Title: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Florida_Catholic on October 02, 2006, 08:58:55 PM Mark Foley, a 52 yr old Republican previously certain for reelection, wrote to one young page, "Do I make you a little horny?"
See the full story at: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2511141 "House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi of California proposed to the House that its ethics committee investigate and make a preliminary report in 10 days. . . Instead, majority Republicans engineered a vote to allow the ethics panel to decide whether there should even be an investigation." It's time for some real oversight of this Republican government that is totally out of control. Please vote Democrat in your next election. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: nChrist on October 02, 2006, 09:09:59 PM ::) WOW!
This is one isolated example, and he resigned. Your broad brush painting with the title of this thread is a load of baloney. How soon do we forget about a Democratic President who did much more than email and did remain the President. SO, this would be selective outrage! :o :o ::) ::) ::) Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Soldier4Christ on October 02, 2006, 09:35:59 PM How about the Democrats? They sanctioned a member of the Democratic party that actually commited sexual misconduct with a page.
In 1983, a congressman, Rep. Gerry E. Studds was caught having sexual relationships with a male page. Studds, a Democrat, would go on to be re-elected in his Massachusetts district and served until his 1996 retirement. Studds' involvement dated back to 1973, according to the House investigation. He admitted to having consensual sexual relations with a 17-year-old boy that year, and documents showed he had made advances on two other male pages. Studds, 47 at the time, didn't back down during the investigation and instead lashed out at the investigation for invading his privacy; he said that because he was a gay, elected public official, it was much "more complex" to live a "meaningful private life." Of course such lifestyles are fully supported by the left. How soon we forget is right. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Florida_Catholic on October 02, 2006, 09:57:28 PM WOW indeed!
I saw the "selective outrage" argument in the Republican talking points and recognize it as a load of baloney. I never supported any hybrid politician and internet predator or anything else of the sort. Does the fact that you would make the reverse argument though does indicate that you think both are acceptable? The broad brush painting comes from the Republican party providing cover yet again for its members' dishonesty and endangering Americans. They are in gross need of independent oversight. So I'll as you again to please vote for a Democrat (or anyone who is not a Republican) in your next election. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Soldier4Christ on October 02, 2006, 10:11:06 PM Quote So I'll as you again to please vote for a Democrat (or anyone who is not a Republican) in your next election. I am seriously thinking of not voting republican this next election but why should I vote for a party ( the democrats ) that openly supports such atrocities amongst their own. That would be going from bad to a whole lot worse. As for your statement "The broad brush painting comes from the Republican party providing cover yet again for its members' dishonesty and endangering Americans." The Democratic party is much more full of covering for their own than is the Republican party. At least the Republicans resign when caught. As the post I made above on Rep. Gerry E. Studds, which is just one example of many, shows the Democrats don't and won't resign when they are caught. They continue on despite their being convicted. I can see from your posts that you support homosexuality, pedophilia, abortion and a whole lot more that is against God. So I'll ask you to please vote for someone other than a Democrat. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: nChrist on October 02, 2006, 10:15:28 PM Florida_Catholic,
I didn't make any excuses for anyone, and neither did the Republican party. Let's go ahead and talk about something that isn't a broad brush load of baloney - something that actually is and was a system-wide gross abuse that went on for decades - something many were desperate to cover up and hide - something that isn't an isolated example - rather something that was institutional in scope and so widespread that it was shocking. NO - I would not be talking about politics, but I would be talking about the same general area of gross sexual misconduct and the actual molestation of children. Molestation of CHILDREN by Catholic Priests! I'm not partial to anyone who molests children or violates the law. I think they should all be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and the same would obviously apply to politicians. Put them all in prison where they belong, including the politicians and the priests. I draw no distinctions between any of them. ::) ::) ::) Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: nChrist on October 02, 2006, 10:24:04 PM Pastor Roger,
Brother, I'll vote for the person I think is best for the job, and it won't make any difference what party they belong to. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Soldier4Christ on October 02, 2006, 10:44:40 PM Amen Brother Tom. It is the person that matters the most, not the party. I was being facious with FC since he/she insists that all republicans are by nature foul people yet totally ignore the fact that many Democrats not only openly support such atrocities but actually participate in them. This is the reason that the ACLU supports most democrats, pedophilias, abortion and other such garbage.
