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Abortion #1 killer of blacks, says Tennessee pastor
Rusty Pugh OneNewsNow.comAugust 6, 2007 blackbaby.jpg

The pastor of an African Methodist Episcopal church in Tennessee says blacks in America need to know that an enemy much more dangerous than the Ku Klux Klan and other hate groups snuffs out the lives of more blacks than do violence, accidents, and all diseases combined.

Joseph Parker is pastor of Campbell Chapel AME Church in Pulaski, Tennessee, birthplace of the Ku Klux Klan. Parker says most blacks would agree that the Klan is viewed as the number-one enemy of blacks. Yet despite all the violence that group has committed over the years, the Tennessee pastor says it "pales in comparison" to the violence and killing committed by the world's largest abortion-provider, Planned Parenthood.

"Planned Parenthood kills more black people in three days than the Klan has killed in its entire history of existence," he states emphatically. "Yet many in the African-American community [who] don't even see Planned Parenthood as an enemy would see them as a friend. So one of the things we're using as a platform is explaining that 'you may think the Klan is your enemy -- let me show you the real enemy.'"

Parker says black churches need to educate their congregations on the number-one killer of blacks. "Right now the biggest killer of the African-American community is abortion," he explains. "If you [combine] all the deaths from AIDS and high blood pressure and diabetes ... it pales in comparison."

Parker's says his message is simple. Most blacks, he asserts, would say abortion is not a "black problem," when it is in fact their number-one problem.

Using data compiled from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the group BlackGenocide.org estimates that since 1973, more than 13 million black babies have been killed by abortion. According to that data, deaths among blacks attributed to AIDS, violent crimes, accidents, cancer, and heart disease totaled less than five million.

Abortion #1 killer of blacks, says Tennessee pastor (http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/08/abortion_1_killer_of_blacks_sa.php)

The most dangerous place for children is in their mother's wombs. The #1 cause of death in children today is abortion. 40,000,000+ since Roe vs Wade...3,000 babies die each DAY.

Hello Dreamweaver,

Brother, I'll thank you for reminding us. This is something that NOT ONE of us should ever forget. It's sickening and disgusting, but this TRUTH should never been hidden or forgotten. We need a frequent reminder that we condone the mass murder of millions of innocent babies. These babies were gifts from GOD to their parents, and they were butchered in a most savage and inhumane way. Further, they belonged to GOD, and there is no humane way to kill innocent babies. This one issue is enough to tell us how barbaric and insensitive we have become with human life.

As SICK as this makes me every time I think about it, I want to think about this often and keep praying that this will be stopped. I know that the babies are completely innocent and go immediately to be with JESUS, but this isn't enough to soothe the conscience. Now, I'm thinking about many Godly parents who can't have children and pray that GOD will help them adopt a child. I'm left with one question:  how can we do this - are we really this barbaric?

guys as a woman i am trying to understand what it is you actually dont like?

is it the fact that you dont agree with abortion in general or that due to carelessness so many lives are lost.  by carelessne i mean unsteraliseed tables and equipment etc?

sorry if i sound a bit thick!

To "quote" from a WONDERFUL book and it's "Author":
"thou shall NOT kill"
Also, I can not think of anything else more 'sickening' then this!

ok! so  i assume from that you dont agree with abortion at all!

does it not also say "you shall not commit adultery"?  many children ae conceived as a result of adultery and abortion is the way many try to cover it up.  dont get me wrong i do not agree with this but it is a sad fact.

also while i know it says "thou shall not kill" do you not find it strange that many killed animals and gave them as offerings to the lord?

and also does it not also state" you must give me the firstborn of your sons. do the same with your cattle and your sheep.  let them stay with their mother fors for seven days but give them to me on the eight day"

it does not say how to give them to the lord tho!

there are some situations where abortion is necessary.  i speak as one that had to terminate a pregnancy as if i didnt it would have killed me so in a way i had no option. mean my choice was silpoe to either terminate it or have the child and most likely die before it went full term and leave my two boys without a mother. it was hard but i had to be sure i was there to be with my sons who needed me. i was in a loving relationship and if it had been different i would have had the child but sometimes our own bodies say no and we have to listen to that and do what we feel is right.  only god has the right to judge us for our choices  and then he will look into our hearts and decide how sincere we are and whether to forgive us or not.

