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Title: Cop murder spotlights crisis of killer aliens
Post by: Soldier4Christ on September 29, 2006, 09:31:53 AM
Cop murder spotlights
crisis of killer aliens 
No government agency tracks crimes
by illegals, not even attacks on police


Charged with molesting a 12-year-old girl, Juan Leonardo Qunitero had been deported back to Mexico in 1999 as an illegal alien. Nevertheless, last week, he was back in the U.S., living comfortably in a city that prohibited police from asking anyone about their immigration status.

Rodney Johnson was a 12-year veteran on the Houston police force. Married with five children, he was big, kind-hearted and unafraid of working the toughest gang beats or late-night shifts.

On Thursday, Sept. 21, around 5:30 p.m., he pulled over a white Ford pickup driving 50 mph in a 30 mph zone in what should have been a routine traffic stop. The driver, Quintero, had neither a driver's license nor any other identification so, after a pat down, Johnson handcuffed him and placed him in the back of his patrol car. But Johnson missed the gun in Quintero's waistband. The prisoner pulled it out and fired four times at Johnson at close range.

When Johnson was laid to rest this week after his execution-style murder he joined a growing list of law enforcers gunned down by foreign criminals. Meanwhile, in Florida, a sheriff’s deputy was killed and another shot in the leg today after they pursued a motorist who ran away from a traffic stop.

Deputy Vernon Matthew “Matt” Williams and his K-9 unit were shot dead, officials said. Deputy Doug Speirs was shot in the leg but was expected to recover. Polk County sheriff’s deputies are searching for the suspect, described as a black man with a Jamaican accent with dreadlocks wearing a white or light colored shirt and dark pants.

Though no government agency in the U.S. – not the FBI nor Immigration and Customs Enforcement – tracks violent crimes by illegal aliens, even murders of police officers, a search by WND of news reports in the last three years shows law enforcement personnel are hardly immune to deadly carnage wrought by untracked, undocumented armed predators inside the country.

Less than a year ago, Nov. 12, 2005, Dallas police officer Brian Jackson met the same fate.

It seems Juan Lizcano, an illegal alien who worked as a gardener, had a few too many drinks that Saturday evening before heading to the home of Marta Cruz, according to a witness who accompanied him.

Again, police responded early Sunday morning to a domestic disturbance call at Cruz's home and were told that Lizcano had threatened his ex-girlfriend and fired a handgun inside the house. He was gone by the time officers arrived.

About 45 minutes later, officers were notified that Lizcano had returned to the home. Officers pursued him on foot as the suspect jumped over fences and ran through yards.

Officer Jackson died of a wound to his right underarm, near his protective vest, suffered in a gunfight with Lizcano. He and his wife, JoAnn, a respiratory therapist, had been married less than four months.

In Denver, Raul Gomez-Garcia, another illegal alien charged with shooting two police officers at a crowded party where both the gunmen's wife and 2-year-old daughter were seated, was convicted last week.

Gomez-Garcia, 21, faced trial in Denver District Court for second-degree murder of Denver police officer Donald "Donnie" Young and attempted first-degree murder of Detective Jack Bishop. The two officers were shot in the back May 8, 2005, as they worked security at an invitation-only baptismal party.

The officers had turned Gomez-Garcia away from the party. He returned later, intent on shooting the two officers.

Gomez-Garcia has almost no education, is illiterate and explained to investigators that he had carried a loaded gun since he was 13 years old. He came to the United States when he was 8 and lived in south central Los Angeles.

Perhaps one of the most dramatic stories of a police officer being shot by an illegal alien is the case of shooting Arizona sheriff's deputy Sean Pearce, an 11-year veteran of the force who served a search warrant Dec. 16, 2004, at a Mesa trailer home.

Hiding behind a Christmas tree inside was Jorge Luis Guerra Vargas, a 22-year-old illegal alien who shot Pearce dead.

Ironically, at the time of the shooting, Pearce's father, Russell, an Arizona legislator, was in Washington giving a speech about illegal immigration at the Brookings Institution when he got the message to call home. His wife, he knew, "wouldn't be calling if it wasn't important. It had to do with the children." Pearce excused himself from the podium and found a phone to hear the tragic news.

A WND investigation of local news reports found dozens more cases of police officers slain by illegal aliens. They include:

# Deputy Brandon "Brandy" Winfield, 29, of the Marion County, Ohio, sheriff's department, was murdered Oct. 17, 2004. Winfield was on routine patrol when he stopped to assist what he thought was a stranded motorist. Winfield later was found shot in the head in his vehicle, which had hit a guard rail and flipped into a ravine. Both of those charges in the crime were illegal aliens.

