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BBC show exposes global warming 'lies' 
Documentary's scientists, climatologists agree: 'The whole thing stinks'

"THE ICE IS MELTING," blares the opening headline in the latest TV documentary on global warming. Amid thunderous music and video bites of furious ocean waves, melting glaciers and tornadoes, the headlines continue:

"THE SEA IS RISING."

"HURRICANES ARE BLOWING."

"AND IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT."

But then, the dramatic BBC documentary deviates from the rest of today's dire presentations on impending global-warming disaster. The headlines continue:

"SCARED?"

"DON'T BE."

"IT'S NOT TRUE."

In "The Great Global Warming Swindle," British TV director Martin Durkin interviews scientist after scientist who claim the current hysteria over global warming is, in a word, nonsense.

Here's how the announcer introduces the controversy at the outset of the 60-minute program:

    "Manmade global warming is no longer just a theory about climate change. It is the defining moral and political cause of our age. Campaigners say the time for debate is over. Any criticism, no matter how scientifically rigorous, is illegitimate – even worse, dangerous.

    "But in this film, it will be shown that the earth's climate is always changing, that there is nothing unusual about the current temperature, and that the scientific evidence does not support the notion that climate is driven by carbon dioxide, manmade or otherwise.

    "Everywhere, you are told that manmade climate change is proved beyond doubt.

    "But you are being told lies."

Currently, the video is going viral in the online world, and threatens to break the stranglehold that global-warming hysteria has on the world's major media.

But what's behind the hysteria?

The current edition of WND's popular Whistleblower magazine – titled "HYSTERIA: Exposing the secret agenda behind today's obsession with global warming" – reveals why so many scientists, journalists and others are so gripped by global warming fever.

Whistleblower shows how all the main players – from politicians and scientists to big corporations and the United Nations – benefit from instilling fear into billions of human beings over the unproven theory of man-made global warming. Indeed, just three weeks after the U.N. ratcheted up international fears over global warming, a panel of 18 scientists from 11 countries has now reported to the U.N. that the only thing that can stop catastrophic climate change is a global tax.

WOW! - I think that most people knew from the beginning that all of this "global warming" fear-mongering was a complete hoax, and now we find out that it was all about a global tax. They can forget about the global tax and any other global plans they might have. In my opinion, I think it is far past time to send the U.N. home and stop spending a penny of taxpayer money to keep the completely corrupt organization afloat. BUT, I'm far too shy on this subject.   ;)

Yep.   ;) ;D ;D

The UN needed to be disbanded a long time ago as a worthless organization.

Afghanistan, Iraq, Serbia, Palestine, Zimbabwe, Somalia, Côte d'Ivoire - America has chosen to associate herself with that "elite" group who haven't succumbed to "global warming" hysteria.

The word is "not yet". There is however those in Congress that do want to ratify it and so do some of those that are currently running for President.

Business Environmental Leadership Council (BELC)
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 BELC Company GHG Reduction Targets

The Pew Center's Business Environmental Leadership Council (BELC) was created at the Center’s inception under the belief that business engagement is critical for developing efficient, effective solutions to the climate problem.  We
also believe that companies taking early action on climate strategies and policy will gain sustained competitive advantage over their peers. 

The BELC is now the largest U.S.-based association of corporations focused on addressing the challenges
of climate change, with 42 members representing $2.4 trillion in market capitalization and over 3.3 million employees.

 ABB
 Air Products
 Alcan
 Alcoa Inc.
 American Electric Power
 Bank of America
 Baxter International Inc.
 The Boeing Company
 BP
 California Portland Cement Co.
 CH2M HILL
 Cummins Inc.
 Deutsche Telekom
 DTE Energy
 Duke Energy
 DuPont
 Entergy
 Exelon
 GE
 Georgia-Pacific
 Hewlett-Packard Company
 Holcim (US) Inc.
 IBM
 Intel
 Interface Inc.
 John Hancock Financial
 Lockheed Martin
 Marsh, Inc.
 Novartis
 Ontario Power Generation
 PG&E Corporation
 Rio Tinto
 Rohm and Haas
 Royal Dutch/Shell
 SC Johnson
 Sunoco
 Toyota
 TransAlta
 United Technologies
 Weyerhaeuser
 Whirlpool Corporation
 Wisconsin Energy
http://www.pewclimate.org/companies_leading_the_way_belc/company_profiles/index.cfm

Corporations with a combined total of 3.3 million employees and $2.4 trillion in market capitalization have the personel and scientific expertise to evaluate whether "global warming" is "hysteria" or based on the best scientific research available.

