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Title: Secular society worships lucifer?
Post by: justjonny on November 10, 2003, 06:33:59 PM
http://www.savethemales.ca/000118.html

Lucifer is the Secret God of Secular Society
By Henry Makow Ph.D.

A 37-year-old Montreal historian, David Livingstone has written a stunning book that casts modern civilization in a new and troubling light.

In The Dying God, The Hidden History of Western Civilization, Livingstone shows that modern secular culture is really the product of an occult tradition that can be traced back to ancient Babylon through Freemasons, Rosicrucians, Templars, Plato and the Cabalists.

Essentially, this tradition adopted Lucifer as symbol of mankind's rebellion against God. It enshrined human reason, appetite and will as the ultimate standard of goodness and truth.

It usually defined freedom in terms of destroying the moral and social order. Freedom means dissipation not uplift and empowerment.

The occult's real aim is to empower the elite. Livingstone, who is not "religious" explains:

"The basic principle of most religions is to behave unto others as we wish to be treated....a principle of justice...[In contrast] the occultist...is lured by his vanity to seek a type of knowledge that sets him apart from others, maintaining that it is the preserve of the elite." (222)

Livingstone shows how this occult dogma was secretly adopted by key elites throughout history and was behind the English (1649), American (1776), French (1789) and Russian Revolutions (1917), three of which involved regicide.

Lucifer is the "bringer of light." The occult inspired the so-called Enlightenment, which defined modern culture. Francis Bacon was a Rosicrucian. Diderot, Rousseau, Voltaire, and Newton were all Freemasons. Fifty of the 56 signatories of the US Declaration of Independence and most U.S. Presidents were Masons. So were Stalin, Roosevelt and Churchill. The plan of the city of Washington was designed by a Mason in the shape of a pentagram, the symbol of Lucifer.

The scientific revolution is also rooted in the occult as magic, i.e. the manipulation of nature.

The significance of Livingstone's lucid, well-documented book is enormous. A dominant segment of our leaders secretly serve Lucifer; their sinister and corrupt influence is evident everywhere.

Secularism is as much a religion as Christianity. The "separation of church and state" is a stratagem to enshrine Lucifer as the god of the modern world. Masonic secularism's goal is to destroy genuine religions like Christianity and Islam.

Secular people can be moral when they follow their conscience, which is God's voice. But they are more likely to stray if they don't believe that the good is part of a real moral order.

Reason divorced from an absolute morality (God) can be used to justify anything, including mayhem and tyranny. The goal of the new world order is to divert humanity from God's Plan and enslave us to a vicious Satanic elite.

Read what Svali, an Illuminati defector wrote about the Illuminati, a superwealthy group of Luciferians who plan a world police state:

"The Illuminati is a group that practices a form of faith known as "enlightenment". It is Luciferian, and they teach their followers that their roots go back to the ancient mystery religions of Babylon, Egypt, and Celtic druidism. They have taken what they consider the "best" of each, the foundational practices, and joined them together into a strongly occult discipline. Many groups at the local level worship ancient deities such as "El", "Baal", and "Ashtarte", as well as "Isis and Osiris" and "Set".... I do know that these people teach and practice evil."

Historians are paid to suppress this truth. David Livingstone's The Dying God uncovers it. In a just world, this brilliant historian would be celebrated. Instead, he earns his living making furniture.


Title: Re:Secular society worships lucifer?
Post by: justjonny on November 10, 2003, 06:35:35 PM
HOW LUCIFER IS WORSHIPPED

Millions of people do not pay homage to Lucifer at a weekly service. Priests in red gowns do not preach Satanism from the pulpit. Lucifer cannot declare himself openly. He wages an undeclared covert war for our souls.

Lucifer's servants sit in expansive offices, ride in limousines and appear on TV. They are our political and cultural leaders, many of whom are ambitious dupes.

Lucifer's sermons are found in many American music videos, video games, television and films.

For example, Quentin Tarantino's "Kill Bill" was the highest grossing film in America this weekend. This film is Satanic fetishism dressed up as courageous, inventive entertainment.

In the first scene, a flashback, a blood-scared, bound and presumably naked woman played by Uma Thurman says, "It's your baby" before a gunshot explodes in our ears.

Then, in the present, the scene shifts to an idyllic suburban bungalow with sandbox and swing in the front yard. A young Black woman lives here with husband and young daughter.

Uma has a grudge to settle with her.

The Black lady answers the door and the two engage in tiresome and lethal combat. Their duel with carving knives is interrupted by the arrival of a big yellow school bus carrying the Black woman's four-year-old daughter. They ask the little girl to wait in her room while they finish their murderous tussle.

Instead they call a temporary truce and go to the kitchen to have coffee. "I wouldn't kill you in front of your daughter," Uma says. "I may not have any mercy or compassion, but I do have reason." (Sic)

Despite the truce, the Black lady has a gun hidden in a cereal box but she misses. Uma then delivers a large carving knife to the Black woman's heart. The child appears but is totally impassive at the sight of her dead mother. She doesn't scream or run away but acts as if someone had killed a fly.

Nevertheless the child might seek revenge. "Despite what you think, your mother had it coming," Uma tells her. "But if you want to get even when you grown up, you can find me."

