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Title: U.S. allows Wiccan symbols on headstones
Post by: Soldier4Christ on April 24, 2007, 05:07:52 AM
U.S. allows Wiccan symbols on headstones
Pagan pentacle added to list of emblems allowed in national cemeteries

The Wiccan pentacle has been added to the list of emblems allowed in national cemeteries and on goverment-issued headstones of fallen soldiers, according to a settlement announced Monday.

A settlement between the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs and Wiccans adds the five-pointed star to the list of "emblems of belief" allowed on VA grave markers.

Eleven families nationwide are waiting for grave markers with the pentacle, said Selena Fox, a Wiccan high priestess with Circle Sanctuary in Barneveld, Wis., a plaintiff in the lawsuit.

The settlement calls for the pentacle, whose five points represent earth, air, fire, water and spirit, to be placed on grave markers within 14 days for those who have pending requests with the VA.

"I am glad this has ended in success in time to get markers for Memorial Day," Fox said.

The VA sought the settlement in the interest of the families involved and to save taxpayers the expense of further litigation, VA spokesman Matt Burns said. The agency also agreed to pay $225,000 in attorneys' fees and costs.

The pentacle has been added to 38 symbols the VA already permits on gravestones. They include commonly recognized symbols for Christianity, Buddhism, Islam and Judaism, as well as those for smaller religions such as Sufism Reoriented, Eckiankar and the Japanese faith Seicho-No-Ie.

"This settlement has forced the Bush Administration into acknowledging that there are no second class religions in America, including among our nation's veterans," said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, which represented the Wiccans in the lawsuit.

The American Civil Liberties Union said the agreement also settles a similar lawsuit it filed last year against the VA. In that case, the ACLU represented two other Wiccan churches and three individuals.

VA-issued headstones, markers and plaques can be used in any cemetery, whether it is a national one such as Arlington or a private burial ground like that on Circle Sanctuary's property.

Wicca is a nature-based religion based on respect for the earth, nature and the cycle of the seasons. Variations of the pentacle not accepted by Wiccans have been used in horror movies as a sign of the devil.


Title: Re: U.S. allows Wiccan symbols on headstones
Post by: Keltoi on April 24, 2007, 04:23:40 PM
Personally, while it is unfortunate these soldiers did not accept Christ, their service to the country is important enough for them to request whatever symbol they want on their headstone.   I may not agree with it or like it, but they have earned at least that much.   It is between them and God now.


Title: Re: U.S. allows Wiccan symbols on headstones
Post by: Brother Jerry on April 24, 2007, 04:40:26 PM
I would have to agree.  As much as I dislike the idea and the thought that there are now those souls in Hell, I do feel it is their right to have their religious symbol on their headstones.  Now I can go to Arlington and know for certain who is not in Heaven, and thus pray that their ancestors have learned.


Title: Re: U.S. allows Wiccan symbols on headstones
Post by: Faithin1 on April 26, 2007, 09:34:43 AM
One thing for sure, the ACLU will not object.  I have to agree with both of you, it is their right.  I had to laugh though, because it made me think of my deceased brother who has a Navy veteran's grave marker containing a cross.  I am glad my family has a plot and his grave is situated between mine and my parents.  I remember how upset he was because the SSA wouldn't change his SS# which ended with the numbers 666.