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Title: Beethoven
Post by: Tibby on November 23, 2003, 04:40:32 PM
This is for all your classical Music fans out there: Is Beethoven Overrated?


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Sapphire W34P0N on November 24, 2003, 08:25:59 PM
Beethoven is a genious.


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Forrest on November 25, 2003, 12:37:25 AM
     Lets see 3 votes SW. says
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Beethoven is a genious.

    Tibby did not say how he voted, but I gess you voted yes

   I can't say I'm a classical fan but much of Beethoven is very good if not one of the best


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Willowbirch on November 25, 2003, 06:58:59 AM
Beethoven is a genious.
Ditto, Sapphire - although my tastes seem to center more on Russian/slavonic dances, and I love Handel's Messiah...


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Tibby on November 25, 2003, 04:19:10 PM
Yeah, I voted yes. Classical is just like every other music in the fact that fame is 50% who you know, 30% what you can market out, and 20% how good you are. Mainstream sucks, whether it is a Britnay Spears or Beethoven. I think Beethoven's music is average for classical. I'm a fan of the Anglican Church Music, Thomas Tallis, William Byrd, etc, the English Renaissance music, you know. Back in the day, WAY before U2, the brits knew about music! Gregorian Chants are great, too. I like a lot of classical, but Beethoven is just so... basic. Don't get wrong, he has some good stuff, but I think there are guys with 10 times his skill out there who arn't getting near the fame he is.

Handel's Messiah is good. My mom LOVE'S it. You and her should trade notes. Who do you think does the best version, Willow?


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Willowbirch on November 26, 2003, 07:37:15 AM
I'm not sure...my mom must've checked out every version that exists, but she says there's one she can't find anymore that is her absolute favorite.


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Tibby on November 26, 2003, 12:38:47 PM
Yeah? I need a present for my mom. She is one of those hard ot shop for people. If you think of a good version, let me know. You have to be careful with classical music. There are some pathetic sounding versions :(

What else do you like? Any Tallis? Any Bach? What am I saying, EVERYONE likes Bach! You can go to Ozfest, yell out "Bach Rulz!" and get a Moshpit to Overture No. 2. You can go to Grand old Orpy, put Buch to the fiddle, and be the biggest Show sence St. Johnny Cash! Everyone likes Bach! ;D


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Willowbirch on November 26, 2003, 06:46:33 PM
I like Johnny Cash, too.  ;D Not classical - but hey, he's older'n me, that's Classical enough.

One of my favorites is "The Sorceror's Apprentice"...also (and I can't think of the name at the moment!) there is a lovely earful of the seven days of Creation, contained on a single record... ;D


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Sapphire W34P0N on November 26, 2003, 07:01:31 PM
You can go to Ozfest, yell out "Bach Rulz!" and get a Moshpit to Overture No. 2.

Hmm...have you tried that? 'Cause that's the only way I'd believe you...


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Tibby on November 26, 2003, 07:51:19 PM
St. Johnny Cash, get it right! ;D

Sapph, get me the tickets, I'll give it a try. ;)


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Sapphire W34P0N on November 26, 2003, 09:39:23 PM
Ugh. Chances are I'd unconciously burn them before getting them in your hands. Ozzy makes me want to puke. And I sometimes do.


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Tibby on November 27, 2003, 12:12:28 AM
Ozzy, they walking anti-drug commercial:

This is you. *Shows clip of a normal human, relaxing in his front yard, watching his beautiful young wife had his son and daughter*

This is you on drugs *Ozzy walking through his house shouting 'SHARON' for 3 minutes straight*

Any questions.

There ya go. Anti-Drug commercials need to stop lying to the youth, and just show clips from 'The Osborne‘s.'

Anyways, the Ozfest is something you go to just to say you go to it. Lollapalooza is the event!


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Sapphire W34P0N on November 27, 2003, 05:15:13 PM
Ozzy walking through his house shouting 'SHARON' for 3 minutes straight

Not that you could tell. It would sound more like, "Shnafldh...SHLSAD73I!"


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Tibby on November 27, 2003, 10:16:29 PM
hahahahahahahahahaha


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Symphony on November 28, 2003, 08:45:15 AM

Beethoven's Concerto No. 3 in C minor is sweet, yeah.

Mozart is hard to beat.

Bach too.

Those three, in the classical world, are considered the top.


I like about any kind of music that is thoughtfully put together.  Some Country is really nice; pop, rock.  

It's hard to generalize.  For every pop song that hits the charts, look how many don't ever make it.  And when you listen to them, you realize why.  

Same with classical.  I'd guess that only 40 percent, if that much, of classical is worth a second listen.

Music that separates the men from the boys, is just not that common.