I have voted for a Democrat before a long time ago and may be persuaded to do so again if the right person comes along. At present all the Democrats that I can see are not fitting of my vote. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: nChrist on October 02, 2006, 11:36:18 PM Brother Roger,
I just got to thinking that I probably should have mentioned more information about how I vote. I have a list of moral and Biblical issues that I won't compromise with at all. Any candidate who stands against those moral and Biblical issues won't get my vote. If there isn't a worthy candidate, I'll do a write-in. I'm not trying to suggest that there must be a perfect candidate because there never is. They are all human, and all of them have done bad things at one time or another in their lives. JESUS CHRIST is the only perfect man who ever walked this earth, but HE was 100% man and 100% GOD at the same time. For all of the above reasons, I'm all for voters having a wide range of choices in primaries and everything leading up to the election. This is just one reason why I think there is room for other parties and more choices. As an example, I have no problem at all in voting for a worthy Independent. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Soldier4Christ on October 02, 2006, 11:54:01 PM Quote I have no problem at all in voting for a worthy Independent. Amen brother neither do I. I am currently looking into many of the other party candidates that are running here in Illinois and my research on them is all based on biblical issues. What gets me the most is people that run two-faced, double standard agendas. If a Democrat had done what Congressman Foley did it would be said that he was just exercising his freedom of speech rights. As FC did here, he quickly overlooked the fact that a Democrat actually committed the act and was not just in speech alone, still supporting Democrats but quickly condemning all Republicans because of one persons indiscretion. It's the mindset of vote Democrat because of what Congressman Foley, a Republican did but at the same time vote Democrat irregardless of what Rep. Gerry E. Studds, a Democrat did. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: nChrist on October 03, 2006, 12:15:31 AM YES Brother, I see the gross hypocrisy, and I would hope that the vast majority of Americans are smart enough to see the same thing.
Overall, many of the things that I've seen over the last 10 years make me sick. I've been grossly disappointed with many people who turned out to be weak and without enough spine to stand up when they should have. I would be including people I voted for in my own state. I'm not impressed at all with political correctness. I like the old fashioned types who tell it like it is and own what they say. These folks are becoming rare now, and many politicians with high morals are chewed up and spit out by the system. If I had my way, I would erect a gallows near the House and keep an executioner on retainer. ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Soldier4Christ on October 03, 2006, 12:26:14 AM If I had my way, I would erect a gallows near the House and keep an executioner on retainer. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: doc on October 07, 2006, 08:47:16 AM All,
"Does the fact that you would make the reverse argument though does indicate that you think both are acceptable?" FC makes a valid point. We can point fingers all day long on this issue and reach no conclusion as to who is most culpable. The truth is that politics rarely brings out the best in a person and frequently allows for the worst - behind doors, that is. God knows the heart and the mind, thankfully and He will judge. An interesting comment was made on a recent Fox report. This kind of political hot potato usually favors the Dems and condemns the Reps. Historically, the media has a field day and forward their liberal agenda at the expense of the conservatives. Old Bill still has his excellent reputation and "Bend Over Barney" is still a senator from Mass. Let's face it, the Reps were stupid not to clean house when they could and the Dems will do absolutely any thing to regain the White House/Congress/Supreme Court/Governorships and your wallet, that they can. That is the true nature of the political beast and I want no part of it. doc Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Soldier4Christ on October 07, 2006, 09:56:36 AM "Does the fact that you would make the reverse argument though does indicate that you think both are acceptable?" No it is not acceptable no matter what party the person is a member of. That was the point that I was making. Nor is this incident a reason to vote for nothing but Democrats. Nor is this a reason to have nothing at all to do with the political arena. I hear many Christians say they won't have anything to do with politics, I won't vote for these reasons. To avoid politics completely is to let that beast have it's way. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: nChrist on October 07, 2006, 06:49:13 PM One can see a pattern of scandals and how they are handled. In the most recent one, the person was forced out almost immediately. If you look over the last 30 years, the opposite was done on the other side of the aisle - they were promoted or kept. AND, that would include the President of the United States.
Anyone can easily look at the patterns of how things are handled, as there is a horrible history to look at. The most recent scandal represents selective outrage and hypocrisy to the outer limits. That doesn't lessen my outrage that it happened in the first place, but I did see how quickly and harshly it was handled. I want to know about who knew about this and kept it quiet until just before the election. I don't think that we will be surprised when we find out. I won't be calling for the removal of people who had nothing to do with this, nor will it change the way I vote unless the candidate was involved. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Amorus on October 09, 2006, 11:20:51 AM I love politics because it always reminds me how much I need to lean on Jesus and his teachings! Thank goodness I know what party I belong too in the eternal election already knowing what the outcome will be!
Blessing! -Am- Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Soldier4Christ on October 09, 2006, 11:33:34 AM I love politics because it always reminds me how much I need to lean on Jesus and his teachings! Thank goodness I know what party I belong too in the eternal election already knowing what the outcome will be! Blessing! -Am- Amen! Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: nChrist on October 09, 2006, 11:36:23 AM Amen Amorus!