In addition to the general concensus of the world scientific community, can the "global warming" skeptics also match the scientific and corporate resources available to BELC ?

Or is that they have the desire to capitalize on global warming hysteria. As it has already been said those that go along with this climate change theory all have something to gain from it.

Scientists that have nothing to gain in either direction are the ones that have dispelled the global warming theories.

For us that are Christians we have the promise of God that we will have a change of seasons as long as the earth exists.


Gen 8:22  While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

I would wonder how many of these companies stand to profit from a new global tax in some way. Something is beginning to stink here, most especially Al Gore and the U.N.

I could see that the wool could be pulled over the eyes of some companies and other companies with customary ties to environmental groups. I know there are some well-meaning environmental groups, but it does make one wonder when they and well-known companies are tied to a massive hoax like this and global taxes. I'll just go ahead and say that I think Al Gore knew it was a hoax from the very beginning. Did you hear that Al?   ;D

This really isn't much of a laughing matter because they did plan to swindle us out of tons of money. I think that charges need to be filed against Al Gore and others.

ABB produces environmentally friendly motors, generators, drives and power electronics products etc.

Air Products produces hydrogen related products (including hydrogen fuel stations) and other environmentally friendly devices.

Alcan receives numerous tax exemptions for being environmentally friendly. It also produces environmentally frindly products such as Solar Cookers.

This is just to name a few on the list.

"We don't have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand."
-James Watt, Secretary of the Interior during the Regan years.
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1. Are you contending the the scientific community and the following members of the BELC are part of an international conspiracy ?
 
ABB
 Air Products
 Alcan
 Alcoa Inc.
 American Electric Power
 Bank of America
 Baxter International Inc.
 The Boeing Company
 BP
 California Portland Cement Co.
 CH2M HILL
 Cummins Inc.
 Deutsche Telekom
 DTE Energy
 Duke Energy
 DuPont
 Entergy
 Exelon
 GE
 Georgia-Pacific
 Hewlett-Packard Company
 Holcim (US) Inc.
 IBM
 Intel
 Interface Inc.
 John Hancock Financial
 Lockheed Martin
 Marsh, Inc.
 Novartis
 Ontario Power Generation
 PG&E Corporation
 Rio Tinto
 Rohm and Haas
 Royal Dutch/Shell
 SC Johnson
 Sunoco
 Toyota
 TransAlta
 United Technologies
 Weyerhaeuser
 Whirlpool Corporation
 Wisconsin Energy

2. Can you produce the names and findings of some of these scientists who have "nothing to gain in either direction."

3. " 8: And ye shall keep my statutes, and do them: I am the LORD which sanctify you.
   9: For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.'
-Leviticus 20:8-9

Can Christians quote Genesis 8:22 but not Leviticus 20:9 ?

As stated in my above posts they all have their objectives and reasons for doing what they are doing.


What does this have to do with the subject?

As for the scientists mentioned some of them are named in the BBC show.

jgarden,

I don't follow your line of thinking at all with the Scriptures that you quoted.

If you are saying that you believe the global warming hoax, maybe you can get a job with the elect Al Gore bunch. I don't believe it and never did. The reasons are a laughing matter. We don't cause solar storms and flares from earth. If we did, emissions from cows would need to be the first thing brought under control.

Or perhaps a job defining the cause of global warming on Mars.

 :D :D :D :D

Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says

Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet's recent climate changes have a natural—and not a human-induced—cause, according to one scientist's controversial theory.

Earth is currently experiencing rapid warming, which the vast majority of climate scientists says is due to humans pumping huge amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures.

In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row.

Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of space research at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun.

"The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars," he said.

Solar Cycles

Abdussamatov believes that changes in the sun's heat output can account for almost all the climate changes we see on both planets.

Mars and Earth, for instance, have experienced periodic ice ages throughout their histories.

By studying fluctuations in the warmth of the sun, Abdussamatov believes he can see a pattern that fits with the ups and downs in climate we see on Earth and Mars.