But listen to, say, Beethoven's Concerto No. 3, mentioned above, then switch over to your favorite pop song,  listen to it, then switch back again.

I venture to say you won't go back to pop again.




Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Tibby on November 28, 2003, 11:45:29 AM
Yeah, and Brittany Spears is thought of as the top of the Charts for Pop. Being “considered the top” isn’t enough. Being average isn’t enough. You have to be GOOD to be on my top 10 ;D HEY, that’s a concept! When we make charts, lets leave you the songs that SUCK ;D

Beethoven is better because he classical. That right there makes him one of the best! I would soon trade all of MTV for Beethoven. I’m not comparing Beethoven is music, I’m comparing him to CLASSICAL music. As far as Classical goes, he is pretty average, I think. He will do in a mad rush. Beethoven is the J-low of Classical Music. Good, but surely not the greatest.



Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Symphony on November 29, 2003, 04:55:00 PM

Yes, for me, it just depends on which piece.  His 3rd Concerto in C Minor is niiiiiiiiiice, MAN!  8)  

But his other pieces are a little too melodramatic for me.

Pound for pound, I'd probably gamble with Mozart, if I'm not allowed to choose.  If I'm allowed to choose, then I'm all over the map, of all kinds of music.

I don't follow Britany Spears, tho I DO know that if you rearrange the letters in her name, it spells Presbyterian!   ;D



Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Tibby on November 29, 2003, 06:58:17 PM
Yeah, I like all kinds of Music. But 90% of what I like is pre-1980. Lets face it, if music was a human, when what people do to music now a days would be worth of the death penalty. We are talking about Christian leaders the world over would call the Governor to tell him to stop because the Chair isn’t painful enough! Today, all you need is a pair of breast, a wardrobe form Hot Topic (grrr), or a  good marketing strategy and you could be a Star. No skill needed. They don’t even need good lyrics! A lot of people in my sister grade (She is a Junior in High School) don’t even know anything before 1995! They know Beethoven because TV talks about him sometimes. I was playing “Baby, I love your way” on Kazaa and they where like “Is that a new song? That is GREAT, dude, who plays that?” I mean, ok, I can understand not knowing Thomas Tallis. I can understand know knowing the title of the song “Greensleeves.” But “Baby, I love your way”? Peter Frampton? That song is still doing movie soundtracks!

I blame the decline in music on Sapphire and his people. ;D


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Sapphire W34P0N on November 29, 2003, 07:53:28 PM
Hey, to each his own, dude.


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Symphony on December 02, 2003, 04:53:57 PM
Good God!   ???

     >:(


 
I blame the decline in music on Sapphire and his people.  


 Yes.  Back to the jungles.   Hehe.    8)

   


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Symphony on December 02, 2003, 04:56:51 PM

Hmm, on second thought, I'm not just going to comment on it, I'm going to arrest Tibby(hehe), and send'm to the slammer for taking God's Name in vain...

How many days, bep?  We'll let bep or Admin be the judge here("Throw away the key, your Honor, throw away the key!!").


Hehe.   ;D ???


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Willowbirch on December 02, 2003, 06:12:15 PM

Hmm, on second thought, I'm not just going to comment on it, I'm going to arrest Tibby(hehe), and send'm to the slammer for taking God's Name in vain...

How many days, bep?  We'll let bep or Admin be the judge here("Throw away the key, your Honor, throw away the key!!").


Hehe.   ;D ???
Music to my ears.  8)

(I'll turn myself in to the CU prison on charges of making a really dumb joke.)


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: nChrist on December 02, 2003, 06:21:49 PM

Hmm, on second thought, I'm not just going to comment on it, I'm going to arrest Tibby(hehe), and send'm to the slammer for taking God's Name in vain...

How many days, bep?  We'll let bep or Admin be the judge here("Throw away the key, your Honor, throw away the key!!").


Hehe.   ;D ???

Oklahoma Howdy to Symphony,

I would guess that he didn't know, so the violation would not be intentional.

However, the CU Supreme Court has ruled that he be slapped with a 5 pound carp twice.

Love In Christ,
Tom


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Symphony on December 02, 2003, 10:53:14 PM

Point of order!  Point of order!  "I didn't mean to run the red light, Officer.  Honest!!"


    ::)


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Tibby on December 03, 2003, 12:08:26 AM
The CU constitution clearly state the Fish slapping is a right given solely to the Thibodeaux line, so HA!

You have to "read between the lines." SO you don't miss the spirit of it  ;)

To the main point, calling God Good is praise, not blasphemy, so :P

;D 8)

The Defence rests.


Title: Re:Beethoven
Post by: Willowbirch on December 08, 2003, 10:08:30 PM

The Defence rests.
And rests...and rests...any luck on Handel's Messiah?