It's ironic that I made a similar post just a short time ago. My party is THE BODY OF CHRIST and JESUS CHRIST is the eternal HEAD. The platform has been the same for over 2,000 years. This is really something beautiful to think about often. Our HEAD and ETERNAL LEADER has never broken a promise, and HE'S Holy, Perfect, Righteous, and without sin. I also want to repeat something else in the other post. We are having a membership drive RIGHT NOW! See below: ________________________________ GOOD NEWS! 1: Romans 3:10 NASB as it is written, "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE; THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD; ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE." 2: Romans 3:23 NASB for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 3: Romans 5:12 NASB Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned-- 4: Romans 6:23 NASB For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. 5: Romans 1:18 NASB For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 6: Romans 3:20 NASB because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin. 7: Romans 3:27 NASB Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. 8: Romans 5:8-9 NASB But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him. 9: Romans 2:4 NASB Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance? 10: Romans 3:22 NASB even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction; 11: Romans 3:28 NASB For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. 12: Romans 10:9 NASB that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 13: Romans 4:21 NASB and being fully assured that what God had promised, He was able also to perform. 14: Romans 4:24 NASB but for our sake also, to whom it will be credited, as those who believe in Him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead, 15: Romans 5:1 NASB Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 16: Romans 10:10 NASB for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 17: Romans 10:13 NASB for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED." Thanks be unto GOD for HIS unspeakable GIFT!, JESUS CHRIST, our Lord and Saviour forever! Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Amorus on October 09, 2006, 02:42:01 PM Amen brother!
Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Florida_Catholic on October 09, 2006, 08:24:19 PM I realize that many people will never be convinced regardless of how many scandals (Foley, Abramoff, Delay, Domestic Spying, Libby, Katrina, Abu Gharib, Iraq) come out against the party they feel they should be so loyal to. However in the interest of putting the facts out there - the Republican party did not act to force Foley out quickly, even though they might have claimed that (another example of how they thrive on misleading the public). Foley resigned when the news came out before the Republican leadership could react. However they decided to keep the story within the Republican party leadership. As far as the reference to Fox News - FYI O'Reilly put "Foley (D-FL)" as the caption when reporting this story and as far as I know he has not retracted this.
Speaking of hypocrisy, I only hope you recognize the hypocrisy of the Republican party leadership appointing a child predator as the person they wanted to lead the charge against child predators. Similarly to how they appoint people with ties to oil companies in charge of environmental regulatory agencies and those with ties to pharmaceutical corporations in charge of the FDA and the like. Besides objective disappointments like the all-time high deficits and national debt and the recent CIA report that the War in Iraq is actually creating more terrorists (Duh!). The issue here is oversight. It is often said that absolute power corrupts absolutely. I say to vote Democrat in the interest of keeping our government honest, or at least a little less dishonest. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Soldier4Christ on October 09, 2006, 08:46:52 PM Quote I say to vote Democrat in the interest of keeping our government honest, or at least a little less dishonest. Now you have me laughing so hard I can barely type. If you really think that the democratic party is more honest then you have really been decieved or you are purposefully wearing blinders. A politician that says I am a Christian and I support abortion and same sex marriages like so very many democrats are doing. They are blantantly lying right there. There are many republicans that I would never vote for as the republican party is getting infiltrated more and more with such individuals that think they can get a better ride that way but still are nothing they make themselves out to be. That is why it is important to know the candidate and how he is going to vote on different issues. It is beyond me though why anyone that is a Christian would support a party where the entire party is against the things of God and want all the people in the nation to be either under communistic control or under sharia law (and their voting clearly shows it). Is it because you want to hasten the Lords coming? That isn't going to happen as Jesus will return when it is God's time and we can't change that. In the meantime Christians should be doing what they can to prevent evil from over running us and voting for someone that wants abortions, same sex marriages and such things is not the way to do it. It truly saddens my heart to see supposed Christians voting in support of abortion, same sex marriage, the silencing of the word of God ....... Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: nChrist on October 10, 2006, 12:39:11 AM Florida_Catholic,
We only see or hear from you around election times, so I wonder how many folks have figured this out. The only thing I'm curious about is the connection between you and DLee and how much you get paid. So, help us out and tell us. We might be able to find out for ourselves. Regardless, thanks for the laughs and entertainment. ;D Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Kathy on October 11, 2006, 09:14:44 AM This a comment and a request. Since the last couple of years have gone so bad. Which I think most of it is lined up with the Bible and suppose to be happening. I think before we begin pointing fingers and slamming people, look at the Bible and see these things are to come to pass. The world religon, one ruler, etc. Things that are happening have to happen. Anyway, back to the point. I was wondering if we could start a thread of Rep. and Dem. canidates, so we can compare them and what they believe in. Some people may not have the time or the energy to do this and when it comes to time to vote they may go and vote for someone who isn't right. While I am a Rep., I am looking into others who line up with the Bible. Clinton may have had some good ideas but he did not line with the Bible and I don't care how often he went to church. He was not a Godly man according to his actios.
