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Title: Judge Moore tells Christians they're at war
Post by: Soldier4Christ on November 06, 2006, 04:01:07 PM
Judge Moore tells Christians they're at war 
'There's a battle going on here for the heart and soul of America'

Former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore offered his own interpretation of the First Amendment to a packed church Sunday in Grainger County.

Moore, who was ousted in 2003 after defying a federal court order to remove a 5,300-pound Ten Commandments monument that he installed in the state courthouse, told the crowd of more than 230 people at Barnard's Grove Baptist Church that some judges are creating laws rather than interpreting them.

 He also told his audience that, while American soldiers are fighting overseas, there is also a war going on in the United States.

"There's a battle going on here for the heart and soul of America," he said. "You are the soldiers ... We all must be engaged."

Moore said his battle to display the Ten Commandments pitted a secular reading of the U.S. Constitution against his interpretation, which relies heavily upon the legal documents that frame the nation's government, including the Declaration of Independence's description of rights as being derived from God.

Knox County Commission passed a resolution in 2001 calling for posting of the Ten Commandments in public buildings but didn't follow through. Several other Tennessee counties, however, did post the documents in public buildings.

In 2005, a divided U.S. Supreme Court ruled that copies of the Ten Commandments could not be displayed in two rural Kentucky courthouses. But a narrow majority said it was constitutional to display a monument to the Ten Commandments in a historical context on the grounds of the Texas Capitol in Austin.

Moore said Sunday that a government's legitimacy was understood by the nation's founders as being dependent on whether it secured the rights granted by God.

"If it's necessary to start a new country, what gives us the right (to do so)?" he said.

Moore repeatedly cited passages from early American thinkers such as Thomas Jefferson to bolster his assertion that Judeo-Christian principles formed the basis of American law.

"They started with a Christian concept," he said. "The First Amendment is all about God. ... It does not mean separating God and government."

Moore said his actions while chief justice were motivated by a desire to "acknowledge God" and asked the crowd: "Put yourself in my shoes ... Are you going to acknowledge God over the state?"

He also attacked the logic of various legal decisions that have placed restrictions on how and when religious documents like the Ten Commandments can be displayed on public property.

Federal courts have ruled several times that the context in which such displays are presented can determine whether they are lawful or not.

For instance, displays that are presented as part of a historical display are allowed, while those that clearly are meant as an endorsement of Judeo-Christian beliefs aren't permitted, he said.

Moore satirized the position by saying: "You're not allowed to mean it. The courts are ruling upon what we think."

Moore also said the U.S. Supreme Court opens its sessions with a reference to God and pointed out that the nation's currency bears the phrase "In God We Trust," leading him to describe the legal battle that unseated him as hypocritical.

The crowd welcomed Moore with a standing ovation and later thronged the front lobby of the church, where they could purchase autographed copies of his book, "So Help Me God."

Moore is now chairman of the nonprofit Foundation for Moral Law in Montgomery, Ala., a group that focuses on litigating religious liberty issues and education, according to its Web site at http://morallaw.org.

Moore agreed to speak at the church after he was invited by the Grainger County Baptist Association and Matt Sexton, a law student who met Moore last year while clerking for a friend of the former judge in Alabama.

"I told him, 'I want you to come speak in East Tennessee,' " Sexton said. "The Lord helped me work it out."


Title: Re: Judge Moore tells Christians they're at war
Post by: nChrist on November 06, 2006, 10:00:19 PM
YES - We are and have been in a war for over 50 years. It's shocking and the ultimate hypocrisy for anyone who has a clue about the founding of this country and over 200 years of history. Sadly, many young people haven't been taught this history because it's been banned from the classrooms. Regardless, the history still exists and overwhelming evidence - proof beyond any doubt - is still available for anyone who wants to know the truth.

Rulings from the Supreme Court that have anything to do with pushing GOD out of public view are the ultimate hypocrisy. The things of GOD and the Ten Commandments are all over their building, chambers, and hearing areas. The same is true for all older public buildings. This can't be denied because it's still there.

Real American history would involve:

1 - The Holy Bible as a primary teaching text in all public schools for over 200 years. This history would go back much further than the Revolution.

2 - Congress of the United States directed the first English printing of the Holy Bible in America.

3 - Thomas Jefferson as President and also in charge of Washington Schools placed the Holy Bible and Isaac Watt's Hymnal as primary teaching texts in the public schools of Washington.

4 - The Holy Bible was quoted verbatim in our law books as the authority for many laws, most especially the more serious offenses.

5 - Church services were held in all of the major public buildings of the Capitol, including those of the Congress.

6 - There are Judicial notices too many to list recognizing ALMIGHTY GOD as the ultimate authority and the teaching of JESUS CHRIST and Christianity as the foundation and moral fiber of our society.

7 - There are mountains of books and materials from our founders and public figures about their reverence for ALMIGHTY GOD and JESUS CHRIST and the necessity of this teaching to preserve our society and way of life.

8 - Every facet of our government, society, and existence was permeated with the things of GOD.

9 - Every State Constitution and all founding documents refer to ALMIGHTY GOD as the AUTHORITY.

In conclusion, our young people don't know the truth unless their parents have taken the time and effort to teach it to them. The history books that contained the truth have been banned from the classroom. I assume that groups like the ACLU think they can make our history disappear and be forgotten. The goals of the ACLU and groups like them require either the ignorance or denial of history. The bottom line is real simple:  our foundation was by Christians for a Christian nation, and they intended it to stay that way.


Love In Christ,
Tom

Psalms 139:9-10 NASB  If I take the wings of the dawn, If I dwell in the remotest part of the sea, Even there Your hand will lead me, And Your right hand will lay hold of me.


Title: Re: Judge Moore tells Christians they're at war
Post by: Pizza_Mahal on November 07, 2006, 07:31:44 AM
That not war! That is a battlefield, The war is been on for over 6000 year and still on. However the battle we on are not over!

Personal note: Do you know most young people really hate word of "God" or his words! Because they want something, but we stood thier way. How I know? Because I'm yourg too and I visit lot forum.


Title: Re: Judge Moore tells Christians they're at war
Post by: nChrist on November 07, 2006, 10:04:14 AM
Hello Pizza_Al,

You are right. It is very sad that many in our society hate the name of GOD and JESUS CHRIST. Those names remind them that they've been accused of sin, and they don't want anyone to tell them that they are doing wrong.

Those who are lost want to continue in their sins, and they want to silence anyone telling them they are doing bad things. They don't want the conviction in their hearts of wrongdoing, and they don't want to yield to JESUS CHRIST as Lord and Saviour. I give thanks that GOD is still working in mighty ways, and hosts of people are still accepting JESUS CHRIST as Lord and Saviour.

Love in Christ,
Tom

Galatians 6:9-10 NASB  Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary. So then, while we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith.