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Title: Jesus tomb film scholars backtrack
Post by: Shammu on April 13, 2007, 01:27:42 AM
Jesus tomb film scholars backtrack
Etgar Lefkovits, THE JERUSALEM POST    Apr. 11, 2007

Several prominent scholars who were interviewed in a bitterly contested documentary that suggests that Jesus and his family members were buried in a nondescript ancient Jerusalem burial cave have now revised their conclusions, including the statistician who claimed that the odds were 600:1 in favor of the tomb being the family burial cave of Jesus of Nazareth, a new study on the fallout from the popular documentary shows.

The dramatic clarifications, compiled by epigrapher Stephen Pfann of the University of the Holy Land in Jerusalem in a paper titled "Cracks in the Foundation: How the Lost Tomb of Jesus story is losing its scholarly support," come two months after the screening of The Lost Tomb of Christ that attracted widespread public interest, despite the concomitant scholarly ridicule.

The film, made by Oscar-winning director James Cameron and Emmy-winning Canadian filmmaker Simcha Jacobovici, prompted major criticism from both a leading Israeli archeologist involved in the original dig at the site as well as Christian leaders, who were angered over the documentary's contradictions of main tenets of Christianity.

But now, even some of the scholars who were interviewed for and appeared in the film are questioning some of its basic claims.

The most startling change of opinion featured in the 16-page paper is that of University of Toronto statistician Professor Andrey Feuerverger, who stated those 600 to one odds in the film. Feuerverger now says that these referred to the probability of a cluster of such names appearing together.

Pfann's paper reported that a statement on the Discovery Channel's Web site, which previously read "a statistical study commissioned by the broadcasters...concludes that the probability factor is 600 to 1 in favor of this being the tomb of Jesus of Nazareth and his family," in keeping with Feuerverger's statement, has been altered and now reads, "a statistical study commissioned by the broadcasters... concludes that the probability factor is in the order of 600 to 1 that an equally 'surprising' cluster of names would arise purely by chance under given assumptions."

Another sentence on the same Web site stating that Feuerverger had concluded it was highly probable that the tomb, located in the southeastern residential Jerusalem neighborhood of Talpiot, was the Jesus family tomb - the central point of the film - has also been changed. It now reads: "It is unlikely that an equally surprising cluster of names would have arisen by chance under purely random sampling."

Israeli archeologists have said that the similarity of the names found inscribed on the ossuaries in the cave to the members of Jesus's family was coincidental, since many of those names were commonplace in the first century CE.

The film argues that 10 ancient ossuaries - burial boxes used to store bones - that were discovered in Talpiot in 1980 contained the bones of Jesus and his family. The filmmakers attempt to explain some of the inscriptions on the ossuaries by suggesting that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene, and that the couple had a son, Judah.

One of the ossuaries bears an inscription reading "Yeshua son of Yehosef" or "Jesus son of Joseph;" a second reads "Mary;" a third is a Greek inscription apparently read by one scholar as "Mary Magdalene;" while a fourth bears the inscription, "Judah, son of Jesus." The inscriptions are in Hebrew or Aramaic, except for the one in Greek.

But Shimon Gibson, who was part of the team that excavated the tomb two and half decades ago and who appeared in the film, is quoted in Pfann's report as saying he doubted the site was the tomb of Jesus and his family.

"Personally, I'm skeptical that this is the tomb of Jesus and I made this point very clear to the filmmakers," Gibson is quoted as saying.

"We need much more evidence before we can say that the Talpiot tomb might be the family tomb of Jesus," he added.

In the film, renowned epigrapher Prof. Frank Moore Cross, professor emeritus of Hebrew and oriental languages at Harvard University, is seen reading one of the ossuaries and stating that he has "no real doubt" that it reads "Jesus son of Joseph." But according to Pfann, Cross said in an e-mail that he was skeptical about the film's claims, not because of a misreading of the ossuary, but because of the ubiquity of Biblical names in that period in Jerusalem.

"It has been reckoned that 25 percent of feminine names in this period were Maria/Miriam, etc. - that is, variants of 'Mary.' So the cited statistics are unpersuasive. You know the saying: lies, damned lies, and statistics," Cross is quoted as saying.

The paper also notes that DNA scientist Dr. Carney Matheson, who supervised DNA testing carried out for the film from the supposed Jesus and Mary Magdalene ossuaries, and who said in the documentary that "these two individuals, if they were unrelated, would most likely be husband and wife," later said that "the only conclusions we made were that these two sets were not maternally related. To me, it sounds like absolutely nothing."

Furthermore, Pfann also says that a specialist in ancient apocryphal text, Professor Francois Bovon, who is quoted in the film as saying the enigmatic ossuary inscription "Mariamne" is the same woman known as Mary Magdalene - one of the filmmakers' critical arguments - issued a disclaimer stating that he did not believe that "Mariamne" stood for Mary of Magdalene at all.

Pfann has already argued that the controversial inscription does not read "Mariamne" at all.

The burial site, which has been contested from the start by scholars and church officials alike, is some distance from the Church of the Holy Sepulchrr in the Old City, where many Christians believe Jesus's body lay for three days after he was crucified.

According to the New Testament, Jesus rose from the dead on the third day after his crucifixion, and an ossuary containing Jesus's bones - the explanations of the movie director notwithstanding - would contradict the core Christian belief that he was resurrected and then ascended to heaven.

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Title: Re: Jesus tomb film scholars backtrack
Post by: Shammu on April 13, 2007, 01:30:09 AM
I have watched Simcha Jacobovici, he knows just enough of the new Testament to mis-lead Christians. Simcha Jacobovici, by the way, is Jewish.


Title: Re: Jesus tomb film scholars backtrack
Post by: nChrist on April 13, 2007, 08:03:51 AM
Hello Dreamweaver,

Brother, I tried to follow this story some, and the term "Scholar" can't be associated with this story. I simply considered it to be a cheap attack by the devil on the Bible and JESUS CHRIST.

It does appear that the devil is desperate to create all possible doubts in people about JESUS CHRIST. After all, JESUS CHRIST is the devil's worst nightmare and the ONLY WAY for Salvation. More and more, I do think that we are nearing the end of this age of Grace, so the time grows short for the lost to accept JESUS CHRIST as LORD and SAVIOUR. BUT, despite the devil's best efforts, lost people are still accepting CHRIST every day.

If one thinks about it, the devil has mounted a series of attacks recently, and the focus is the ONLY ONE who can Save people from the curse of sin and death, JESUS CHRIST. The Da Vinci Code is just one other example, and I'm positive there will be more to come.

The facts are really simple: The HOLY BIBLE is COMPLETE TRUTH - GOD'S WORD, and JESUS CHRIST lives. The knowledge and acceptance of JESUS CHRIST and the CROSS defeats the devil. If anyone lost is reading this, it's time for you to accept JESUS CHRIST as your personal LORD and SAVIOUR. There is no other way to be saved from the eternal curse of sin and punishment that we all so richly deserve. JESUS waits for you with open arms, and HE wants to forgive you of your sins. Friends, the time is now - don't wait another day.

The day may come soon when JESUS CHRIST will come again to earth. This time, it won't be to die on the CROSS for sinful men. JESUS CHRIST will come with HOLY WRATH and pour out HIS WRATH on evil. The patience of our Loving LORD and SAVIOUR will end, and HE will come with a terrible, swift sword. No power will be able to stand against HIM. The devil will be locked away to await his final punishment, and the survivors of the earth will be under total subjection of JESUS CHRIST, the KING OF KINGS and LORD OF HOSTS.


Love In Christ,
Tom