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Title: A Contradiction?!
Post by: Debp on March 30, 2007, 02:13:25 AM
I guess the rest of the USA also gets those awful Carl's Jr commercials where they are flaunting sex rather than simply trying to sell their food.

The latest commercial "stars" a young woman that is wiping a table in a sexy manner and wearing a revealing top while she and a male customer are eyeing each other.

Well, last night I saw this young woman being interviewed on the news.....she had been in season 2 of American Idol and said she was still interested in her singing career.  Then she proceeded to start singing Amazing Grace.....I'm all for singing Amazing Grace, but her "performance" as the sexy waitress (in my opinion) contradicts what she was singing.  No wonder some other religious groups get the wrong idea about Christians.



Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: Soldier4Christ on March 30, 2007, 04:22:55 AM
It is unfortunate that many Christians will compromise in such a manner in order to get worldly fame and money. I agree, many people get the wrong idea about Christians because of such actions.



Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: mississippi_jesus_chic on March 30, 2007, 11:53:59 PM
It is unfortunate that many Christians will compromise in such a manner in order to get worldly fame and money. I agree, many people get the wrong idea about Christians because of such actions.


"No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.
Matthew 6:24

You can't serve God and money, even though so many people try to.  This girl really needs prayer.  By singing "Amazing Grace" she's representing herself as a Christian.  NO Christian should conduct themselves the way that Debp described from the commercial.  That makes a really bad name for Christians.  Non Christians are just looking for things like that to hold against us.  The world is just waiting for us to mess up so they can say "this person did that and they claim to be a Christian, I thought Christians were supposed to be good and holy!"  People are just looking for ways to incriminate Christians.  We don't need to open up opportunities for them to do this.


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: Debp on March 31, 2007, 01:28:36 AM
Amen, Pastor Roger and Mississippi_Jesus_Chic.

I wish Carl's Jr would get a new advertising agency.  All of their commercials have this sexual bent to them.....the one with Paris Hilton was the worst....unbelievable!!  Alot of people complained about that one and it was taken off of the air eventually.





Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: Soldier4Christ on March 31, 2007, 04:41:37 AM
Unfortunately there are many commercials of this nature. It seems to be getting worse by the day and it isn't just in the commercials. People that claim to be Christians are participating in these things more and more. It is a sad situation and it does Christianity a major injustice by these people representing themselves as such. We see many politicians that claim to be Christian yet they are not taking a stand for Jesus. Instead they are supporting the things of this world through there votes and the bills that they are initiating.



Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: nChrist on March 31, 2007, 04:49:49 AM
I would do more than guess that the executives of Carl's Jr. knew all about this, approved this, and decided this was the direction they wanted to go in advertising. So, I think the problem is with Carl's Jr., not the advertising agency. The advertising agency simply gives the client a range of ideas and try to satisfy the client with what they want. Carl's Jr. didn't just turn the advertising agency loose to do what they wanted to without approval.

As an old square, I would probably take my business elsewhere and spend what little money I have in places with moral values. The only argument I have with myself is that local stores many times don't share the values of the big corporate office. Things like this should be given some consideration when large chains or franchises are involved. In some cases, the owners of the local outlet or franchise are just as upset as the general public is. Regardless, we can't just ignore things like this, so we can at least let the local outlet know how we feel and why. In many cases, we simply need to take our business elsewhere.


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: Debp on March 31, 2007, 10:38:22 PM
I would do more than guess that the executives of Carl's Jr. knew all about this, approved this, and decided this was the direction they wanted to go in advertising. So, I think the problem is with Carl's Jr., not the advertising agency. The advertising agency simply gives the client a range of ideas and try to satisfy the client with what they want. Carl's Jr. didn't just turn the advertising agency loose to do what they wanted to without approval.

As an old square, I would probably take my business elsewhere and spend what little money I have in places with moral values. The only argument I have with myself is that local stores many times don't share the values of the big corporate office. Things like this should be given some consideration when large chains or franchises are involved. In some cases, the owners of the local outlet or franchise are just as upset as the general public is. Regardless, we can't just ignore things like this, so we can at least let the local outlet know how we feel and why. In many cases, we simply need to take our business elsewhere.

Once in a while I used to get a spicy chicken sandwich at Carl's Jr, but otherwise I don't like their food.  And, now, since these commercials are so bad, I haven't been going there.  I do like Jack in the Box....they have great salads.  The Jack in the Box is further, but worth the extra walk.


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: mississippi_jesus_chic on March 31, 2007, 11:31:06 PM
You know, if those commercials had been out 50 years ago, the entire country would be in an uproar over it.  But over the years people have gotten to the point to where they just don't care. 


