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Title: A gay conspiracy???
Post by: justjonny on November 01, 2003, 08:23:26 PM
http://www.stargods.org/GayConspiracy.htm

Today we live in a world of churches that have become so politically correct that they do not even talk about hell or sin. All they talk about is how sweet Jesus is and give the audience a great line up of live musical entertainment. The people wear the latest fashions and hair styles and do not even come with a Bible in hand. In the charismatic circles you can be entertained by traveling "healers" that growl like dogs and swing their arms around wildly like a dictator of Germany. They will pump your ego to the maximum declaring that you are "special" and that God has a ministry for you. They may even tell you that you have a special gift of power. All this is seen as okay and healthy to the church. Why is this?

Why is because the churches are institutions that greatly depend on your money known as tithes and offerings. A pastor has to be paid and a building has to be maintained. In order for pastors to keep the cash flow steady, they have to keep Bible doctrine down to a to a minimum in order not to offend anyone. They are there to please all the people all the time. When they offend, the cash flow drops. What most of the churches are today is an entertainment business.

Now that we understand how most churches do not want to offend anyone at any cost, we must now ask ourselves a few questions. How is it that all of a sudden and all at once, the churches started expressing a strong desire to bring in practicing homosexuals into the fold. Why would they ever take such a deep financial risk? Why are they even considering homosexual pastors? How is it that at the same time television shows all at once started to have gay characters introduced into most of the movies and TV? Also right on cue, Disney the most trusted name in children's entertainment started to push homosexuality for the gay movement. Is this coincidence, or is this a gay conspiracy that began to take off at the sound of the bell. All at once the gays started to come against our religious foundations, the sanctity of marriage, our heterosexual rights, our way of life, and even our children!

Is there a conspiracy? If so who is behind it? These are but a few questions that need to be asked. You as a reader need to search and draw your own conclusions.


Title: Re:A gay conspiracy???
Post by: ebia on November 01, 2003, 09:58:03 PM
So you've learned how to use cut and paste.   Now try it on a site that isn't so whacked out it thinks the Prince of Wales is the anti-christ. ::)


Title: A gay conspiracy???
Post by: Ambassador4Christ on November 01, 2003, 10:07:38 PM
http://www.stargods.org/GayConspiracy.htm

Today we live in a world of churches that have become so politically correct ......

Thanks justjonny, good message, I will check out your link.

"Grace & Peace


Title: Re:A gay conspiracy???
Post by: justjonny on November 02, 2003, 12:44:45 AM
So you've learned how to use cut and paste.   Now try it on a site that isn't so whacked out it thinks the Prince of Wales is the anti-christ. ::)

If you don't care for the article and dont put effort into discussing it then don't post at all.  You only waste thread space with silly comments like that.


Title: Re:A gay conspiracy???
Post by: ebia on November 02, 2003, 12:52:16 AM
This whole thread is a waste of space, so what's your point?


Title: Re:A gay conspiracy???
Post by: twobombs on November 02, 2003, 04:21:06 AM
OMG; I agree with A4C on this post ! *Let this day be noted!* :)


Title: A gay conspiracy???
Post by: Brother Love on November 03, 2003, 05:19:55 AM
OMG; I agree with A4C on this post ! *Let this day be noted!* :)

A4C & twobombs agree, the end is near :)

Brother Love :)


Title: Re:A gay conspiracy???
Post by: ollie on November 03, 2003, 05:18:09 PM
http://www.stargods.org/GayConspiracy.htm

Today we live in a world of churches that have become so politically correct that they do not even talk about hell or sin. All they talk about is how sweet Jesus is and give the audience a great line up of live musical entertainment. The people wear the latest fashions and hair styles and do not even come with a Bible in hand. In the charismatic circles you can be entertained by traveling "healers" that growl like dogs and swing their arms around wildly like a dictator of Germany. They will pump your ego to the maximum declaring that you are "special" and that God has a ministry for you. They may even tell you that you have a special gift of power. All this is seen as okay and healthy to the church. Why is this?

Why is because the churches are institutions that greatly depend on your money known as tithes and offerings. A pastor has to be paid and a building has to be maintained. In order for pastors to keep the cash flow steady, they have to keep Bible doctrine down to a to a minimum in order not to offend anyone. They are there to please all the people all the time. When they offend, the cash flow drops. What most of the churches are today is an entertainment business.

Now that we understand how most churches do not want to offend anyone at any cost, we must now ask ourselves a few questions. How is it that all of a sudden and all at once, the churches started expressing a strong desire to bring in practicing homosexuals into the fold. Why would they ever take such a deep financial risk? Why are they even considering homosexual pastors? How is it that at the same time television shows all at once started to have gay characters introduced into most of the movies and TV? Also right on cue, Disney the most trusted name in children's entertainment started to push homosexuality for the gay movement. Is this coincidence, or is this a gay conspiracy that began to take off at the sound of the bell. All at once the gays started to come against our religious foundations, the sanctity of marriage, our heterosexual rights, our way of life, and even our children!