60 Scientists Debunk Global Warming Fears

Earlier this year, a group of prominent scientists came forward to question the so-called “consensus” that the Earth faces a “climate emergency.” On April 6, 2006, 60 scientists wrote a letter to the Canadian Prime Minister asserting that the science is deteriorating from underneath global warming alarmists.

“Observational evidence does not support today's computer climate models, so there is little reason to trust model predictions of the future…Significant [scientific] advances have been made since the [Kyoto] protocol was created, many of which are taking us away from a concern about increasing greenhouse gases. If, back in the mid-1990s, we knew what we know today about climate, Kyoto would almost certainly not exist, because we would have concluded it was not necessary,” the 60 scientists wrote.

“It was only 30 years ago that many of today's global-warming alarmists were telling us that the world was in the midst of a global-cooling catastrophe. But the science continued to evolve, and still does, even though so many choose to ignore it when it does not fit with predetermined political agendas,” the 60 scientists concluded.

This is just a few of the scientists that disagree with global warming:

Dr. Ian D. Clark, professor, isotope hydrogeology and paleoclimatology, Dept. of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa

Dr. Tad Murty, former senior research scientist, Dept. of Fisheries and Oceans, former director of Australia's National Tidal Facility and professor of earth sciences, Flinders University, Adelaide; currently adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa

Dr. R. Timothy Patterson, professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences (paleoclimatology), Carleton University, Ottawa

Dr. Fred Michel, director, Institute of Environmental Science and associate professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences, Carleton University, Ottawa

Dr. Madhav Khandekar, former research scientist, Environment Canada. Member of editorial board of Climate Research and Natural Hazards

Dr. Paul Copper, FRSC, professor emeritus, Dept. of Earth Sciences, Laurentian University, Sudbury, Ont.

Dr. Ross McKitrick, associate professor, Dept. of Economics, University of Guelph, Ont.

Dr. Tim Ball, former professor of climatology, University of Winnipeg; environmental consultant

Dr. Andreas Prokoph, adjunct professor of earth sciences, University of Ottawa; consultant in statistics and geology

Mr. David Nowell, M.Sc. (Meteorology), fellow of the Royal Meteorological Society, Canadian member and past chairman of the NATO Meteorological Group, Ottawa

Dr. Christopher Essex, professor of applied mathematics and associate director of the Program in Theoretical Physics, University of Western Ontario, London, Ont.

Dr. Gordon E. Swaters, professor of applied mathematics, Dept. of Mathematical Sciences, and member, Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Research Group, University of Alberta

Dr. L. Graham Smith, associate professor, Dept. of Geography, University of Western Ontario, London, Ont.

Dr. G. Cornelis van Kooten, professor and Canada Research Chair in environmental studies and climate change, Dept. of Economics, University of Victoria

Dr. Petr Chylek, adjunct professor, Dept. of Physics and Atmospheric Science, Dalhousie University, Halifax

Dr./Cdr. M. R. Morgan, FRMS, climate consultant, former meteorology advisor to the World Meteorological Organization. Previously research scientist in climatology at University of Exeter, U.K.

Dr. Keith D. Hage, climate consultant and professor emeritus of Meteorology, University of Alberta

Dr. David E. Wojick, P.Eng., energy consultant, Star Tannery, Va., and Sioux Lookout, Ont.

Rob Scagel, M.Sc., forest microclimate specialist, principal consultant, Pacific Phytometric Consultants, Surrey, B.C.

Dr. Douglas Leahey, meteorologist and air-quality consultant, Calgary

Paavo Siitam, M.Sc., agronomist, chemist, Cobourg, Ont.

Dr. Chris de Freitas, climate scientist, associate professor, The University of Auckland, N.Z.

Dr. Richard S. Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan professor of meteorology, Dept. of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Dr. Freeman J. Dyson, emeritus professor of physics, Institute for Advanced Studies, Princeton, N.J.