Kathy Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: airIam2worship on October 11, 2006, 09:51:45 AM Kathy I agree with you Clinton was not and probably still isn't a Godly man.
Florida Catholic I have a wuestion for you. Aren't Catholics against abortion? If you answer yes then why do you support a pary that supports killing millions of innocent unborn babies? Your screen name leads me to believe you are a Catholic, does that mean you don't agree with your own religion? Or better yet with God's Word? Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Soldier4Christ on October 11, 2006, 09:56:43 AM This a comment and a request. Since the last couple of years have gone so bad. Which I think most of it is lined up with the Bible and suppose to be happening. I think before we begin pointing fingers and slamming people, look at the Bible and see these things are to come to pass. The world religon, one ruler, etc. Things that are happening have to happen. Anyway, back to the point. I was wondering if we could start a thread of Rep. and Dem. canidates, so we can compare them and what they believe in. Some people may not have the time or the energy to do this and when it comes to time to vote they may go and vote for someone who isn't right. While I am a Rep., I am looking into others who line up with the Bible. Clinton may have had some good ideas but he did not line with the Bible and I don't care how often he went to church. He was not a Godly man according to his actios. Kathy That is an excellant idea and cane be started in the Politics area. I have already started just such a list and when I get it a bit further done I will post it. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: nChrist on October 12, 2006, 04:49:17 AM This a comment and a request. Since the last couple of years have gone so bad. Which I think most of it is lined up with the Bible and suppose to be happening. I think before we begin pointing fingers and slamming people, look at the Bible and see these things are to come to pass. The world religion, one ruler, etc. Things that are happening have to happen. Anyway, back to the point. I was wondering if we could start a thread of Rep. and Dem. candidates, so we can compare them and what they believe in. Some people may not have the time or the energy to do this and when it comes to time to vote they may go and vote for someone who isn't right. While I am a Rep., I am looking into others who line up with the Bible. Clinton may have had some good ideas but he did not line with the Bible and I don't care how often he went to church. He was not a Godly man according to his actions. Kathy Sister Kathy, I think that becoming informed about who you will vote for is a must. Here, we have a problem that appears to be getting worse by the day. There is so much mud-slinging, heavily slanted news media, and just plain lies that it's many times difficult to find out the truth. This is just one reason why I love hard records of votes and other public records that take the weasel room away from those who stood for things their constituents didn't approve of. This is obviously more easily done for local elections and people you keep up with every day. BUT regardless, there are hard records to look at for folks who have served in public office. This leaves one at a disadvantage for a candidate who doesn't have any hard public records. In these cases, it would be nice to know them, ask them the questions you are interested in, and have some basis for believing they would either be a good choice or a bad choice. If the person refuses to take a stance on moral and Biblical issues, I wouldn't vote for that person. This is one good reason for primaries where people of the same party throw mud at each other. Those same people can be held word for word accountable for what they said in the primaries, and much can be confirmed or discredited. We see evidence of either highly biased information or outright lies every day leading up to an election. The title of this thread is an example. One person did something grossly wrong - was forced to resign - and now folks want to paint the entire party with the same broad brush. One side wanted to handle this in house, make a media circus out of it, and take the voter's attentions away from the voting issues. The other side got outside investigation, involvement with law enforcement, and harsh ways to deal with the situation to the full extent of the law. Foley is out and not running, so now we can concentrate on the issues of survival and other top issues. As a side note, facts of the outside investigation are already starting to come out, and the folks who staged and timed this event aren't going to like it. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: airIam2worship on October 12, 2006, 08:04:55 AM This is just one reason why I love hard records of votes and other public records that take the weasel room away from those who stood for things their constituents didn't approve of. This is obviously more easily done for local elections and people you keep up with every day. BUT regardless, there are hard records to look at for folks who have served in public office. This leaves one at a disadvantage for a candidate who doesn't have any hard public records. In these cases, it would be nice to know them, ask them the questions you are interested in, and have some basis for believing they would either be a good choice or a bad choice. If the person refuses to take a stance on moral and Biblical issues, I wouldn't vote for that person. AMEN We see evidence of either highly biased information or outright lies every day leading up to an election. The title of this thread is an example. One person did something grossly wrong - was forced to resign - and now folks want to paint the entire party with the same broad brush. I just want to add what Clinton did was grossly wrong too and he did'nt even have the decency to say " I admit I was wrong and don't deserve to represent this Nation, therefore I will step down". Instead he stayed there and mocked and made America look like the Jester of the world. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: airIam2worship on October 12, 2006, 08:14:56 AM Democrats would like Americans to forget that their president the one who lied publicly to the entire world about his affair, about not inhaling, and the same coward that ran off to another country to avoid going to Vietnam did all these wrongs. The sad thing is that for the most part they are so corrupt that they are looking for the speck in everyone else's eyes while trying to ignore the beams in their own eyes.