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: Debp on April 01, 2007, 12:04:35 AM
You know, if those commercials had been out 50 years ago, the entire country would be in an uproar over it.  But over the years people have gotten to the point to where they just don't care. 

Actually, I think people would have been upset over them even ten years ago.  The Paris Hilton one really created alot of complaints and that was just this past year.  I don't know if you all get these Carl's Jr commercials, but they are more like soft porn....perhaps they change them a bit for other areas of the USA.


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: Brother Jerry on April 01, 2007, 12:06:41 AM
Took me a moment to understand what Carls Jr. was....until you described the commercial....then I knew

They are called Hardee's down here in the south...Unless it is Jack's we do not eat at fast food named after a man :)


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: nChrist on April 01, 2007, 02:48:13 AM
Brothers and Sisters,

I have a hard time understanding why anyone would do an advertising campaign using Paris Hilton. This just doesn't sound very intelligent.


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: Debp on April 01, 2007, 07:43:04 PM
Brothers and Sisters,

I have a hard time understanding why anyone would do an advertising campaign using Paris Hilton. This just doesn't sound very intelligent.

No, it's not very intelligent to have Paris Hilton washing down a car and herself in a skimpy swimsuit.....in order to sell hamburgers!!!  ???  You know for people out in Los Angeles to complain, it was really bad!!


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: mississippi_jesus_chic on April 01, 2007, 11:11:52 PM
Took me a moment to understand what Carls Jr. was....until you described the commercial....then I knew

They are called Hardee's down here in the south...Unless it is Jack's we do not eat at fast food named after a man :)

I'm glad that someone brought out that this was the same thing as Hardee's.  I live in the south, and I had never heard of Carl's Jr.  But no matter what company, the point is still the same.  Why would someone want to show 3/4 naked women on tv to sell fast food?  For some reason this doesn't even make any sense to me!  Around here, if you show a big juicy half-pound burger loaded with onions and tomatoes with a good cold drink, you can get plenty of people in your store.  Maybe that's just because Mississippi is 50 years behind everyone else!  Either way, nudity is not necessary to advertise anything!


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: Soldier4Christ on April 01, 2007, 11:45:46 PM
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Either way, nudity is not necessary to advertise anything!

Except for evil itself.

We did have Hardees and Carls Jr's both here at one time. All the Carls Jr's closed down and now just the Hardees are here. When I decide to go out for a meal I go to a small family restaurant that is run by a Christian family. It is quiet and kind of home like. The burgers they serve are large and moist without the dripping grease and I can have it my way  .... lot's of everything on it. My grandkids love it there also.


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: Brother Jerry on April 02, 2007, 12:25:09 AM
Amen.

There is nothing that wets my appetite better than seeing the food right there on tv.  No need to dress it up with anything else other than the food and the price :)



Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: russ44k on April 02, 2007, 08:10:52 AM
I thought Hardies was Carl Jr.I'm from Calif ,then 10+ years a go moved to Neb. There are many adds that 20 years ago wouldn't fly ,with the moral and ethical erosion of America this is what we as a nation get.Many sport figures  stars  wear a cross's and yet there values would be less than Christian.I think as believers in Jesus  as our LORD AND SAVIOR we need to fervently pray for our country.


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: Debp on April 02, 2007, 06:49:34 PM
Amen.

There is nothing that wets my appetite better than seeing the food right there on tv.  No need to dress it up with anything else other than the food and the price :)



I agree, the food sells itself.  Most other restaurants here in Los Angeles show the food....makes me want to go there, even though I won't (can't get to some of them).


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: Debp on April 02, 2007, 06:52:34 PM
Except for evil itself.

We did have Hardees and Carls Jr's both here at one time. All the Carls Jr's closed down and now just the Hardees are here. When I decide to go out for a meal I go to a small family restaurant that is run by a Christian family. It is quiet and kind of home like. The burgers they serve are large and moist without the dripping grease and I can have it my way  .... lot's of everything on it. My grandkids love it there also.

Sounds like a great place, and it's nice you can support a Christian family business.   What state are you in?  Just curious.


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: Debp on April 02, 2007, 06:54:46 PM
I thought Hardies was Carl Jr.I'm from Calif ,then 10+ years a go moved to Neb. There are many adds that 20 years ago wouldn't fly ,with the moral and ethical erosion of America this is what we as a nation get.Many sport figures  stars  wear a cross's and yet there values would be less than Christian.I think as believers in Jesus  as our LORD AND SAVIOR we need to fervently pray for our country.

It seems like people are either really walking with the Lord or not walking with the Lord....at least out here in Los Angeles.  Maybe when there is alot of evil around, alot of Christians draw nearer to Christ?