Mr. George Taylor, Dept. of Meteorology, Oregon State University; Oregon State climatologist; past president, American Association of State Climatologists

Dr. Ian Plimer, professor of geology, School of Earth and Environmental Sciences, University of Adelaide; emeritus professor of earth sciences, University of Melbourne, Australia

Dr. R.M. Carter, professor, Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University, Townsville, Australia

Mr. William Kininmonth, Australasian Climate Research, former Head National Climate Centre, Australian Bureau of Meteorology; former Australian delegate to World Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology, Scientific and Technical Review

Dr. Hendrik Tennekes, former director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute

Dr. Gerrit J. van der Lingen, geologist/paleoclimatologist, Climate Change Consultant, Geoscience Research and Investigations, New Zealand

Dr. Patrick J. Michaels, professor of environmental sciences, University of Virginia

Dr. Nils-Axel Morner, emeritus professor of paleogeophysics & geodynamics, Stockholm University, Stockholm, Sweden

Dr. Gary D. Sharp, Center for Climate/Ocean Resources Study, Salinas, Calif.

Dr. Roy W. Spencer, principal research scientist, Earth System Science Center, The University of Alabama, Huntsville

Dr. Al Pekarek, associate professor of geology, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences Dept., St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, Minn.

Dr. Marcel Leroux, professor emeritus of climatology, University of Lyon, France; former director of Laboratory of Climatology, Risks and Environment, CNRS

Dr. Paul Reiter, professor, Institut Pasteur, Unit of Insects and Infectious Diseases, Paris, France. Expert reviewer, IPCC Working group II, chapter 8 (human health)

Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski, physicist and chairman, Scientific Council of Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection, Warsaw, Poland

Dr. Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen, reader, Dept. of Geography, University of Hull, U.K.; editor, Energy & Environment

Dr. Hans H.J. Labohm, former advisor to the executive board, Clingendael Institute (The Netherlands Institute of International Relations) and an economist who has focused on climate change

Dr. Lee C. Gerhard, senior scientist emeritus, University of Kansas, past director and state geologist, Kansas Geological Survey

Dr. Asmunn Moene, past head of the Forecasting Centre, Meteorological Institute, Norway

Dr. August H. Auer, past professor of atmospheric science, University of Wyoming; previously chief meteorologist, Meteorological Service (MetService) of New Zealand

Dr. Vincent Gray, expert reviewer for the IPCC and author of The Greenhouse Delusion: A Critique of 'Climate Change 2001,' Wellington, N.Z.

Dr. Howard Hayden, emeritus professor of physics, University of Connecticut

Dr Benny Peiser, professor of social anthropology, Faculty of Science, Liverpool John Moores University, U.K.

Dr. Jack Barrett, chemist and spectroscopist, formerly with Imperial College London, U.K.

Dr. William J.R. Alexander, professor emeritus, Dept. of Civil and Biosystems Engineering, University of Pretoria, South Africa. Member, United Nations Scientific and Technical Committee on Natural Disasters, 1994-2000

Dr. S. Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences, University of Virginia; former director, U.S. Weather Satellite Service

Dr. Harry N.A. Priem, emeritus professor of planetary geology and isotope geophysics, Utrecht University; former director of the Netherlands Institute for Isotope Geosciences; past president of the Royal Netherlands Geological & Mining Society

Dr. Robert H. Essenhigh, E.G. Bailey professor of energy conversion, Dept. of Mechanical Engineering, The Ohio State University

Dr. Sallie Baliunas, astrophysicist and climate researcher, Boston, Mass.

Douglas Hoyt, senior scientist at Raytheon (retired) and co-author of the book The Role of the Sun in Climate Change; previously with NCAR, NOAA, and the World Radiation Center, Davos, Switzerland

Dipl.-Ing. Peter Dietze, independent energy advisor and scientific climate and carbon modeller, official IPCC reviewer, Bavaria, Germany

Dr. Boris Winterhalter, senior marine researcher (retired), Geological Survey of Finland, former professor in marine geology, University of Helsinki, Finland

Dr. Wibjorn Karlen, emeritus professor, Dept. of Physical Geography and Quaternary Geology, Stockholm University, Sweden

Dr. Hugh W. Ellsaesser, physicist/meteorologist, previously with the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Calif.; atmospheric consultant.

Dr. Art Robinson, founder, Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, Cave Junction, Ore.

Dr. Arthur Rorsch, emeritus professor of molecular genetics, Leiden University, The Netherlands; past board member, Netherlands organization for applied research (TNO) in environmental, food and public health

Dr. Alister McFarquhar, Downing College, Cambridge, U.K.; international economist

Dr. Richard S. Courtney, climate and atmospheric science consultant, IPCC expert reviewer, U.K.

