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Title: "Unto thy seed have I given this land,......
Post by: Petro on November 15, 2003, 02:50:50 AM
Here is the end of the matter;



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And Abram took Sarai his wife, and Lot his brother's son, and all their substance that they had gathered, and the souls that they had gotten in Haran; and they went forth to go into the land of Canaan; and into the land of Canaan they came. Gen 12:5

And Esau hated Jacob because of the blessing wherewith his father blessed him: and Esau said in his heart, The days of mourning for my father are at hand; then will I slay my brother Jacob.
And these words of Esau her elder son were told to Rebekah: and she sent and called Jacob her younger son, and said unto him, Behold, thy brother Esau, as touching thee, doth comfort himself, purposing to kill thee.
Now therefore, my son, obey my voice; and arise, flee thou to Laban my brother to Haran;  (Gen 27:41-43)

And Jacob went out from Beersheba, and went toward Haran. (Gen 28:10)

And he lighted upon a certain place, and tarried there all night, because the sun was set; and he took of the stones of that place, and put them for his pillows, and lay down in that place to sleep.
And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.
And, behold, the LORD stood above it, and said, I am the LORD God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed;
And And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
And, behold, I am with thee, and will keep thee in all places whither thou goest, and will bring thee again into this land; for I will not leave thee, until I have done that which I have spoken to thee of.
And Jacob awaked out of his sleep, and he said, Surely the LORD is in this place; and I knew it not. (Gen 28:11-16)


Please refer to:

Gen 15
18  In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:


These verses settle this matter once, and for all, that is to say , it does to them that believe Gods Word;

Jacob was promised the land God had given to Abraham, for the nation of Israel (the natural seed), this made clear at ver 14 of Gen28, above;
 
Notice the verse carefully;

14  And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.

The natural seed (nation) has always been reffered to as the dust of the earth, as it pertains to Abrahams and/or Jacobs seed.

And note the next part of this verse, and see the extent of the land that is to be given to Jacob's seed, they shall spread abroad to the east, west, north and south from where verse 13,

"the land whereon thou liestto thee will I give it, and to thy seed;"

The land that was promised to The Nation of Israel has never been occupied to its fullest extent, they will when Messiah returns.


God Bless,

Petro


Title: Re:"Unto thy seed have I given this land,......
Post by: Petro on November 15, 2003, 02:55:52 AM
And in order to understand where it was that Jacob had this dream, where the Lord appeared unto him, one needs to refer to a MAP.

Blessings,

Petro


Title: Re:"Unto thy seed have I given this land,......
Post by: Reba on November 16, 2003, 10:24:36 PM

Some folks trust in maps and drawings of men some trust the Word of God.



Josh 21:43-45
43 And the LORD gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein.

44 And the LORD gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; the LORD delivered all their enemies into their hand.

45 There failed not ought of any good thing which the LORD had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass.
KJV