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: russ44k on April 02, 2007, 07:41:21 PM
There is evil allover the place and as Christians we should be or at least in my life this is what I try to do Is prepair for the days battle by reading Gods word and prayer.In Matthew 12 : 30 says " He who is not with Me (Jesus)  is against ME ;and he who does not gather with Me scatters.[NASB}
With that verse in mind we are eather for Christ or against Him. Its a shame that people will wear items that are linked to Christianity but there actions speak loader and we as belivers pay the price .


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: Shammu on April 04, 2007, 11:55:59 AM
Amen.

There is nothing that wets my appetite better than seeing the food right there on tv.  No need to dress it up with anything else other than the food and the price :)


I rather see it on my table......... ;) 

I do agree that people, are falling away from God.  Just as the Bible says this would happen.


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: mississippi_jesus_chic on April 05, 2007, 11:45:06 PM
Sometimes I wonder if we are fulfilling some of the prophecies that were told about the times before the rapture.  I think that our world is getting worse off everyday. 

People really need to clean their act up and at least act like they are somewhat civilized.  Why show a naked woman to get folks to buy a burger?  I mean, think about it, how does that even tie together?!  Nudity is not necessary!!!  I think that this is a point that too many people need to try to understand.


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: airIam2worship on April 06, 2007, 08:57:21 AM
Deb, we don't have Carl's Jr here in Fl, but Paris Hilton wore a very Slinky bikini, for a burger king or McDonalds or one of those commercials not sure which, but let me tell you something the camera was not focused on the hamburger buns. I think commercials like this are a disgrace. And I think they ought to be stopped.

I have stopped going to places like this just to boycott them, I would rather spend an extra $10 and take my girls to a family restaurant where they can have a good meal and the ads are family oriented. It is a Christian restaurant even closes on Sundays.

We as Christians have to help other Christian business grow and get the money we would otherwise spend in places that promote, sexuality and immorality to our children.  There are tons ob Christians who own their businesses. I don't know about other churches, but our church has a phone book that has nothing but Christian business listed. These are places where we know we are going to get the best service and we are not only helping out Borthers and Sisters, but we also are helping God's kingdom.


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: Debp on April 06, 2007, 08:21:21 PM
Deb, we don't have Carl's Jr here in Fl, but Paris Hilton wore a very Slinky bikini, for a burger king or McDonalds or one of those commercials not sure which, but let me tell you something the camera was not focused on the hamburger buns. I think commercials like this are a disgrace. And I think they ought to be stopped.

I have stopped going to places like this just to boycott them, I would rather spend an extra $10 and take my girls to a family restaurant where they can have a good meal and the ads are family oriented. It is a Christian restaurant even closes on Sundays.

We as Christians have to help other Christian business grow and get the money we would otherwise spend in places that promote, sexuality and immorality to our children.  There are tons ob Christians who own their businesses. I don't know about other churches, but our church has a phone book that has nothing but Christian business listed. These are places where we know we are going to get the best service and we are not only helping out Borthers and Sisters, but we also are helping God's kingdom.


Sounds like the same commercial....only they finally took it off here as so many people were complaining about it!

That's nice about the phone book your church puts out.  What state are you in?  Here in Los Angeles, it's so big and so many different types of ethnic groups, etc.


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: friend on May 10, 2007, 01:03:01 AM
Is Hooters any better?  My boyfriend goes there a lot, but tells me he doesn't even notice the half naked girls.   :o Here again is a food chain using sex and beautiful girls to bring in the money.  Should christians even darken the door, let alone work there? 


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: nChrist on May 10, 2007, 01:26:45 AM
Hello Friend,

WELCOME!

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I look forward to reading your posts and having fellowship with you.

The answers to your questions about Hooters are an obvious "NO!" I'll take my wife, kids, and grandkids to a place for Christian families, and we will pray before our meals. If the place isn't designed for our use, we probably aren't really welcome there anyway. Regardless, we won't be eating in a place like that. I would go hungry first.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Matthew 18:20 NASB  "For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst."


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: Debp on May 10, 2007, 01:38:54 AM
Is Hooters any better?  My boyfriend goes there a lot, but tells me he doesn't even notice the half naked girls.   :o Here again is a food chain using sex and beautiful girls to bring in the money.  Should christians even darken the door, let alone work there? 


Hi, welcome to you!

No, I don't think Christians should work at Hooter's.....we should not entice men to sin.  And I don't think we should go there to eat either.


Title: Re: A Contradiction?!
Post by: Soldier4Christ on May 10, 2007, 09:15:47 AM
Hi friend,

Welcome to Christians Unite.

I agree, the answer is, NO! They should not get our encouragement nor our money.