Title: Homosexuality Post by: babyjesus2005 on November 07, 2006, 05:55:27 PM Where in the Bible does it talk about Homosexuality being a sin? I found reference in Leviticus, is that it?
Title: Re: Homosexuality Post by: nChrist on November 07, 2006, 06:11:48 PM Where in the Bible does it talk about Homosexuality being a sin? I found reference in Leviticus, is that it? Hello babyjesus2005, No, there are many more, especially if you include the issue of marriage. You might take a look at: Genesis 2:24 Romans 1:26-27 Leviticus 18:22-28 1 Corinthians 6:9 Ephesians 4:19 Ephesians 5:12 1 Timothy 1:10 Jude 1:7 Jude 1:10 These should do for starters, and there will be references to other portions if you have a study-type Bible, a Bible with topical indexes, or other study helps present in most Bibles. Love In Christ, Tom Psalms 105:3-4 NASB Glory in His holy name; Let the heart of those who seek the LORD be glad. Seek the LORD and His strength; Seek His face continually. Title: Re: Homosexuality Post by: Brother Jerry on November 08, 2006, 12:38:23 AM Yeah that is just a start. Try reading the story of Lot in Gen 19 and see what the people had been like.
It seems that the first thing to go in a sinful life is lusts...time and time again when a mighty man of God falls it is because of a lustful nature that is dealing with sex. David, Sampson, Sodom, etc, etc. Title: Re: Homosexuality Post by: babyjesus2005 on November 21, 2006, 07:20:23 PM I am having a hard time understanding what Jesus said about Homosexuality. I understand what you wrote about all the Old Testament references and even Paul's letters but what did Jesus say about Homosexuality?
Yeah that is just a start. Try reading the story of Lot in Gen 19 and see what the people had been like. It seems that the first thing to go in a sinful life is lusts...time and time again when a mighty man of God falls it is because of a lustful nature that is dealing with sex. David, Sampson, Sodom, etc, etc. Title: Re: Homosexuality Post by: Soldier4Christ on November 21, 2006, 08:05:38 PM All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."
— 2 Tim 3:16-17 The Bible is the word of God. All that is in it is there by His inspiration, His purpose, His specific design. Therefore anything said on homosexuality is by the word of God. Jesus Christ is very God, so again anything said about homosexuality in the Bible is said by Jesus. Many people try to use the excuse that Jesus was not recorded as specifically saying anything about homosexuality as an excuse to sanctify there sinful nature and make it "ok" to do. The truth of the matter is that sin is sin whether Jesus specifically said it or whether He said it through one of the many men of God. There is no way around it, homosexuality is against the plan of God, it is one of the many sins of man just as is lying, cheating or twisting God's word in order to give one "reason" to continue in that sin. Any person that is struggling with this sin needs to turn aside from it, turn to God, repent and ask for His wonderful mercy and help for He is the only one that can truly help. Yes other Christians can help by praying for that individual and to give supporting words but it is Jesus that will be the only one that can truly help them. Title: Re: Homosexuality Post by: nChrist on November 21, 2006, 08:21:10 PM I am having a hard time understanding what Jesus said about Homosexuality. I understand what you wrote about all the Old Testament references and even Paul's letters but what did Jesus say about Homosexuality? The entire Bible is GOD'S WORD from cover to cover, and JESUS is GOD. So, plainly and very simply - homosexuality is an ABOMINATION IN THE EYES OF GOD. Look up "abomination". The words of all the writers of the Holy Bible are the WORD OF GOD - HIS WORDS - given by the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD! GOD THE FATHER, GOD THE SON (JESUS CHRIST), AND GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT ARE ONE AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ONE, so the Holy Bible from cover to cover was and is the WORD OF THE FATHER, THE WORD OF JESUS CHRIST, AND THE WORD OF THE HOLY SPIRIT - ALMIGHTY GOD. GOD is the same yesterday, today, and forever. HIS WORD stands as the ONLY TRUTH and every page of HIS WORD has been or will be fulfilled perfectly. GOOD NEWS! 1: Romans 3:10 NASB as it is written, "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE; THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD; ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE." 2: Romans 3:23 NASB for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 3: Romans 5:12 NASB Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned-- 4: Romans 6:23 NASB For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. 