I'm not a scientist, but I do wonder if greatly increased solar activity could have anything to do with warming. In terms of HEAT, those solar storms and flares pack a wallop. If they didn't have an effect on earth, I wouldn't understand WHY NOT. I'm not a scientist, but this would seem to be a matter of common sense.

 ???   ::)   :D   ;D   :o   8)

I think that many scientist throw common sense out the window when money is involved.  :D :D

 ;D

The below is a video taken from a recent global warming convention.

rofl  ...  that looks like a repeat of the evolutionists convention. Oh, wait it is the same as the evolutionists convention.

GOD IS IN CONTROL


Ice Age Predicted, Blamed on Global Warming

Scientist (cough) are now predicting an ice age in Europe... And they blame it on global warming. Better- they base the whole prediction on one set of ocean temps they did not expect.


Stop the tape... A dramatic FINDING? This is not a finding. It is a conclusion at best but more accurately a prediction. The -finding- is that some temps were not what researchers thought they were going to measure. Everything after that is conjecture.

Never let the media confuse a finding with a prediction.


Bogus New Alert! When the third sentence of a news story says "See, this proves we should agree to Kyoto" the whole story is officially suspect.


In the first 2 paragraphs it was a done deal.. It was a FINDING for goodness sake... Now we learn that the researcher has no clue if this is even a temporary change or not? Maybe that haste over Kyoto was misplaced?


So.... You got some data you did not expect... From there -someone- (it's unclear who from the story) FOUND that we were going to have an ice age if we don't agree to Kyoto. This is getting thinner by the minute.

They get data they did not expect, they have no idea why it happened or if it is just temporary or not but by golly there is an ice age acoming and we better sign Kyoto. Talk about putting several carts before a single horse.

El Niño warms the water in the Pacific every 4 or 5 years and we've known of this cycle for over 400 years. [Long before the evil United States] Could it be that maybe -just maybe- something like this might happen elsewhere on the planet? (gasp)

No, we won't look at unexpected data and wonder why we were wrong, we now look at unexpected data and draw conclusions. If we didn't know the temps were going to be that high, how can we explain why they were AND use them to predict what it means for the future?

This article commented on was printed in the New Scientist on 30 November 2005, supposedly a very reliable scientific source. Another article printed in "Nature News" on Nov 22, 2006 tells us that "Russian scientists predict new Ice Age in 50 years". This article is based on researchers with the Russian Academy of Sciences. It seems to me that the scientists are totally confused. Global warming or ice age. (Also if we remember right, the last hurricane season was supposed to be worse than the one just prior to it.) The truth of the matter is that these predictions are based on limited data, some erroneous, some guessing, that these scientist have entered into a computer model. Take note that it is being called "Climate Change" now instead of global warming because they have no real idea of what is going to happen.

Another factual matter is that in approximately 6,000 years this planet has existed it has undergone many dramatic changes from a perfect paradise, to being completely flooded, to having a major portion of it frozen, to what we have today. Scientist cannot predict the weather correctly just one day in advance. What makes them think that can correctly predict years into the future. God has promised us that "Gen 8:22  While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease." God is in control and things will go according to His will no matter what scientist have to say about it and no matter what man may try to do to change it.

Isa 45:18  For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

Jer 32:27  Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?

Mal 3:6  For I am the LORD, I change not;  ....

Whistleblower Magazine

associated with WorldNetDaily (WND) - contributors include Pat Buchanan, Ann Coulter, David Limbaugh (Rush's brother)
- majority ownership by Western Journalism Center and Joseph Farah - 75 other private shareholders

Western Jouralism Center - founded by Joseph Farah who co-authored book with Rush Limbaugh and worked on Arkansas Project to impeach Clinton
- received $330 000 grant from Richard Mellon Scaife (Carthage Foundation)

Richard Mellon Scaife
- a major, early supporter of the Heritage Foundation, which has since become one of Washington's most influential public policy research institutes. Later, he supported such varied conservative and libertarian organizations as:

American Enterprise Institute
Atlas Economic Research Foundation
Center for the Study of Popular Culture (headed by David Horowitz)
Federalist Society
Foundation for Economic Education
Free Congress Foundation (headed by Paul Weyrich)
Freedom House
GOPAC (headed by Newt Gingrich)
Independent Women's Forum
Intercollegiate Studies Institute (which operates the Collegiate Network)
Judicial Watch
Landmark Legal Foundation
Media Research Center (headed by Brent Bozell)
Pacific Legal Foundation
Pittsburgh World Affairs Council
Reason Foundation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Mellon_Scaife

- by 1998 his foundations were listed among donors to over 100 such groups, to which he had disbursed some $340 million by 2002.
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Based on its background, Whistleblower Magazine has a definite "right wing" agenda and hardly an unbiased source.
Solar cycles, melting on Mars, eating soy - not exactly a reflection of mainstream science.