This is only one example. I'm not even going to mention all the rest of the trash that they allowed and hid. That would take a lot of writing and more books than I care to write about. We need to vote for the Godly men, the ones that have the moral values, the ones that have a conscience that hasn't already been seared. Those that fear God. Those that love God, have respect for their country and who have honor. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: nChrist on October 14, 2006, 12:22:52 PM Florida_Catholic,
We only see or hear from you around election times, so I wonder how many folks have figured this out. The only thing I'm curious about is the connection between you and DLee and how much you get paid. So, help us out and tell us. We might be able to find out for ourselves. Regardless, thanks for the laughs and entertainment. ;D Florida_Catholic, The above is a repeated post for your benefit. You won't be calling anyone names here, as you have just found out. All of us would appreciate an answer to the above questions. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Florida_Catholic on October 14, 2006, 12:53:37 PM What do you mean? I made a post (deleted by admin) that responded to the varied responses to correct a few of the factual errors. I still don't know what part of it was against the rules, but I apologize for whatever was and if you give me some more info about it I'll make every effort to make sure it doesn't happen again.
I don't know who DLee is, but the proposition that I make posts around election times only is patently false, look at my message history - I have made many posts that were not around election times. I don't get paid, I just have a different opinion than you. I don't know why anyone would be so surprised. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: nChrist on October 14, 2006, 01:30:19 PM What do you mean? I made a post (deleted by admin) that responded to the varied responses to correct a few of the factual errors. I still don't know what part of it was against the rules, but I apologize for whatever was and if you give me some more info about it I'll make every effort to make sure it doesn't happen again. I don't know who DLee is, but the proposition that I make posts around election times only is patently false, look at my message history - I have made many posts that were not around election times. I don't get paid, I just have a different opinion than you. I don't know why anyone would be so surprised. OK, whatever you say. ::) Maybe a better question would be: are you a political operative for the democratic party? Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Soldier4Christ on October 14, 2006, 02:37:38 PM Hmmmm 55 posts and only four of them have nothing to do with supporting the Democratic platform and those four still supported anti-Christian garbage. ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: nChrist on October 14, 2006, 03:55:24 PM Democratic Party Platform Quoted:
Quote We will defend the dignity of all Americans against those who would undermine it. Because we believe in the privacy and equality of women, we stand proudly for a woman's right to choose, consistent with Roe v. Wade, and regardless of her ability to pay. We stand firmly against Republican efforts to undermine that right. At the same time, we strongly support family planning and adoption incentives. Abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. One should quickly note that the number of abortions in this country was SO RARE that the number some time ago was over 40 MILLION! It would be sickening to know the actual number today. The supported family planning is evil, without morals, and an actual encouragement of sexual activity that was a felony in most states just a few years ago. YES - same sex type activities are promoted as normal, both for same sex couples and opposite sex couples. AND, abstinence is NOT promoted as normal and viable. There is also information for dealing with unwanted consequences: pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases. The general plan is to start forcing this education upon 3rd graders with or without the approval of their parents. The education becomes more and more graphic, and morals is NOT a consideration. The question becomes "Why would a major political party make this a major plank in their publicly stated platform?" Further, why would they be proud of it? What is the purpose of mandatory sex education that promotes same sex type activities as normal? Further, please note the portion of the platform that speaks of abortion as a right, regardless of the ability to pay. This boils down to the general public paying for the abortion and no consequences at all for the immoral acts of the individual. Most should also remember recent legal battles involving juveniles getting abortions without notice to the parents and without parental approval. Christians should be smart enough to put everything together and understand the desired destination for the country. By the way, parental permission is required to give a juvenile an aspirin, so why is there a push to perform abortions on juveniles without even parental notification, much less parental approval. I've heard the talking points, and they make almost as much sense as mandatory sex education for third graders without parental approval. Bluntly, this is simply an evil power wishing to REMOVE the ability for parents to make MORAL decisions for their children. NEWS FLASH: This is not going to happen - regardless of what family planning and gay/lesbian groups want or don't want. Family planning and gay/lesbian groups ARE NOT in charge of our families, NOR WILL THEY EVER BE! Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: nChrist on October 14, 2006, 04:09:58 PM Democratic Party Platform Quoted:
Quote We support full inclusion of gay and lesbian families in the life of our nation and seek equal responsibilities, benefits, and protections for these families. In our country, marriage has been defined at the state level for 200 years, and we believe it should continue to be defined there. We repudiate President Bush's divisive effort to politicize the Constitution by pursuing a "Federal Marriage Amendment." Our goal is to bring Americans together, not drive them apart. This part of the publicly stated democratic party platform speaks for itself. I won't offer many comments because each individual reader can easily develop their own thoughts. I will simply state that a major political party adopting this stance is shocking and an assault on all people with morals. Same sex type sexual behavior was a felony in ALL states just a few years ago. Christians should be able to develop their own opinions quickly. I would simply state that it is necessary to read between the lines and determine EVERYTHING that is desired in this plank of the democratic party platform. If you think that it simply deals with same sex marriage, you would be wrong and grossly underestimating what is actually wanted. Carefully look at it word for word, and you will start getting an general idea. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: nChrist on October 14, 2006, 04:22:47 PM A Portion of the Christians Unite Forum Rules Quoted:
Quote Disrespect, mockery, or blasphemy of Almighty God, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, the Holy Bible, and Christianity are not permitted here. This would include the user name, anything in the user's profile, anything the user might post, and links to other sites that contain such material. Prohibited material obviously includes cursing, profanity, and "fill-in-the-blank" messages that suggest this material. Prohibited material also includes promotion or defense of alternate lifestyles, other religions, atheism, humanism, or other beliefs that are contrary to the teachings of the Holy Bible. Material of such types will be edited or deleted and the user may be banned. These and other rules posted by the Administrator of Christians Unite are final and not subject to debate. This is a portion of the forum rules for Christians Unite. We don't make any apology at all for these rules. They represent our respect for the Holy Bible and the things of the LORD. I give thanks that the vast majority of our members understand and respect this portion of the forum rules. They are actually just common sense rules for a Christian family forum. Some who are not Christians might have strong objections to this part of the rules and actually all portions of the rules. BUT, use of the forum is voluntary. SO, in all reality, the democratic platform violates the rules of this forum. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Soldier4Christ on October 14, 2006, 05:19:50 PM Amen Brother Tom. This is a very serious subject and one that all Christians should open their eyes to.
Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Florida_Catholic on October 14, 2006, 06:28:38 PM The argument to attack parts of the Democratic party as a defense of the immoral and dishonest behavior of numerous Republican leaders is illogical on many levels. Instead of logically defending the positions you feel you need to defend you've associated me with positions that I personally have not taken. Should I make the assumption that you should defend everything that is Republican? I think this would be a silly expectation, and I hope you don't feel that your faith mandates that you defend the Republican party even in such scandalous times as these.
The association of a particular faith with a particular political party as its sole representative in the government iis a dangerous path to tread and I don't dare to pursue that. There are a number of issues that each party or even both parties are wrong on. It's important for all Christians to understand that. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Soldier4Christ on October 14, 2006, 06:33:47 PM Quote The argument to attack parts of the Democratic party PARTS?? That is their primary platform and goals secondary only to that of total socialism. To vote for a Democrat is indeed to vote for those items that Brother Tom pointed out above. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: airIam2worship on October 15, 2006, 03:12:30 PM PARTS?? That is their primary platform and goals secondary only to that of total socialism. To vote for a Democrat is indeed to vote for those items that Brother Tom pointed out above. I have noticed that my question to Florida Catholic, has gone unanswered ::) ::) ::) ::) HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: nChrist on October 15, 2006, 06:18:07 PM The argument to attack parts of the Democratic party as a defense of the immoral and dishonest behavior of numerous Republican leaders is illogical on many levels. Instead of logically defending the positions you feel you need to defend you've associated me with positions that I personally have not taken. Should I make the assumption that you should defend everything that is Republican? I think this would be a silly expectation, and I hope you don't feel that your faith mandates that you defend the Republican party even in such scandalous times as these. The association of a particular faith with a particular political party as its sole representative in the government iis a dangerous path to tread and I don't dare to pursue that. There are a number of issues that each party or even both parties are wrong on. It's important for all Christians to understand that. ::) ::) ::) This is pathetic. I guess that you've answered our question about working as a political operative of the democratic party. You get the democratic party platform if you vote for a democrat, so I will vote for anyone but a democrat and you helped me decide. Thanks! I doubt that you will like what's about to be released. It obviously won't change your mind since you are for same sex marriage, abortion, family planning, the ACLU, the continued destruction of morals, and the shoving of GOD out of public view. There's more, but that's more than enough. I'll simply say that I hope you enjoy the surprises that are about to hit. You will probably convince many Christians to vote for anyone but a democrat, so have at it. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: airIam2worship on October 16, 2006, 04:39:36 AM Brother Tom, for all those who THINK they could thumb their nose at God. Including folks that are in favor of same sex marriage, corrupting our children by allowing them to have a mommy and mommy or a daddy and daddy, or mr. mommy and ms daddy or whatever it is they do. And those they don't corrupt they want to kill before they are even born.