5: Romans 1:18 NASB For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 6: Romans 3:20 NASB because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin. 7: Romans 3:27 NASB Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. 8: Romans 5:8-9 NASB But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him. 9: Romans 2:4 NASB Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance? 10: Romans 3:22 NASB even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction; 11: Romans 3:28 NASB For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. 12: Romans 10:9 NASB that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 13: Romans 4:21 NASB and being fully assured that what God had promised, He was able also to perform. 14: Romans 4:24 NASB but for our sake also, to whom it will be credited, as those who believe in Him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead, 15: Romans 5:1 NASB Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 16: Romans 10:10 NASB for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 17: Romans 10:13 NASB for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED." Thanks be unto GOD for HIS unspeakable GIFT!, JESUS CHRIST, our Lord and Saviour forever! Title: Re: Homosexuality Post by: Brother Jerry on November 21, 2006, 10:56:45 PM Amen
Title: Re: Homosexuality Post by: Len on November 22, 2006, 02:02:35 PM I am having a hard time understanding what Jesus said about Homosexuality. I understand what you wrote about all the Old Testament references and even Paul's letters but what did Jesus say about Homosexuality? John 1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God" (literally..."and God was the Word"). Later in John 1 "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us." The subject of these verses is Jesus. He was God's Word in the flesh. So if you know what Scripture (the Word) says, you know what Jesus says. Title: Re: Homosexuality Post by: Jenn4God on November 22, 2006, 02:17:08 PM Ok just because the bible doesn't say anything directly about homosexuality, doesn't mean it isn't wrong. If it was "Right" I'm sure ther would have been some reference in the bible about it.(eg. there would have been gays and lesbians in the bible)All the scripture about marriage and relationships refers to the couple as man and woman.
Title: Re: Homosexuality Post by: Jenn4God on November 22, 2006, 05:23:05 PM I would like to add this scripture verse. It seems my previous post had false info. For that I apologize. There is a verse in the bible that pertains to homosexuality.
Romans 1:26-27 AKJV For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections; for even their women did exchange the natural use for that which is against nature;And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was fitting. Title: Re: Homosexuality Post by: nChrist on November 22, 2006, 06:39:09 PM Hello Jenn4God,
I see that you are new, so WELCOME! (http://www.sirinet.net/~blkidps/welcome.gif) I sincerely hope that you enjoy Christians Unite and the fellowship we have here. I look forward to reading your posts and having fellowship with you. There are plenty of verses in the Holy Bible that specifically address homosexuality. Just a beginning list is the 2nd post in this thread. I think that what we have is people trying to justify their continued alternative lifestyles with the Holy Bible, and it can't be done. The Holy Bible is completely against it in the Old Testament and the New Testament. The primary difference in the Old Testament was it was a death penalty offense, and GOD commanded that the violators be stoned to death immediately. We no longer have that command in the New Testament. Love In Christ, Tom Ephesians 2:19-22 NASB So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God's household, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit. Title: Re: Homosexuality Post by: Soldier4Christ on November 27, 2006, 02:27:29 PM babyjesus2005