# Detective Hugo Arango, 24, of the Doroville, Ga., police department, was murdered May 13, 2000. Arango was shot and killed after having been flagged down by a club patron who indicated that some men had been breaking into cars outside of a nightclub. Detective Arango located three suspects and detained them. As he searched for weapons, Bautista Ramirez, an illegal alien from Mexico, shot Arango four times. The first shot took off one of his fingers, the second went through his thigh. As Arango lay on the ground helpless, Ramirez intentionally fired one round through Arango's badge, and then executed him with a shot to his head that severed his brain stem.

# National Park Service ranger Kristopher "Kriss" Eggle, 28, was murdered Aug. 9, 2002. Ranger Eggle was shot and killed in the line of duty at Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument while pursuing members of a drug cartel hit squad which fled into the U.S. after committing a string of murders in Mexico.

Deputy Saul Gallegos, 35, of the Chelan County, Wash., sheriff's department was murdered June 26, 2003. Gallegos was shot and killed after stopping a vehicle in a routine traffic stop. Jose Sanchez-Guillen, 22, who had been deported three times to Mexico, was found guilty of aggravated first-degree murder.

    * Deputy Sheriff David March, 33, of the Los Angeles County sheriff's department, was murdered April 29, 2002. March was on routine patrol when he made a traffic stop. The driver, Armando Garcia, shot March in the chest and the head – execution style. Garcia had been deported three times, had a long history of drug charges, violent crimes and weapons charges. The illegal alien from Mexico was already wanted for two attempted murders.

    * Officer Tony Zeppetella, 27, of the Oceanside, Calif., police department, was murdered June 13, 2003. Zeppetella stopped Adrien George Camacho for a traffic violation. Camacho pulled out a gun and shot the officer. Camacho then pistol-whipped the injured officer before shooting him again, killing him with the officer's own gun. Camacho is an illegal alien and gang member from Mexico with a criminal history that includes five previous felony convictions and several deportations.

    * A Huntsville, Ala., police officer, Daniel Howard Golden, 27, was shot multiple times by Benito Albarran, 31, an illegal immigrant in August 2005.

While no government agencies specifically track crimes by illegal aliens, there have been some efforts to quantify the loss. Last December, Mac Johnson set out to investigate the number of homicides perpetrated by illegal aliens. Since the federal government would not provide any useful information, he contacted all 50 statehouses. Three months later, he had fewer than a dozen responses. Only one state, Vermont, provided any useful information.

He then set out to statistically estimate the number of murders by illegal aliens based on available crime data and conservative estimates of the actually number of illegal aliens in the country – which, of course, nobody really knows.

He found that between 1,806 and 2,510 people in the U.S. are murdered annually by illegal aliens. If he's right, that would represent between 11 percent and 15 percent of all murders in the U.S.

In one study of a sample 55,000 illegal immigrants serving prison sentences in the U.S., it was discovered that they are responsible for over 400,000 arrests and over 700,000 felony crimes.

According to Heather McDonald of the Manhattan Institute, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.


Title: Re: Cop murder spotlights crisis of killer aliens
Post by: Brother Jerry on September 29, 2006, 04:51:46 PM
That is just amazing.  In a shocking sort of way.

So the best way to subvert a country and society is to flood it with illegals, kill off the law enforcement as well as knocking off the legal citizens and sooner or later you will own the country.

It saddens me to think that not only are there illegal immigrants in this country that are continuing in their criminal paths (they were illegal to begin with).  But that they can still open stores and business and even get government grants and things of that nature.  We let them go to our public schools and even higher institutes are granting scholarships to illegal immigrants.  All the while there are thousands if not millions of people that are abiding by the laws and trying to come to this country legally.

And the other sad part of that is that those that are waiting will end up being persecuted because of the actions of thier fellow countrymen.  And then we will have the ACLU siding with them and lawsuits will continue and the great American Way will continue to flourish (please read that as sarcasm because it is).



Title: Re: Cop murder spotlights crisis of killer aliens
Post by: Soldier4Christ on September 29, 2006, 05:12:42 PM
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All the while there are thousands if not millions of people that are abiding by the laws and trying to come to this country legally.
that will not see the assistance that the illegal aliens are getting.

Speaking of which there are many law abiding born in this nation, citizens that are not getting the assistance that the illegals are getting.