::) ::) ::) This is pathetic. You get the democratic . It obviously won't change your mind since you are for same sex marriage, abortion, family planning, the ACLU, the continued destruction of morals, and the shoving of GOD out of public view. There's more, but that's more than enough. I'll simply say that I hope you enjoy the surprises that are about to hit. You will probably convince many Christians to vote for anyone but a democrat, so have at it. THIS IS WHAT THEY WILL GET Mt 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. God's Word says it not just once: Mr 9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea. Lu 17:2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones. THESE ARE THE WORDS OF JESUS CHRIST. THE CREATOR OF LIFE THE CREATOR OF MARRIAGE INSTITUTION. THE KING OF KINGS, WHO SHALL SET HIS KINGDOM ON THE EARTH HE CREATED AND DO AWAY WITH ALL UNGODLY, IMMORAL PEOPLE Oh did I forget to mention?? Our country will be run by a lot of sissies, I wonder who will defend our country, what sort of Soldiers, Marines, Sailors, Navy Seals, Airforce Men, Reserves.....................I sure am glad they will only have their way for only 7 years ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: nChrist on October 16, 2006, 08:00:29 AM AMEN SISTER MARIA!
Individual representatives who perform immoral or illegal acts should be tossed out on their ear and put in prison. Most Christians could care less what party they represent. However, there has been a trend for decades that the opposite of what should happen DOESN'T in the democratic party. They are kept and promoted in the democratic party. There are ample democratic scandals in recent years, and more will be revealed before the election. It will be interesting to watch the typical lack of action. The fascinating thing is what those who holler the loudest have to hide. It's an exercise in total hypocrisy. I don't condone or defend any of them, regardless of affiliation. Prison and unemployment should be an equal opportunity employer. I would be talking about the guilty, not a sacrifice of the innocent. In terms of morals, whoever came up with and pushed the current democratic party platform should have been tossed out the door. Instead, they were embraced, and the platform was approved and endorsed. The power of evil is the only way to explain such actions. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: airIam2worship on October 16, 2006, 08:31:50 AM Well Brother, there are those that want to say they are Christian, but that is only lip service, they also want to live immorally. They want to live life the way they want, instead of God's way.
If a person lives God's way, they will have God's results, if they live man's way they will have man's result. We all know too well the results of living man's way, just to mention a few: Man's results Homosexuality Murder Fornication Divorce STDs Hell Living God's way just to mention a few. God's results: Blessings Eternal Life Salvation Healing Heaven Anyone of God's results outweighs man's result 10 billion to one Guess which one I want :D :D :D :D :D :D Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Soldier4Christ on October 16, 2006, 02:09:24 PM John Witherspoon, signer of the Declaration of Independence:
"He is the best friend to American liberty, who is most sincere and active in promoting true and undefiled religion, and who sets himself with the greatest firmness to bear down profanity and immorality of every kind. Whoever is an avowed enemy of God, I scruple not [do not hesitate] to call him an enemy of his country." Title: Ann Coulter On The Foley Scandal Post by: nChrist on October 17, 2006, 08:10:47 AM ____________________
From The Federalist Patriot FREE E-mail Subscription: http://FederalistPatriot.US/subscribe/ ____________________ THE LAST WORD - Ann Coulter On The Foley Scandal “The object lesson of Foley’s inappropriate e-mails to male pages is that when a Republican congressman is caught in a sex scandal, he immediately resigns and crawls off into a hole in abject embarrassment. Democrats get snippy. Foley didn’t claim he was the victim of a ‘witch-hunt.’ He didn’t whine that he was a put-upon ‘gay American.’ He didn’t stay in Congress and haughtily rebuke his critics. He didn’t run for re-election. He certainly didn’t claim he was ‘saving the Constitution.’ (Although his recent discovery that he has a drinking problem has a certain Democratic ring to it.)... But Democrats are on their high horses because Republicans in the House did not immediately wiretap Foley’s phones when they found out he was engaging in e-mail chitchat with a former page about what the kid wanted for his birthday. The Democrats say the Republicans should have done all the things Democrats won’t let us do to al-Qaida—solely because Foley was rumored to be gay. Maybe we could get Democrats to support the NSA wiretapping program if we tell them the terrorists are gay.” —Ann Coulter Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Soldier4Christ on October 17, 2006, 08:15:16 AM She definitely has a wry sense of humor, especially when it come to talking about democrats.