"WorldNetDaily published an article in December 2006 written by Jim Rutz of "Megashift Ministries" where he claimed that eating soy at a young age increases the chance that a child will be gay, and that soy's estrogen content will feminize a young boy.
Such claims are contradicted by research done by scientists at the University of Pennsylvania.
The article was referenced by Frank Rich in a New York Times op-ed piece on December 17, 2006, describing the reaction to homosexuality in the Republican Party.
The liberal advocacy organization People For the American Way mocked Rutz's claims in their online "RightWing Watch" feature, commenting "sometimes you just have to marvel at the things published by WorldNetDaily."
In response to the interest in the article, WorldNetDaily later published columns by Rutz providing documentation to back up his claims."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldNetDaily

You only discounted the reporting agency. It has nothing to do with what the individual scientists have to say. More important than that is it has nothing to do with what the scriptures has to say on the matter. The final authority in all matters is God.

Read reply # 18, especially the last portion of it.

FRED SINGER

- accused of conflicts of interest, most notably involving financial ties to oil and tobacco companies  (Philip Morris)

- 1994 - co-authored report attacking EPA regulation of environmental tobacco smoke funded by the Tobacco Institute

- involved with the International Center for a Scientific Ecology, a group  considered important in Philip Morris' plans to create a group in Europe similar to The Advancement of Sound Science Coalition (TASSC).

- Singer is a Research Fellow at the Independent Institute another recipient of Philip Morris and ExxonMobil funds.

- serves on the Science Advisory Board of the American Council on Science and Health (ACSH) that opposes smoking but supports industry positions on health issues, for example downplaying risks associated with dioxin, asbestos, and other carcinogenic materials

-  Singer's non-profit corporation SEPP received multiple grants from ExxonMobil, including in 1998 and 2000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Singer
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Singer, whose name was included on the list as one of the "global warming" skeptics, would appear to have financial connections with both Philip Morris and ExxonMobil

As previously stated, common sense can go out the window when money is involved.

The Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT), a free-market policy organization, was created to offer a "new voice" on consumer and environmental issues.

- established in 1985, is a member and organizer of the Cooler Heads Coalition and the National Consumer Coalition.

-  free market think tank focuses on campus organizing and getting their message to the public through research, media exposure, and a national radio commentary called "Just the Facts" that is broadcast on 300 stations daily.

- CFACT's Board of Academic and Scientific Advisors is a who's who of climate skeptics and industry-funded scientists.

- "are two of the primary voices seeking to provide a positive alternative to major environmental groups like Greenpeace, the Sierra Club, and Friends of the Earth."
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- received $710, 000 between 1991 and 2002 from Richard Mellon Scaife controlled foundations, the Carthage Foundation and the Sarah Scaife Foundation.[/b]

KEY QUOTES - 12 November, 2001
"In short, as science becomes more advanced it seems that the one thing is clear: While ice caps may be growing, and coral reefs are remaining resilient, the one thing that is dwindling for sure is the case for global warming."
Source: Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow CFACT Website 5/03

7 April, 2004 - "President Bush, of course, deserves even more credit for showing leadership in putting the breaks on this misguided treaty. When he first refused to go along with the Kyoto Protocol, howls of protest went up from those decrying his insensitivity to addressing this 'pressing' problem. Since then, however, nations such as Japan, Australia, Russia, and now Germany have likewise backpeddled on Kyoto compliance. One can't help but think, now in this baseball season, that maybe this President, a former owner of the Texas Rangers, knows when, and when not, to play ball."