Title: Re: Cop murder spotlights crisis of killer aliens
Post by: airIam2worship on September 29, 2006, 05:30:16 PM
that will not see the assistance that the illegal aliens are getting.

Speaking of which there are many law abiding born in this nation, citizens that are not getting the assistance that the illegals are getting.



Amen, and who knows how many American tax paying citizens, abiding by the law, are going withot medical care and medicine simply because they cannot afford it. And how many more are homeless because they couldn't afford to pay their day to day living such as rent, food and basic utilities.


Title: Re: Cop murder spotlights crisis of killer aliens
Post by: Brother Jerry on October 02, 2006, 09:20:56 AM
I feel there are a couple of things that can be done that would curb the flow of illegals into the country.

First and foremost is to start penalizing severely the people that hire them to work.  First offense would be a $5,000 fine per illegal worker.  Second would be $20,000 per illegal worker, third offense would be forfiture of business and jail time (6 - 24 months).  Along with that would also require a little welfare reform as well.  There is tons of work that can be done by people on welfare.  If they want the welfare check then they should work for it.  I hate seeing the prisoners on the side of the road picking up trash when there are able bodied people sponging off the government dole that could do that and earn their checks.  And if there is work to be done in the county or other side of town there are city buses, use them to get the worker to the work.

I also think that if an illegal is here and is caught they should get 6-24 months in prison then deportation.  That may cost us some money in paying their jail time, but it keeps them where we need them and may make them think twice about coming back.  Second offense in returning would be 24-72 months, then deportation again.  And I am all for chain gangs and they would be a good use for that.  Nothing like a prison rock quarry cause I know a few driveways that could use some fresh gravel.

Call it harsh but the only reasons I hear for illegals coming is that they can find work, it is better conditions than home.  Well we have plenty of people who could use the work (if they also swallow their pride).  And if you want better conditions in your own country then work for making it a better country.


Title: Re: Cop murder spotlights crisis of killer aliens
Post by: Soldier4Christ on October 02, 2006, 09:53:07 AM
Amen to that Brother Jerry.

I don't know about other states right now but here in Illinois a person cannot stay on welfare unless they can be proven to be handicapped or unless they are actively looking for work. Thos that can work not only must be actively looking for work but they are given a short time period to find it. If they don't find employment in a certain amount of time the welfare check gets cut off and there are no second chances on that.

As for those handicapped that cannot work they are given the chance time needed to get other assistance. Many of them can still work but at a reduced rate or reduced hours which the program then gives them a job with supplemental assistance that at least brings their income up to minimum wage. Either that or at least time enough to get their Social Security or other insurance program started. Personally I have no problem with helping the handicapped in that manner.

As was stated by someone else .... a helping hand in the way of a hand up and not a hand out.

There are some illegal aliens in this area that come here and work making really good money. They use the hospitals and government facilities (schools, foodstamps, etc), then leave without paying anything and no one can track them to force them to pay as many times they don't use their real names and even if they did it is still impossible to track them down to get the money they owe.

I agree totally, make it difficult for them to be here illegally. Make the buisnesses responsible for their actions.



Title: Re: Cop murder spotlights crisis of killer aliens
Post by: Brother Jerry on October 02, 2006, 02:20:42 PM
Sounds like an awesome program.  One that should be implemented and more importantly enforced everywhere. 

I guess though the price we pay for being such a great nation is that everyone wants to jump on the bus ride but not to pay the price it cost our predicessors.  It took blood, sweat, and tears to get this country where it is.  And it drives me nuts to see the hypocrits that they talk to that try and say they are law abiding people when they broke the law to get here in the first place.  And then turn around and open a store or other business with grants and loans focused on minority groups.  Not only do they steal (and yes they are illegal to begin with and continued action is illegal...so it is stealing) from the rest of the American people but they are stealing from their brothers and sisters in nationality that have come here legally and want to try and start a legal business.  There is no end to the possible financial ramifications that illegal immigrants have.  Not only costing money in lost tax revenue, but also as this thread has the cost to imprison illegals, the cost of the lives taken, the families ruined, and so forth.  But also the cost to other immigrants who tried to live the American dream legally.  But since there was only so much money available for grants and they did not get what the needed to keep their business floating until profitability because some of that money was given to illegals...it is truly uncalcuable to determine what affects it has upon those people and their families.

I could go on and on really.  But then if I did I am sure that someone would end up offended and my name would be mud in their eye.  And if I offended anyone then I am sorry and we can continue that discussion in a more private matter if you would like.