Uma then leaves the child with her mother's corpse. She crosses the toy-strewn lawn to her brightly colored SUV. A narrator sounding like an oriental sage says something like: "In the martial arts you cannot afford any compassion or morality. To accomplish revenge, you must be prepared to prepare to kill God Himself, or the Buddha." (emphasis mine)

Can they be any more in-your-face? This is the Devil telling us that we can have anything we want, and nothing can stop us, especially not God. Just so long as our stupidity is accompanied by pretension and style.

This sick, shocking movie brutalizes and degrades. It portrays the disgusting and repulsive as normal and natural. It is a vicious assault on our vision of happiness and the good life. It makes a mockery of healthy and genuine values.

How much longer will Americans tolerate Satanic indoctrination?

This Satanic conspiracy only succeeds because people cannot believe something so colossal and monstrous actually exists.

CONCLUSION

The human endeavor is a simple question of whom do we wish to become, God or Lucifer? If we become God-like (the invitation of Jesus and true religious teachers) the world would be heaven and our lives would be bliss. If we choose Lucifer, you can imagine the rest.

The world is a contest for our souls. The people who are pushing products, violence and sex are not operating on a random "whatever sells" basis. They have Masonic symbols in their logos. The top players are following an occult script designed to enslave humanity, body and soul. They are building a gigantic prison based on their own mental hell. This is the New World Order; we are the inmates.

Is there any question why David Livingstone named his ground breaking book The Dying God?


Title: Re:Secular society worships lucifer?
Post by: Tibby on November 10, 2003, 06:59:52 PM
Next they’ll be dancing!  ::)

I don't know if being brainwashed you "Christian" leaders is any better then all you have just listed.

Why do people look for Satan all over. Should we not look for God all over?

Science is the study of the world. A World created by God. That glow in the light bulb isn’t evil spirits, my friend.

“Kill Bill” was just a crappy movie, why bring Satan into the equation? Even Satan would be offended with his name being associated with that movie! All that glitters is not gold, and it goes both ways.

Your right, we have trouble believing something so colossal and monstrous actually exists because we have been raised up to believe in a God bigger then anything. Compared to him, nothing is colossal.

Actually, I do have a question why David Livingstone names his book “The Dying God.” Was it by chance an idea taken from Nietzsche's philosophy?


Title: Re:Secular society worships lucifer?
Post by: Petro on November 10, 2003, 10:49:42 PM
It is important to know that Secular Humanism has two camps;

1. Aethistic Humanists, and hold to the tenet that Man holds  the key to the future, and of course this no higher power.

2. Religious Humanist, of these on one end of the spectrum are theists, and some that even identify themselves as christians, who believe in evolution, and in reality are simply religionists, who reject the basic doctrines of Christianity, virgin birth, resurrection, diety of the Lord, while also, claiming man has the answers for the future of mankind, and at the other end borderline aethists.


Almost all, the elitests or those who consider themselves such, fall into one of these two definitions.

But make to mistake about it they are Secular and Humanists.


Petro


Title: Re:Secular society worships lucifer?
Post by: justjonny on November 11, 2003, 02:20:16 AM
Science is the study of the world. A World created by God.

nope.  Science is the study of the world to create technology to destroy it and everything and everyone living on it.  That seems like a good description of science.  Whether it be atomic, nuclear bombs, guns, tanks you name it.


Title: Secular society worships lucifer?
Post by: Brother Love on November 11, 2003, 04:27:12 AM
I think Harry Potter is the head demon :)

Brother Love :)


Title: Re:Secular society worships lucifer?
Post by: Tibby on November 11, 2003, 09:43:22 AM
Yeah, that is just technological science, and only one aspect of Technological Science. There is still whole other branches with little to do with technology. You can no more group all science as evil because of weaponry then you can group all Christians as evil  because of the nuts who bomb Abortion clinics. Sorry, but science isn't evil, it is all in how you use it.


Title: Re:Secular society worships lucifer?
Post by: justjonny on December 08, 2003, 02:14:41 AM
Yeah, that is just technological science, and only one aspect of Technological Science. There is still whole other branches with little to do with technology. You can no more group all science as evil because of weaponry then you can group all Christians as evil  because of the nuts who bomb Abortion clinics. Sorry, but science isn't evil, it is all in how you use it.

science has separated man from Godliness you have to admit.


Title: Re:Secular society worships lucifer?
Post by: DareDevil on January 02, 2004, 07:36:21 AM
http://www.savethemales.ca/000118.html

Essentially, this tradition adopted Lucifer as symbol of mankind's rebellion against God. It enshrined human reason, appetite and will as the ultimate standard of goodness and truth.
It is still the problem today......."GOD SAYS....BUT I THINK"

 "Satan, which deceives the whole world,(Revelation 12:9).

Many are the deceptions of Satan, whom God created, to be the most intelligent beings in all the universe.
And while he served God in good standing...he was a great service to God.

But as scripture says...he felt so superior that he let the gifts,  given him by God, corrupt his thinking.
He wanted to worship as a God, (Isaiah 14:12-14).
He led a rebellion in heaven against God.....and there was war in heaven, (Revelation 12:7-9).

He now carries forth the desire to obtain worship to himself, and he has captured the Christian world...by setting up ...Sunday, as his...day of worship, in opposition to God's Holy Sabbath day.  

The Bible predicted that Satan would attempt this very thing, (Daniel 7:25....."THINK TO CHANGE TIMES AND LAWS").