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Title: Moses Was an Egyptian?!
Post by: Janet Williams on September 11, 2003, 01:04:00 PM
I have just read a website that puts forward the idea that Moses was, of all things, an Egyptian. They claim to put forward some evidence, but I am not qualified to make a judgement on how good this evidence is; what astounds me however, is the sheer number of claims, counterclaims and utter nonsense that continually swirls around religion.

From the site: (http://www.angelfire.com/blog/mosesegyptian/ (http://www.angelfire.com/blog/mosesegyptian/))

‘Mose’ is an Egyptian word. It means child. So you get RaMose, (literally, Ra has given a child), now usually written Ramses by Western scholars. Similarly ThutMose, now usually written Thutmes. Originally the man now known to the world as Moses would have been called Something-mose, or Something-mes. The first part of his name has been lost.

Then there’s Aaron, Moses brother. Some scholars argue it’s a version of the Hebrew word Arron, meaning Ark. But its not pronounced like that and pronunciation really matters in languages that were written without vowels. I believe the most likely source for the name is a combination of the two Egyptian words, Ra (God of the Sun) and On (the Egyptian name for the town of Heliopolis), the centre of Ra worship in ancient Egypt. His name was probably Raon......


This sounds plausible and academic, but for all we know, it could be hogwash.

What do you think?


Title: Re:Moses Was an Egyptian?!
Post by: Saved_4ever on September 11, 2003, 03:46:03 PM
It more importantly comes down to who you put your trust and faith in.  Once you can answer that, the question is easy to answer.


Title: Re:Moses Was an Egyptian?!
Post by: PhilMun on September 11, 2003, 04:32:36 PM
Hello Janet

"And the child grew, and she brought him unto Pharaoh's daughter, and he became her son. And she called his name Moses: and she said, Because I drew him out of the water." (Exodus 2:10; attributes added) Egyptian Pharaoh's daugher named him MOSES.

The Word of God, the Bible, is the base. Whenever doubt comes, you go to the Bible. Everything you need to know for a successful Christian life, until you reach heaven, is in it. For this subject, please read Exodus, the second book in the Bible (Old Testament).

By the way, are you a Christian? If not yet, I recommend this site: http://www.his-amazing-love.org/sarah.html (http://www.his-amazing-love.org/sarah.html)

Blessings!


Title: Re:Moses Was an Egyptian?!
Post by: Psalm 119 on September 12, 2003, 02:13:21 PM
Janet,

Ditto! to what Philmun just suggested. Your answer to the question is found in Exodus chapter 2. Please read, and believe the Word of God.

Psalm 119


Title: Re:Moses Was an Egyptian?!
Post by: Petro on September 12, 2003, 04:38:15 PM
I have just read a website that puts forward the idea that Moses was, of all things, an Egyptian. They claim to put forward some evidence, but I am not qualified to make a judgement on how good this evidence is; what astounds me however, is the sheer number of claims, counterclaims and utter nonsense that continually swirls around religion.

From the site: (http://www.angelfire.com/blog/mosesegyptian/ (http://www.angelfire.com/blog/mosesegyptian/))

‘Mose’ is an Egyptian word. It means child. So you get RaMose, (literally, Ra has given a child), now usually written Ramses by Western scholars. Similarly ThutMose, now usually written Thutmes. Originally the man now known to the world as Moses would have been called Something-mose, or Something-mes. The first part of his name has been lost.

Then there’s Aaron, Moses brother. Some scholars argue it’s a version of the Hebrew word Arron, meaning Ark. But its not pronounced like that and pronunciation really matters in languages that were written without vowels. I believe the most likely source for the name is a combination of the two Egyptian words, Ra (God of the Sun) and On (the Egyptian name for the town of Heliopolis), the centre of Ra worship in ancient Egypt. His name was probably Raon......


This sounds plausible and academic, but for all we know, it could be hogwash.

What do you think?
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janet,

The word Moses may be egyptian, but Moses the man, was of the tribe of Levi, and therefore an Israelite.

Note the passage of scripture at:

Ex 2
2:1  And there went a man of the house of Levi, and took to wife a daughter of Levi.
2  And the woman conceived, and bare a son: and when she saw him that he was a goodly child, she hid him three months.
3  And when she could not longer hide him, she took for him an ark of bulrushes, and daubed it with slime and with pitch, and put the child therein; and she laid it in the flags by the river's brink.
4  And his sister stood afar off, to wit what would be done to him.
5  And the daughter of Pharaoh came down to wash herself at the river; and her maidens walked along by the river's side; and when she saw the ark among the flags, she sent her maid to fetch it.
6  And when she had opened it, she saw the child: and, behold, the babe wept. And she had compassion on him, and said, This is one of the Hebrews' children.
7  Then said his sister to Pharaoh's daughter, Shall I go and call to thee a nurse of the Hebrew women, that she may nurse the child for thee?
8  And Pharaoh's daughter said to her, Go. And the maid went and called the child's mother.
9  And Pharaoh's daughter said unto her, Take this child away, and nurse it for me, and I will give thee thy wages. And the woman took the child, and nursed it.
10  And the child grew, and she brought him unto Pharaoh's daughter, and he became her son. And she called his name Moses: and she said, Because I drew him out of the water.
11  And it came to pass in those days, when Moses was grown, that he went out unto his brethren, and looked on their burdens: and he spied an Egyptian smiting an Hebrew, one of his brethren.............................

Why listen to the worlds explanantion of who and what Biblical characters, are or are not...

If ever you desire to know anything of them, read it in the Bible, you will get the account first hand.

Blessings,

Petro




Title: Re:Moses Was an Egyptian?!
Post by: Allinall on September 13, 2003, 01:49:39 AM
I think you may find great amounts of empirical evidence that Moses was Egyptian.  Why?  Because he was the adopted son of Pharoah's daughter.  But as to whether or not he was Hebrew, gotta go with Saved on this one.  It's a matter of faith.  Do you believe God or man?  :)