7 June, 2002 - President David Rothbard signed a letter to President Bush, asking him to withdraw the "Climate Action Report 2002" and demand that it be rewritten based on "sound science". The letter also recommends that Bush "dismiss or re-assign all administration employees who are not pursuing your agenda, just as you have done in several similar instances."
Source: Joint Letter To President Bush On The EPA's Climate Action Report 6/7/02

2 August, 2002 - Wrote to President Bush, discouraging him from attending the UN Summit on Sustainable Development. Bush did not attend.
Source: "Corporate-funded Lobbyists Aimed to Sabotage Johannesburg Summit," Africa News, 8/19/2002
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FUNDING

Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow has received $472,000 from ExxonMobil since 1998.

1998
$5,000 ExxonMobil Corporate Giving
Source: ExxonMobil 1998 grants list

2000
$110,000 ExxonMobil Foundation
project support
Source: ExxonMobil Foundation 2000 IRS 990

2001
$35,000 ExxonMobil Foundation
Source: ExxonMobil 2001 Annual Report

2002
$35,000 ExxonMobil Foundation
Source: ExxonMobil 2002 Annual Report

2003
$25,000 ExxonMobil Foundation
Climate Change Issues
Source: ExxonMobil 2003 Corporate Giving Report

2003
$47,000 ExxonMobil Foundation
General Operating Support
Source: ExxonMobil 2003 Corporate Giving Report

2004
$35,000 ExxonMobil Foundation
Climate Change Issues
Source: Exxon Giving Report 2004

2004
$40,000 ExxonMobil Foundation
General Operating Support
Source: Exxon Giving Report 2004

2004
$50,000 ExxonMobil Foundation
Grassroots Efforts on Climate Change Issues
Source: Exxon Giving Report 2004

2005
$90,000 ExxonMobil Foundation
Source: ExxonMobil 2005 DIMENSIONS Report (Corporate Giving)
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KEY PEOPLE

David Rothbard
President
Source: Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow CFACT Website 5/06

Hugh Ellsaesser
Board of Academic and Scientific Advisors
Source: Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow CFACT Website 5/06

Howard Hayden
Board of Academic and Scientific Advisors
Source: Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow CFACT Website 5/06

http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.phpid=25
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What a coincidence - even more names from the "global warming" skeptics list on another industry "think tank" financed by corporations like MobilExxon and the Richard Mellon Scaife controlled foundations, the Carthage Foundation.  As previously stated, the latter gave a $330 000 grant to Western Journalism Center which owns WorldNetDaily and Whistleblower Magazine).

And I can see that you still do not understand the point. For every scientist that says one thing there can be found another that will say something else. So what as Christians should we believe?

Psa 18:30  As for God, his way is perfect: the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all those that trust in him.

Psa 118:8  It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

Pro 3:5  Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

Again I post this verse, the words of the Lord:

Gen 8:22  While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

I am merely using the same argument that you introduced in an attempt to discredit corporate members of the BELC - conflict of interest.

Some of the "scientists" introduced have their degrees in mathematics, agronomy, geology, social anthropology -  not climatology.  Many are from Canada, New Zealand and the Netherlands - not America. One is even an energy consultant at Sioux Lookout of all places - have you ever been or even heard of Sioux Lookout (there are no roads - you have to fly in).

To somehow associate Trust in God and Bible quotations with dismissing "global warming" does the Scriptures a disservice.

"The right of holding slaves is clearly established in the Holy Scriptures, both by precept and example."
-R. Furman, Baptist, of South Carolina

"The doctrine that the earth is neither the center of the universe nor immovable, but moves even with a daily rotation, is absurd, and both philosophically and theologically false, and at the least an error of faith."
-Catholic Church's decision against Galileo Galilei

If "global warming" " becomes a reality, non Believers will turn use statements by Christian conservatives in an attempt to discredit the faith.  Slavery and the belief in a "flat earth" also used the Gospel to convince large numbers of Christains to justify and support their existance as part of God's order in the universe.

Why do Christians continue to take the Bible out of context to support causes for which it was never intended?

Why do Christians ignore scripture that does not fit their agenda or beliefs or doubt that the word of God can stand on it's own merits. There is nothing taken out of context with the scripture that i used. It is a promise of God. There was no exceptions made for "unless global warming happens". He assures us that "seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter" as well as "day and night" will continue "While the earth remaineth". If we doubt His word on this how then can we believe that Christ is our Lord and Saviour and means what He said about our Salvation?

It is to call God a liar to say that He did not mean what He said.