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Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: nChrist on October 23, 2006, 01:13:56 PM ____________________
From The Federalist Patriot FREE E-mail Subscription: http://FederalistPatriot.US/subscribe/ ____________________ FOR THE RECORD “Generally, the media tell Americans that voting is important, a cherished right for which others have fought and died. The right to vote has been expanded numerous times throughout our nation’s history to include groups once disenfranchised, but now there appears to be a coordinated effort to dissuade a certain segment of Americans from voting. As I have reported to you in recent days, some on the Left are using the Mark Foley scandal to suppress turnout of conservative Christians. The Media Research Center noted that reporting on this sex scandal by the former Republican member of Congress is running at an 8-to-1 ratio over the conviction of a former Democrat member of Congress for sexual assault against a minor. In many stories, reporters editorialize on how the Foley affair will keep Christians away from the polls, while the facts appear secondary to the ‘news’.” —Gary Bauer Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Brother Jerry on October 23, 2006, 04:44:26 PM A little late to this party. But better late than never.
Quote I realize that many people will never be convinced regardless of how many scandals (Foley, Abramoff, Delay, Domestic Spying, Libby, Katrina, Abu Gharib, Iraq) come out against the party they feel they should be so loyal to The same could be said of you I am sure. When you throw in Clinton, Frank and male prostitutes, Berger attempting to make 9/11 paperwork disappear, Jackson having affair an illegitimate child, Condit and another intern, McGreevey having a gay affair, and there are more and more. We could dig them up all day long if you wanted and the only thing it proves is that both parties have humans in them. And that there is corruption in both parties. And both have histories of trying to keep their dirty laundry in their own laundry rooms. And this line: Quote Besides objective disappointments like the all-time high deficits and national debt and the recent CIA report that the War in Iraq is actually creating more terrorists (Duh!). I was trying to find what would be a "recent" report that stated anything like that and all I could find was one dated early 2005. Now either you have one that is more recent that I could not find or this was typical spin and placing a nearly 2 year old report as recent and using that to claim there are problems today. And as far as deficits. That happens in times of war when there are military ramp ups, rebuilding, and things of that nature. No one ever said that the war against terrorism was going to be free, nor did anyone ever say it was going to be over quickly. Matter of fact President Bush said it was going to be a long war. And matter of fact he said he would see it through and he has done that. What amazes me most is the mentality that the left has thrust upon our society. There is a very large "me" mentality. It all comes down to me, me, me, what is it going to cost me, what is the gment going to do for me. Instead of what am I going to do for my country, what is the gment going to do for us. No one has ever said that intelligence is infallible, no one ever said that war is a predefined amount of time, no one ever said that war was cheap. This is the same sort of mentality that cost us an easy victory in Vietnam, and even Korea. Our leaders debate and argue their support for or against openly through the public forums and cause dissent and a rift between the people. We are a country divided when it comes to our own government. When we should be supportive of it in public forums of the global media. You do not like what they are doing then let your elected officials know. But if CNN comes up to you and asks then just leave it as no comment or that you support your country. Your opinion about any elected official should be left to the polls come election time or let that official know about personally. This nations enemies watch the global media and they get more information about what makes us tick as individuals and as a nation through that. I am positive that other countries around the world have civil rifts as well, but NO other country in the world has it's dirty laundry aired to the global community when it should not be. Quote Should I make the assumption that you should defend everything that is Republican? But that is exactly what you are doing.Quote It's time for some real oversight of this Republican government that is totally out of control. Please vote Democrat in your next election. Quote The broad brush painting comes from the Republican party providing cover yet again for its members' dishonesty and endangering Americans Quote will never be convinced regardless of how many scandals (Foley, Abramoff, Delay, Domestic Spying, Libby, Katrina, Abu Gharib, Iraq) come out against the party they feel they should be so loyal to. And I stop there. On top of every post you state to vote Democrat. You are attempting to slander the entire Republican party for actions of individuals. And the same party you are holding aloft, the Democratic, is just as guilty of the same actions you have mentioned. You have attempted to lay claim that we who support our country and it's current leadership are doing so blindly and without thought. Your continued advert for "Vote Democrat" would put you in support of things that have been pointed out that are immoral and completely against the will of God. You have continually just spewed the same leftist rhetoric. Honesty in politics is hard to find. And I know I do not say that our current President is perfect. But right now he and the current administration is the best thing we have had since Reagan. Title: Re: Republican Congress Supports Pedophilia? Post by: Soldier4Christ on October 23, 2006, 05:02:55 PM Another Amen Brother Jerry.
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