter on December 15, 2007, 09:06:32 PM All of which we see in the Bible. The Bible tells us of the separating of the land into continents and islands, the formation of mountains, and valleys. It also tells us of climate around the world, when it was the same and when the ice and snow began. Where Pasta Roga? I want to read it. Might make a good Bible study? Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: Soldier4Christ on December 15, 2007, 09:19:36 PM I will have to dig out my notes but it is primarily in the book of Job.
Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: workinprogress on December 15, 2007, 11:49:55 PM Where Pasta Roga? I want to read it. Might make a good Bible study? I am not well versed in scripture, but yes I believe it is in Job that covers man and dinosaurs living together at the same time. We brought up this subject once in Men's Bible study and out Pastor/leader took us to Job, especially the last few chapters (Job 40:15 KJV) Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. (Job 40:16 KJV) Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. (Job 40:17 KJV) He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. (Job 40:18 KJV) His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron. (Job 40:19 KJV) He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him. Also I think Ecclesiastes tells us how God set up our climate, the way we know it now. (Ecc 1:5 KJV) The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose. (Ecc 1:6 KJV) The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits. (Ecc 1:7 KJV) All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again. Of coarse Genesis 1:1 is God telling us just how and why. In Chrisian love Dave Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: HisDaughter on December 16, 2007, 12:11:55 AM I will have to dig out my notes but it is primarily in the book of Job. Well that explains it. As hard and as many times as I've tried, I have not been able to get through that book! Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: HisDaughter on December 16, 2007, 12:23:24 AM I am not well versed in scripture, but yes I believe it is in Job that covers man and dinosaurs living together at the same time. We brought up this subject once in Men's Bible study and out Pastor/leader took us to Job, especially the last few chapters (Job 40:15 KJV) Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. (Job 40:16 KJV) Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. (Job 40:17 KJV) He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. (Job 40:18 KJV) His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron. (Job 40:19 KJV) He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him. Also I think Ecclesiastes tells us how God set up our climate, the way we know it now. (Ecc 1:5 KJV) The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose. (Ecc 1:6 KJV) The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits. (Ecc 1:7 KJV) All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again. Of coarse Genesis 1:1 is God telling us just how and why. In Chrisian love Dave Very cool. Thanks Dave! Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: Soldier4Christ on December 16, 2007, 12:47:36 AM Well that explains it. As hard and as many times as I've tried, I have not been able to get through that book! It is a difficult book to study. It is filled with parables, euphemisms, similies and a lot of discouraging situations hitting one man. Yet it is worthwhile taking the time and effort to study it for there are many wonderful lessons and information to be had from it. Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: HisDaughter on December 16, 2007, 12:50:31 AM It is a difficult book to study. It is filled with parables, euphemisms, similies and a lot of discouraging situations hitting one man. Yet it is worthwhile taking the time and effort to study it for there are many wonderful lessons and information to be had from it. Maybe I'll have to find one of those little study guides for Job and try it again. Title: Re: Dinosaurs and Man Co-Exist? Post by: bronzesnake on December 17, 2007, 10:07:58 AM Dinosaur & Human Footprints Together
How inconvenient these tracks of human footprints embedded right on top of dinosaur tracks are for evolutionists. :D There are loads of them, and there's even a case where a staunch evolutionists was so upset about these tracks that he actually destroyed some of the tracks with a crowbar! :o If these were all "fakes" as these desperate evolutionists would have us believe, then why would they have to destroy them? Here's a quote from the following link... "Prize Track +1 destroyed once for all time! This is one of three tracks featured at the 1989 Dayton, TN creation conference that was destroyed the next day. On August 12, 1989 Dr. Don Patton spoke at a creation conference in Dayton, TN. He presented compelling evidence that both human and dinosaur tracks were present at the Taylor Trail, including the above pictures. Two well known evolutionists were present and at least one was conspicuously disturbed by this presentation. Both flew to Dallas the next morning and went immediately to the Paluxy River. It is reliably reported that they were in the river that afternoon with an "iron bar." Three days before they were in the river the footprint was observed looking like the picture above, right. Three days after they were in the river, it was observed looking like the picture below, right. (Clear photography was not possible till the water went down several months later, when this photograph was taken.)" See the evidence here... http://www.bible.ca/tracks/taylor-trail.htm (http://www.bible.ca/tracks/taylor-trail.htm) This link provides a comprehensive scientific analysis of the tracks whicg evolutionists are conspicuously dead silent about! Have a look my friends... http://www.bible.ca/tracks/tracks.htm (http://www.bible.ca/tracks/tracks.htm) http://www.bible.ca/tracks/turnage-patton-trail.htm (http://www.bible.ca/tracks/turnage-patton-trail.htm) Don't let any God deniers tell you dinosaurs and humans never co-existed. God tells us different, so why should we take fallible man's understanding/beliefs over His? Dinosaur Art From Ancient Tombs In Peru http://www.bible.ca/tracks/peru-tomb-art.htm (http://www.bible.ca/tracks/peru-tomb-art.htm) Dinosaur Art By Native Americans (Petroglyphs) http://www.bible.ca/tracks/native-american-dino-art.htm (http://www.bible.ca/tracks/native-american-dino-art.htm) Dinosaurs in ancient Cambodian temple http://www.bible.ca/tracks/tracks-cambodia.htm (http://www.bible.ca/tracks/tracks-cambodia.htm) Yes, there is more to come! :D John |