i could have taken the easy way out when i was pregnant with my first child and terminated the pregnancy but i didnt and had her even tho i was 15.  that was hard as each time i saw her i was reminded of how she was conceived and the terrible ordeal i went through. i didnt and she was a lovely girl although she was born with a rare blood condition that meant her own blood was poisoning her little body.  we had numerous trips the tho hospital for blood transfusions and finally i lost her when she was 4. those was 4 wonderful years that i had with her but also the hardest ones i have even had and after going through what i wen through i dont blame anyone that wants to terminate the pregnancy due to the child being conceived through rape or even wanting to terminate if the child is not healthy.  we do not  have that right to judge those  and i know how hard those choices are for many. 

i am aware that some will disagree with my views but after going through what i did it made me change my views on many aspects including this.  i used to think it was so wrong killing a child but now i am older i understand why people do these things  and how hard it is for many to do.

As you stated in another post "i think we will have to agree to disagree here" ...

In Jesus ....

Amen.

Hello Angel,

There are many highly detailed threads on the forum already about abortion, and I suggest that you read them. It's not a matter of what we think or our opinion, rather of what the Bible tells us and teaches us. The Holy Bible is exceptionally clear, blunt, and unmistakable in terms of abortion being murder. The life of the mother being in immediate peril would be a worthy discussion, but nothing else would.

It really doesn't matter what I think about abortion, and my opinion counts for nothing. However, Christians do care about what the Bible teaches and what GOD'S Opinion is. Very briefly:

GOD knew us before the foundation of the world.

GOD numbered the hairs on our heads before the foundation of the world.

GOD knitted us together in our mother's womb.

Babies are gifts to parents, and they belong to GOD.

I see that you've tried to make some Old Testament comparisons that you don't understand. However, you prefaced your statements with a disclaimer that you didn't understand what they meant. The portions of Scripture about babies aren't difficult to understand at all. It really boils down to sin and a need for forgiveness. The BLOOD of JESUS CHRIST on the CROSS is more than enough for Christians who seek forgiveness.

Love In Christ,
Tom


 

hey the bit i just dont get is that we are told not to kill but we do kill when we used to offer sacrifices and  to me i find that strange.

but having said that i am a vegatarian and i dont believe anything should be killed is life is so precious no matter if it is animal or not.

i can just see why people do have abortions and it is no easy thing to do for many people.

again this is one subject i think we have to agree to disagree on.

love to you friend

jo

Hello Angel,

It's nothing for us to disagree, but you will be disagreeing with the Bible - not me. Sister, we didn't use to offer sacrifices unless one of us is a Jew and lived under the Law of Moses. We've only lived under GRACE, the time after JESUS CHRIST and the CROSS, so I doubt that either one of us have ever offered a sacrifice for sin. If we did, it would have been worthless and nothing in comparison to the PERFECT SACRIFICE of JESUS CHRIST ON THE CROSS. AND OBVIOUSLY, killing an animal to eat couldn't be compared to murdering a human being. GOD provided animals for us to eat, but human beings aren't animals.

Blood was required under the Mosaic Law for forgiveness of sins. It is important for us to understand GOD'S Covenant with Israel, but we don't live under the Law. There were also certain meats that were forbidden under the Law of Moses. I do eat meat, and there's nothing wrong with that according to the Bible. We are to simply give thanks to GOD for what He's provided for our nourishment.

Angel, agreement or disagreement with the Holy Bible is what matters.

Love In Christ,
Tom


 

Sister Angel,

I realize there are myriad reasons women seek abortions.  I have a friend who became pregnant due to a brutal rape by a stranger.   Some would argue that she had a legitimate reason to abort her baby.  After all, she was raped and should not be forced to give birth under such egregious circumstances.  Furthermore, the child would be a constant reminder of a tremendously traumatic experience.  Not only did she opt for life over abortion, she chose not to give her up for adoption. 

Her daughter, the product of a vicious rape, is a wonderful young Christian lady, and my friend is extremely proud.  She told me she never thinks of "how" her daughter was conceived, it's irrelevant.  The circumstances of her daughter's conception do not change the fact that she is her child.  She said she can't imagine her life without her precious daughter. 

There are many people alive today born prior to Roe v. Wade, who would not have been given the opportunity for life on this earth had their mother had the option for a legal abortion.   I'm not judging anyone who has had an abortion.  Only God can judge.  All I know is that life is a precious gift from God.

I will not debate this subject.  I too must agree to disagree. 

