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Scouts banned from eating burgers and bangers - because of religious beliefs


It was the glorious dawn of dibdibdobbing. A hundred years ago Lord Baden-Powell set out with 20 lads, his mission to teach them to hunt, light a fire and build shelter in the great outdoors.

A century on, it seems the original flame of Boy Scouting is not burning quite so bright.

For at a jamboree to mark the centenary of that original trip, there is no singing around the glowing embers of the camp fire - because there is no fire.

nd you can't find a singed sausage for love nor money. However, there are veggie burgers aplenty.

And a large potted plant, around which the Scouts of 2007 can gather and write down thoughts on how to achieve world peace.

The location is Brownsea Island in Dorset, the starting point of Scouting where Lord Baden-Powell led the first expedition.

Those young pioneers caught rabbits and then skinned and cooked them on an open fire.

Some 300 modern-day Scouts (the word Boy was dropped in the 1960s) settled down to a meal prepared in a 'kitchen marquee' and consisting entirely of vegetarian food - so as not to offend any religious faiths.

Clare Haines, a spokesman for the Scout Association, said: "It was really to do with religion that we were not able to provide sausages and burgers and all that kind of food.

"We have been very careful to make sure food is provided to everybody's tastes and beliefs, so no one feels left out.

"They enjoyed their vegetarian meals, especially vegetable chilli, fresh salads and jacket potatoes."

She added that campfires had been banned on the National Trust-owned island after a massive woodland blaze 30 years ago.

However, Claire Barnes, a Scout leader from Rochester, Kent, said: "I can't believe anyone would have a problem with sausages or burgers.

"I've been involved with the Scouts for 15 years and it's the first time I have ever heard anything like this.

"We're proud of teaching our children about building fires - it's these basic survival skills which the movement is based on.

"I can understand why they wanted to make everyone feel accepted but I think that's probably taking things a little too far."

The jamboree is one of many events being held to mark the Scouting 2007 Centenary.

But for some, the Brownsea experience lacked the outdoors feel of a traditional camping experience.

In the middle of the island stands a huge marquee fitted out with industrial ovens and fridges stocked with vegetarian food.

Next to it is a large, covered canteen and stage where bands have performed in the evening during the five days of celebrations.

There is also an Internet cafe set up with ten lap-top computers to allow home-sick youngsters to keep in touch with their families around the globe.

The Scouts sleep in single- sex tents scattered around the island and have the use of numerous wash tents and portable lavatories.

Hundreds of solar powered lights line the walk ways across the island to avoid anyone tripping over tent pegs, and each cluster of tents is illuminated by strings of electric lights powered by generators.

David Massen, a Scout leader from Bradford, said last night: "A lot has changed with the way Scouting works since 1907.

"The principles are still the same but society has changed.

"For example, Baden-Powell could just take his Scouts out on a boat for a fishing trip, whereas if I want to do the same I have to take a two-hour training session and write a four-page risk assessment statement."

Personally I find those veggie burgers offensive to my taste buds. They don't taste like burgers and they certainly don't taste like veggies. I like my veggies, yes even broccoli and brussels sprouts. I also like my hot dogs and hamburgers but I find those veggie burgers a total all out assault on my tastebuds.

Yes those veggie burgers offensive to me, as well.  I know that hambugers are a staple for the Boy Scouts.  The last campout, I went on had hamburgers for dinner.  By the way, that was 2 years ago. I also like my veggies, including broccoli, peas, and brussels sprouts. ;D

I have to agree....veggie burgers are an acquired taste that I simply can't acquire.  ;D  I do like turkey burgers though, especially with sauteed onions.

Turkey burgers, turkey ham (cold cuts), turkey sausage ....  yummm. I think it's time for dinner.