Is there a conspiracy? If so who is behind it? These are but a few questions that need to be asked. You as a reader need to search and draw your own conclusions.
"Is there a conspiracy? If so who is behind it? These are but a few questions that need to be asked. You as a reader need to search and draw your own conclusions"

Yes, the devil! God answers the questions in His word. God's conclusions through His son Jesus Christ should be reached!



Title: Re:A gay conspiracy???
Post by: KiwiChristian on November 03, 2003, 09:38:47 PM
Thanks for the article Jonny - I think we appreciate what you are trying to say.  Ebia, please....think before you post, thank you.


Title: Re:A gay conspiracy???
Post by: justjonny on November 06, 2003, 11:29:04 PM
Thanks for the article Jonny - I think we appreciate what you are trying to say.  Ebia, please....think before you post, thank you.

What im trying to say is that there are dark forces behind the gay movement.  This is nothing more than social engineering.


Title: Re:A gay conspiracy???
Post by: Forrest on November 07, 2003, 01:37:18 AM
EPH 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].


Title: Re:A gay conspiracy???
Post by: nChrist on November 07, 2003, 09:48:22 PM
EPH 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].

Oklahoma Howdy to Forrest,

THANKS BROTHER! This portion of Scripture is the perfect summary of this and many other issues.

Love In Christ,
Tom


Title: Re:A gay conspiracy???
Post by: Forrest on December 03, 2003, 10:00:09 AM
Macy’s Gives a Thanksgiving Wink to ‘Gay’ Activism     12/1/2003
By Martha Kleder

Parade float featured actor Harvey Fierstein in a flaming red dress.


Michael Jackson’s song “Thriller” may have been too controversial for Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade, but depicting Mrs. Santa Claus as a man in a red dress apparently is not.


Tony-award winner Harvey Fierstein wore a flowing red dress as part of the cast of Hairspray in Thursday’s spectacle, and boasted about it in a catty column the day before in The New York Times:



Tomorrow, to the delight of millions of little children (not to mention the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court), the Santa in New York’s great parade will be half of a same-sex couple. And guess who the other half will be? Me! Harvey Fierstein … dressed in holiday finery portraying the one and only Mrs. Claus.

Won’t America get a kick out of that? But what if Santa really was gay? Could there be another Mr. Claus? Would those grinches who, as we speak, are fashioning legislation to deny marriage to gay and lesbian Americans, make an exception for the jolly old soul?


… As we approach the holiday season I’d like to imagine that fear and bigotry will not prevail in this land.



According to the program on the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade web site, Mr. Fierstein was to appear with the cast of the Broadway musical Hairspray on its own float, which he did. Meanwhile, parade officials told Bloomington, Indiana’s North High School marching band that they could not play “Thriller” by Indiana native Michael Jackson, who is facing child molestation charges in California.


Despite Mr. Fierstein’s in-your-face proclamation that he is “Mrs. Claus,” he was not Macy’s official Mrs. Claus, said Macy’s director of publicity, Elina Kazan.


“The Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade is not a platform for social or political issues. What Mr. Fierstein wrote [in The New York Times] is incorrect and misleading,” Kazan told Concerned Women for America's Culture and Family Institute (CFI) the day before the parade, from the balloon-inflation site. “He will be playing his Hairspray character Mrs. Turnblat, dressed in a Mrs. Claus outfit. He will be with the cast of Hairspray on their own float.”


“The real Mrs. Claus will be on the float with Santa,” she added. That float is traditionally the last feature of the Macy’s annual parade.


“I don’t know which is worse – Macy’s acquiescing to Fierstein’s in-your-face activism, or the Times, which used to be the nation’s paper of record, running his pro-homosexual tripe as ‘commentary,’” said Robert Knight, director of CFI. “There’s plenty of shame to go around in New York this Thanksgiving.”


For those who would like to send their respectfully worded comments to Macy’s, the e-mail address for Miss Kazan is elina.kazan@fds.com.

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Title: Re:A gay conspiracy???
Post by: Symphony on December 05, 2003, 11:45:10 AM

Hmm, thank you for that, Forrest.


Maybe one lesson from yours and the other above posts:  The gay/lesson movement is so rife already with its own contradictions, any added challenges attacking them may only get you sucked into something much worse.

In other words, Jesus said a "kingdom divided against itself cannot stand", and while the movement may have a conspiracy, or an agenda, they are so self-contradictory that just us standing for Jesus is example enough for them, without our actually even any longer challenging or certainly even "attacking" them.  They will die and destroy themselves, of their own weight, albeit we will probably die in the collateral damage--much as apparently Jeremiah did, warning the Israelites but at the same time having to go down into Egypt and die along with them there, at least as church tradition would apparently have it.