If you killed a child, you are same as rapist that rape you. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v512/Pizza_Al/emotions/sob.gif) (I'm sorry for saying that! BUT!)
Really, go ahead treat you child as trash if you want. Point is, as long a child know the Lord and his son, plus the purpose,  and orders from the Lord.

hang on a min

my daughter was the result of brutal  gang rape that left me in hospital for months  and i dont care what you think about the subject of rapists, i know how hard it is to carry a child that you dont want, and then have to look at it and even tho you love it, the reminder is there of what happened.

it is far harder to deal with then having an abortion and i know from experience. i went through depression and wanted to just end it all, and many times i got close to it and i am not proud of that fact but i managed to get through it and look after my daughter and enjoy the precious little time i had with her.

not everyone treats a child as trash as you put it, some are not emotionally able to handle the situation and we have no right to judge anyone for the choices they make

the only one that has the right to judge our choices in life is our lord, and i will not judge anyone that has made that hard decision to terminate a pregnancy as i know myself how hard it is.  some seem to think it is easy, well it isnt at all.

love to you
jo

Angel,

I'm not trying to make you angry or hurt your feelings, but I'll have to state the truth.

GOD and the Holy Bible are quite clear and blunt on this issue. It isn't our judgment if GOD has already made the judgment and given it to us in HIS WORD.

The RIGHT THING is many times very difficult to do and something we might not want to do. We can ask the simple question: Will GOD accept our excuse for disobeying HIM? The answer is "NO", so it now becomes a matter of praying for forgiveness.

We certainly wouldn't want to encourage others to disobey GOD, especially when there are options to obey HIM. I would be talking about things like adoption. Christians discuss options like this all of the time in an effort to please GOD and end the murder of babies.

The babies do belong to GOD, and they are NOT things or something we can decide life or death for. ONLY GOD does this, and ONLY GOD has this right.

NOW, let's talk about the ultimate TRUTH of GOD and HIS WORD. There are many people who don't like GOD'S WORD because it is GOD telling us what to do in all parts of our lives. GOD is our CREATOR, and HE has every right to tell us what to do in all parts of our lives. When we disobey HIM, it isn't a matter of bargaining or excuses, rather a matter of praying for forgiveness. There is no irony that this is really the only way to obtain peace in our hearts. We can know that GOD has forgiven us and give thanks that HE has.

In the case of abortion, Christians can and should share the truth. Christians can also share options to obey GOD. We should know that many thousands of couples can't have children, and many of them have prayed for years that GOD would make it possible for them to adopt a child. Many of these couples would make wonderful parents, and that would make the couple and GOD happy.

Love In Christ,
Tom


 

Amen!

please dont think that i am being nasty as i dont mean this like that, but when you are a man and looking at issues like this it is only natural that you cannt understand the trauma that a woman goes through  when making the choices.

while i agree that life is precious and a gift as well for many. for some it can be the most traumatic things a woman can go through. in fact carrying the child and then giving it  up for adoption can be worse than a abortion for the mother to be, even tho i know of many that would to make wonderful parents but are unable to have children themselves sadly.

i spent months asking for forgivenes when i had my abortion even tho i wasnt really given any choice in the matter, even now it hurts still and this is a few years on.

 guys while i respect your opinions and your comments i am sorry but i have to say that you are looking at it as well from a mans perspective as well as a scriptual perspective. 

while i would never encourage anyone to go against the scriptures i do believe that we all have choices to make in life and this for me was the hardest thing i ever had to do, and i pray i never go through the heart ache like that again.

i agree that many dont like to listen to gods word but he himeslf gave us the choice to listen to him or not to, and it is up to us what we do in that matter!
 
me i would love to have another child but after my abortion i found out that it was my last chance to have children, so every day i ask myself if i made the right choice to terminate and put my 2 sons, now aged 6 and 8, first!  personally i dont know and i will never know and yes i am heart broken each time i hear another family member being excited as i wish i was to, but that is what my lord has chosen for me and i accept that! some times i wonder if it was a punishment from him for past wrongs.  i know that one day i will find out and who knows perhaps a miracle will happen and my prayers will be answered but only my lord knows the answer to that.   

i genuinly dont mean to sound nasty on this matter and if it comes across like that then i apologise but it is a subject that is close to my heart

love to you

jo

didnt realise you had such an issue with a word used so have amended it, apologies but it was done in the moment and typed as i thought at the time

As has been said before this is not a man's point of view it is God's. There are several women that have posted in this thread that have disagreed with you also and it is based simply on God's word.