Brothers and Sisters,

The New York Times is known as being an extremely liberal publication, yet they have recently exposed all of the Al Gore global warming stuff as HYPE AND HOAX! BUT, Al Gore got some kind of award for his so-called documentary about global warming, and it's still being shown in schools as TRUTH.

The absolute truth involves many billions of dollars at stake to keep selling this global warming lie. All the lies have managed to accomplish is public confusion and near hysteria for certain special interest groups. At this point, it doesn't appear that the real TRUTH is of much interest. If lies are told long enough, many people will start believing them, and Al Gore is living proof of this. It will take much more than an article from the New York Times to set the record straight. I just hope this hoax doesn't last as long as the Darwin hoax.

The Al Gore hoax is not just a matter of opinion on his part. The so-called documentary contains many outright lies and gross misrepresentation. Many of the so-called facts and statistics of the documentary are close to Michael Moore quality. UM??? - Michael Moore got awards also.   ???

Evil is awarded these days.

Greetings brothers and sisters....its been a while!   :o


I have seen this documentary, and I must say its eye opening.  You can view it by doing a video google search for Global warming swindle

The data presented in the documentary without question raises doubts as to the cause.  Most scientist agree warming is happening (if you consider 0.6 degree's C on average over the past 4 decades significant...lol).   The real argument hinges on whether or not humans are causing it.   I certainly don't agree we are to blame.   Its been noted that the polar caps on Mars are also melting....no doubt from all the CO2 that the rovers are releasing into the martian atmosphere  ;D

From what I have seen data wise, its much more logical that this is all related to the Solar cyclical activity, which has been going on for thousands of years.   From ice core samples, we can see back in medieval times, the earth on average was found to be much warmer than it is today.   So earth temperature change is nothing new.   As some of you know, I frequent a few weather boards as well.   Some scientists on these boards are also quite skeptical regarding Al Gores film.

I've always said, when you hear science from politicians, rather than scientists, red flags should be going up all over the place.   Its all about industry and money.   We have much more important things to be worried about as a nation and as believers IMHO.   Also, The Bible has nothing to fear from science.   Science has changed it theories so many times after discovering for years it was wrong its not even funny anymore, yet scripture has stood the test of time, showing it was accurate all along, while science eventually catches up.   I'll stick with Gods truth!


Oh yeah.....How can you tell if a politician is lying?  His lips are moving  :D

Good to see you guys again!

Blessings!

AMEN Brother Roger, as I posted in coffee time:

 Ge 8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease

HEY 2T  :D :D :D Welcome back, it has been a long time and we sure have missed you. How are you?

Thanks for the warm welcome (no global warming pun intended)...lol

I have been doing great.   The Lord has been gracious to me and my family, and I give Him thanks for that.  God has really been doing a work in our lives and hearts.

Its good be back on CU.  I have passed by a few times lurking, but never really had enough time to get involved in any of the threads.   I decided to make some time this morning  :)

I missed you guys too!


Blessings!

I am glad you and your family are doing great and that God has been blessing you. We have never stopped praying for you, as you already know we always pray for all our members. But you have been sorely missed.
Glad you decided to be back  ;D

aww....now your pullin at my heart strings.   Thank you for that sister...it really means a lot!   

Hi 2T,

It is good to see you posting here again. I agree with Sister Maria, you have been sorely missed.

I love reading your posts.

 :D :D :D  see?? We love you  :D

Hi PR :::brotherly hugs:::  Good to see you to bro!



LOL shucks...I love you guys too!

Hello 2nd Timothy,

Brother, it's great to hear from you. In terms of this warming stuff, I think that I have it all figured out. In my neck of the woods, it gets warmer when the sun comes up and colder when the sun goes down.   ;D

We even have four seasons each year in my neck of the woods, and they are all different every year. It's amazing!   ;D

Love In Christ,
Tom

Matthew 4:19 NASB  And He *said to them, "Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men."

OH there's going to be a WHOLE lot of warming for Al, but not the kind he's talking about   ;D ;D


I agree a global lawsuit should start warming things up for him.

Hey Brother!  I've been having this same problem in my local...lol   Its conspiracy I tell ya!!!  I think we should petition our Representatives to take this before congress and investigate it straight away!!!    ;D

Uh oh .... we'll really be in trouble then.   :D :D

Yup................ ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D