Your last two posts have been deleted. It is against forum rules to post information or links to information that support alternate lifestyles. Any further such posts will also be deleted and may result in your being banned. You are most welcome to look around but do not post anything further in support of homosexuality. Those that wish to twist scripture in order to support their lifestyles will not find a platform here. You have been given what the Bible says on homosexuality here. To deny it is to call God a liar. Jesus Christ is very God and the Bible is the inspired word of God so it is not a stretch to say anything that is in the Bible is also spoken by Jesus. Homosexuality is a lifestyle which is openly condemned in the Bible more than any other specific sin. A post that I made elsewhere on this subject does apply here also: The specific word homosexual or homosexuality is not used in most Bibles but it is there just the same time and time again in both the Old as well as the New Testaments. The words used are “abomination” (which comes from the Hebrew word “to’eiva,” meaning “something disgusting”), “defile yourselves” (defile comes from the original Greek word “arsenokoites” meaning “abuser of self with mankind"), in Deuteronomy 23:18, the word “dog” translates from the Hebrew word “gedesh,” meaning “one practicing sodomy”, Judges 19:22 lists “perverted,” Romans 1:24-29 uses terms such “lusts,” “uncleanness,” “vile passions,” “the natural for what is against nature,” “shameful,” “debased mind,” “not fitting,” “unrighteousness,” “sexual immorality” and “evil.” For those that say Jesus was silent on the subject: Was Jesus silent on the issue? No He was not! The number of times Jesus mentions the city of Sodom is second only to that of Jerusalem . ( Mat 10:15, Mat 11:23-24, Mar 6;11, Luke 10:12, Luke 17:29 ) There are also many sexual behaviors that Jesus did not address, such as incest, rape, and bestiality. That, however, does not mean they are permissible. Jesus affirmed celibacy as the only legitimate alternative to heterosexual marriage (Matt. 19:12 ). If the Bible doesn’t teach that homosexuality is sin, than it doesn’t teach that anything is sin! (Note: Sodom or “sodomites,” describes a lifestyle that throughout civilized society has been considered sinful and inexcusably wicked (Deut. 23:17 ). In Genesis 19:4-7, the men of Sodom call out to Lot and said, “Where are the men which came into thee this night? Bring them out unto us, that we might know (have gotcha146) them.” The Hebrew word translated “know” in this passage is “yada,” the same word used in Genesis 4:1, “And Adam ‘knew’ his wife and she conceived.” Sodomy and allied practices were known in late Latin as peccatum sodomiticum, “sin of Sodom .” People who do not care about the commandments of God, who have no standard but their own culture – they cannot really know. But the believer knows! And, it is much worse when someone who knows suppresses what he or she knows, supports or does nothing to correct this abomination, and calls anyone “mean-spirited, hateful or intolerant” who opposes and exposes this sin. God has a created order in which He has decreed only proper sexual intimacies occur within heterosexual marriage. This includes Judaism, Protestantism and Catholicism. Only pagan religions differ! Now, we may not like that, but that’s the truth, regardless of any interpretive gymnastics we might attempt. Rom 1:32 states that those who approve of these actions are as guilty as those who practice them. The further homosexual behavior is “normalized” by people who describe themselves as Christians, of all people, the more clearly those with eyes to see will recognize that our destruction is upon us. Christians are instructed to speak the truth in love (Eph. 5:15 ), but the emphasis in this verse is not on just love – it is on the truth! As Christians it is our responsibility to assist those that are repentant and wish to remove themselves from the death grip that sin has on them. This does not mean that we are to show them love by accepting that lifestyle. There is hope for the homosexual on the same basis as there is hope for any sinner: repentance and faith in Jesus Christ. The homosexual can be forgiven, set free, and changed by God’s love and power. Title: Re: Homosexuality Post by: ibTina on November 27, 2006, 03:40:40 PM Quote There is hope for the homosexual on the same basis as there is hope for any sinner: repentance and faith in Jesus Christ. The homosexual can be forgiven, set free, and changed by God’s love and power. (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/tinabaran/amen2.jpg) Title: Re: Homosexuality Post by: nChrist on November 27, 2006, 09:16:55 PM Quote There is hope for the homosexual on the same basis as there is hope for any sinner: repentance and faith in Jesus Christ. The homosexual can be forgiven, set free, and changed by God’s love and power. ANOTHER AMEN! Thanks be unto GOD for HIS unspeakable GIFT!, JESUS CHRIST, our Lord and Saviour forever! |