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2 Timothy 2:14.  Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.
 15.  Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
 16.  But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
 


Old Covenant,/ New covenant.

Old testament,/ New testament

Natural,/ Spiritual

Picking and choosing bits and pieces to substantiate God's will./  Using the whole to substantiate God's will.

Prophecy,/ Fulfillment

Earthly,/ Heavenly

Earthly kingdom,/ Heavenly kingdom

Old earth, old heaven, old Jerusalem,/ New earth, New heaven, New Jerusalem

Very good,
Jew, Gentile, and Church.
Grace and law.
Pauline vesus Jewish Epistles.

aw

Amen aw  ;D

Amen aw

The Crusader

"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them" (Rom. 16:17).

Jew,Gentile/one in Jesus the Christ.

 :D  go for it Ollie:

Old Testament: Jews and Non-Jews, Male vs. females

New Testament: Believers and unbelievers, sheep and goats.
Col.3:8-11: In Christ is neither Greek, nor Jew, circumcision or nuncircumcision (denominationalism...), barbarian, scythian, slave or free...  This works only when we "put on the new man, who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him, where there is neither..."   another place adds: neither male nor female.  

after Revelation is finished:
Heaven or Hell.  the final and irrevocable split.  

However, since I am living in the Church Age, I like to make the present split this way: True Believer (TB), Wannabe Believer (WB), soon-to-be believer (SB) and "I'm a committed unbeliever" (ICU). WBs hope their works will earn them a place or hope they make it to Heaven "some way or some how" or "by hook or by crook..."  SB's? ONLY God knows who these really are: I may classify them in any other group, until God Calls each one to HIM!  When SB's receive God's call and respond, they become TB's.  and last but not least: the folks who have grouped themselves AGAINST CHRIST are in the ICU group, needing lots of attention and healing!  

Me?  I am a TB and am hopefully VERY infectious!  ;)

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Now Read:

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

The Crusader

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

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Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Ollie

The Bible itself gives the instructions on how to study.

2 Tim. 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (KJV)
2Tim. 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. (KJV)

You see, all the Bible is for us, when it is rightly divided. The opposite of right division is wrong division. So we must conclude that care should be taken when studying the Word of God.
Many have never heard of dispensations or ages. These are not some theological words. Both of these words come right out of the bible
 

Eph. 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
Col. 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: (KJV)


Your friend and brother

The Crusader

Thank you, A nice contribution on the topic of the post.
It enhances the thought of the thread with God's word.

Thanks again,
In Christ's love,
Ollie

I will second that with an big,  Amen..

Blessings,
Petro

Wrongly Dividing
the Word of Truth
 
ULTRA-DISPENSATIONALISM EXAMINED
IN THE LIGHT OF HOLY SCRIPTURE
 
H.A. IRONSIDE, Litt.D.

http://www.brethrenonline.org/books/ultrad.htm

Eph. 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
Col. 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: (KJV)

Yes Pilgrim H.A. Ironside did a lot of Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth.

Maybe he did, I don't know. He sure hit the nail on the head in this article though.

Nope, he missed the nail many times in that article.  ;D

aw:

I agree wholehearetedly that we should rightly divide the Word of Truth, and make distinctions where God makes distinctions.

However, is it not true that all the epistles are for all believers in every age, regardless of who wrote them or to whom they were written? So how do you arrive at "Pauline vs. Jewish Epistles?"

Some claim that James's teaching on justification is in conflict with that of Paul's, forgetting tht it is ONE HOLY SPIRIT who directed both Paul and James to write what they wrote. A careful study of all the epistles reveals that they are inspired by that same Holy Spirit and form a seamless robe while they illuminate the OT and the Gospels.  

Any attempt to put Paul's epistles in a class by themselves goes against Paul's own teaching:

"For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not yet carnal?  Who then is Paul,and who is Apollos, but ministers, by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?  I have planted, Apollos watered; BUT GOD GAVE THE INCREASE" (1 Cor. 3:4-6).

All the apostles were "labourers together with God" (1 Cor. 3:9) therefore we would be presumptuous to make such distinctions.
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Pilgrim:

Thanks for posting that link to Ironside's teaching on Ultradispensationalism.  It is much needed in this day that we live in.

Ultradispensationsationalism is a good example of men making distinctions where God DOES NOT make distinctions, and rejecting, for example,  the command to baptize believers through immersion in water.

I guess we will just have to disagree on this one. I would highly recommend this article to all truth seekers. God bless.  

Amen! Sower.

It's good to hear from a fellow truth seeker.

Yes, we do not agree on this Brother. I believe this article is more harmful than helpful.

Grace & Peace

Then it would be good for everyone to read this article so they can make up their own minds wether Ironside hit the nail on the head or not. Don't you think It would be interesting to see how many on this board would agree or disagree with Ironside's article?

I read the article, many times.

"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good."

That's great! I would highly recommend everyone do like you did and read it many times.

H A Ironside was the American Charles Spurgeon, both cut from the same mold solid teachers of Gods Word.

The teaching of Bullingerism, if I am not mistaken ignores the Messianic Milennial Reign of Jesus on the earth, the result of ultra dispensationalism, of course not all who teach "No literal 1000 year reign of Christ on the earth are Bullingerists, but clerarly they are kin to the teaching..

Brother Ironside hit the nail on the head, with his article.

J Vernan McGee agrees with H A Ironside, as I remember in one of his sermons, relaying his preayer to God when a young seminarian, asking to preach the Gospel with that very same fervor and vindication as H A Ironside, after hqaving heard him preach one sunday morning;  he goes on to recall many years later, preaching at the same church where H A Ironside's had been pastor, and having several older members of that congregation coming up to him after the service and telling him, he reminded them of Pastor Ironsides in his preaching..............he cried, while  praising the Lord.

Ultra dispensaltionalism is a thorn in the side of God's church.



Blessing s,

Petro

Amen! Petro.

Amen, Pilgrim.... I see why you love Brother Ironsides....

Good Man.


God Bless,

Petro

Hi Petro,

Yes! I really like Ironside a lot. I think he was a very sound teacher who knew his Bible very well. We need more like him today.

Pilgrim

 I would rate him fair. He missed the nail a lot of times.

The Crusader

Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth

Matt. 7:7-8
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Now Read:

2Cor. 12: 8-9
8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. 9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

The Crusader