While it is true that He gives us the choice to listen to Him or not we also must answer for the decisions that we make especially when we knowingly make the wrong choice and abortion is in fact a wrong choice and it is not a matter of being from a womans point of view or a mans. It is God's point of view that matters. This is the plain blunt truth.

Yes, it is hard for a woman to have a child under any circumstance, harder in some than others. It is even harder on a woman to have an abortion, physically, mentally and spiritually. There are many women that will attest to that.

Yes, God will forgive us of our sins as long as we go to Him and are truthfully sorry for those sins. Thank God He is a merciful God.

This is a subject that should be close to the heart of all Christians and to put it quite bluntly it should be one that Christians stand up against not giving excuses for it. It is God's word.

Amen PR.


Angel,

While I do not judge you.  One thing that I wish to point out for other readers.  You mention that it is difficult for many women and such to go through. 
While I would agree that for someone who has roots in a Christian background that is true.  However since Roe v Wade there have been about 40,000,000 abortions.
Last year there were 98,000 rapes (and that is a .8% increase from last year). 
Roe v Wade was in 1973.  So since RvW there has been 1.176 million abortions per year. 
I do not have the numbers but I am also sure that life threatening issues to mother or child do not account for even half of those numbers.  So based on that a majority of abortions can be seen as the "easy" choice of the parent(s) deciding they do not want that baby.

Again I am not saying that this is you or anything of that nature.  I am sure we disagree on the actual issue...however I did want to point out that abortion has become an "easy" out for many women.

Amen, brother and those figures that you gave only pertain to those in the U. S. and do not include abortions in other countries which are also on the incline.

angel,

Again I want to reiterate that no one here is pointing a finger at you and saying "You have sinned" we are simply pointing to the Bible and saying that it tells us all very clearly that God says abortion is sin.

Brothers and Sisters,

I simply want to repeat or restate several things for clarity:

This is NOT a man versus woman issue.

This is NOT an issue for men or women to decide.

This is an issue already decided by ALMIGHTY GOD, and that's the end of the story.

It really doesn't matter what individual opinions are on this matter, and the opinion coming from a man or a woman is a moot issue. GOD could care less what the opinions are of HIS Creation.

There is NO argument with GOD, and GOD could care less about Roe vs. Wade. It means nothing to GOD except disobedience.
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My Opinion:

NOW, I'll state a personal opinion, and I think that I could easily find hard evidence to back up my opinion. Only a tiny percentage of abortions involve the potential death of the mother if the baby is born. Almost all abortions are to avoid responsibility, avoid embarrassment for a baby born out of wedlock, OR FOR SIMPLE CONVENIENCE PURPOSES! Abortion is mass murder, and I think that the women, nurses, and doctors participating in abortion should be tried for murder.

My Opinion:

There probably are a percentage of women getting abortions who don't understand what they are doing when they decide to get an abortion. Further, the current system doesn't allow them to be informed or educated about what they are really doing. Most generally, our public doesn't know or understand the procedures and issues involved, regardless of whether they believe in GOD or not. There are many secrets that the abortionists, feminists, and ultra-liberals don't want the public to know about abortions. These secrets need to be revealed in graphic detail. Those wanting an abortion, legal or illegal, should be forced to watch a video or actual abortion to understand what they are considering. However, this information is withheld from them because they might change their mind!! Tell them everything and show them everything!! Don't let them wonder about what they are wanting to do - let them KNOW about what they are wanting to do!!

Show the public the graphic proof that unborn babies feel horrible pain when they are aborted!!

Show the public what's done with the bodies of these aborted babies!!

Show the public close-up actual abortions and let everyone know what abortion really is!!

Whatever is done with the aborted baby, make the mother be involved in the disposal!!

In conclusion, many people who make tons of money from abortions don't want the general public to know ALL the TRUTH about abortions!! If the general public was TOTALLY informed, that would be a very dangerous situation for the abortion industry!! With COMPLETE EDUCATION, one could take GOD and the Holy Bible out of the issues, and the vast majority of the public would demand that abortions end!! It boils down to being torture, inhumane, barbaric murder!!
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Please let me make one more statement - my opinion means absolutely NOTHING! GOD has already spoken on this issue.