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Title: Racism and Abortion go Hand in Hand
Post by: darwinatridge on June 24, 2006, 04:41:10 PM
One of the post on another sight asked if abortion was a sin. I fully believe that is so. Most people simply do not or refuse to understand the evil nature behind the abortion movement. In many of the articles that I have posted on my websites I explain what this evil is all about. My latest article is very contriversial but is designed to open the eyes of those that have kept them closed for far to long. The fight against racism belongs to every living being on this planet. To turn your back on the truth is the worst of these sins. And unfortunately, even many Christians have done that.


Article Against Racism By: Darwin Anthony
For an open discussion on this article go to my website and us the links and you can also read the article in its entirety.


Kill All Blacks, Mexicans and Jews!!!!

Let me ask you something. Does the above statement offend you? If it does, GOOD. Because it should offend anyone who hears and sees such statements. If it does not offend you then you are the one with the problem. Let me ask you something else. Does such a statement make any since to you at all?  It shouldn't. Yet by the end of the 1800's this was the exact attitude that was being promoted by the Socialist Elitist that where promoting Darwinism. Somehow this group of elitist was able to convince members of the black community that it was in their best interest to participate in their own destruction. I find it hard to understand the mind of a bigot. Even though there are even members of my own family who are some of the biggest bigots that I know. What I find even more appalling is the acceptance of these Neo-Nazi statements of these Socialist Elitist and the denials by Socialist that these statements ever happened. I have watched and listened to many people who have deliberately brushed off these charges because Socialism fits into their agenda. And it does not seem to bother them that there are policies of bigotry woven into the very fabric of Socialism. Bigotry has never died in America and it will fight to destroy as many lives as it can before the Lord finally puts an end to it with His second coming. But as hard as it is for me to understand the mind of a bigot, it is even harder for me to understand anyone who would participate in the destruction of ones own race. Whither it be black, white, or any other ethnic background. And what is worse is the fact that many of these people have tied themselves to a political party that has adopted the philosophies of some of the worst bigots in history. There are many right now who automatically assume that I am talking about the Republican party but you are dead wrong. Although the Republican Party does have its share of bigots it by know means has adopted the philosophies of one of the worse bigots in American history. And by no means has it ever adopted the philosophies of one of the worst murderers in history. No I am not talking about Adolf Hitler. Although he was a devote Socialist he is not the worst of the worst. Although there are some in the Republican Party who are socialist, the party as a whole does not subscribe to the views of socialism. Many people think that socialism holds a view point that all are equal in society. This however is far from the truth. As I said Hitler was a socialist. Other notable socialist included the likes of Stalin who butchered many of his own people. More recently in history we have Saddam Hussain who's Socialist Bath Party butchered hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's. What did these men have in common. The same thing that all Socialist have in common. They were elitist. But the question is, where did they get their philosophies from. Ultimately they adopted them from the socialist elitism agenda that Margaret Sanger helped prefect. Those on the left simply refuse to acknowledge that this is true but the evidence is overwhelming. So what do they do to refute this evidence? They twist the truth and claim that those on the right do nothing but promote hatred through the bible. They seek to make Gods word irrelevant and seek to make it politically correct. There is nothing irrelevant about sin. Nor is there anything politically correct about Gods word. God has given us all a chance by sending His Son to die on the cross for all of us. While you are still breathing you have that chance to receive forgiveness for your sins. The bible tells us what sin is but more to the point, God has given each of us the ability to understand right and wrong. Many however have turned away from doing what is right in Gods eye's, to doing what they want to believe is right in their own eyes. The philosophies of Margaret Sanger have been adopted by the liberals and used to kill millions of babies. So what do the Social elite do to appease their guilt. They claim that these babies are nothing but a piece of meat until they are actually born. The answer to how God feels about these unborn babies is clearly given to us in the bible.

1. In Luke 1:36 we read that Elizabeth had "conceived a son." Notice that the "product of conception," as pro-abortionist  would call "it," is simply called a "baby."

2. In Matthew 1:18, 23 and Luke 1:31 Mary is said to be "with child." This fulfilled the prophecy found in Isaiah 7:14 The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son.

3. When Rebekah conceived twins, it says, "the children struggled together within her..." (Genesis 25:22)

The unborn child is also referred to as a separate being, apart from the mother.

1. The unborn child is able to sense such feelings as "joy," etc. Luke 1:44, 45 Elizabeth's "baby leaped in [her] womb for joy."

2. The unborn baby, independent of the mother, made movements ("leaped") – so "it" cannot be reduced to merely a "part of the woman's body" – a necessary step in reducing the issue to that of "a woman's right."
  3. When Rebekah conceived, "the (twin) children struggled together within her..." (Genesis 25:22) They "struggled," not she. This reinforces the fact that the unborn child is a separate being apart from the mother. (See also Romans 9:10-11.)


And in Jeremiah 1:5 God states that the child even has a soul. "While you were being formed in the belly of the womb," God told the prophet Jeremiah, "I knew you and ordained (intended for) you to be a prophet to the nations."

 (Links removed due to linking to material too graphic for a family Christian forum)

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Title: Re: Racism and Abortion go Hand in Hand
Post by: Soldier4Christ on June 24, 2006, 06:15:55 PM
darwin,

I disagree with your comments on racism. Abortion goes far beyond racism. It is targeted at all races in the world. Margaret Sanders objective was not just blacks, mexicans etc. She targeted her abortion agenda against all people that were poor and that includes those of all races.

Abortion is one of the most objectional things that this world could do to the little ones of this world and one that as Christians we should do all we can within the law to stop it but it is not a racial agenda.



Title: Re: Racism and Abortion go Hand in Hand
Post by: Shammu on June 24, 2006, 06:26:14 PM
darwin, Sorry, I do, and have to disagree with you. Racism and Abortion do not, go hand in hand.  Abortion, is murder, plain, and simple.  Racism is the belief, that one race is superior to all others.


Title: Re: Racism and Abortion go Hand in Hand
Post by: Soldier4Christ on June 24, 2006, 06:43:37 PM
Statistics show that abortions accomplished through Planned Parenthood (Margaret Sanders foundation) that more whites have had abortions than any other races put together. Just one year for example  ....  the year 2000 whites 334,180    blacks  214,212 all other 41,669



Title: Re: Racism and Abortion go Hand in Hand
Post by: darwinatridge on June 24, 2006, 07:06:33 PM
It is very unfortunate that any race of babies has been aborted. However if you look at Margaret Sangers and Adolf Hitlers comments in context, their intention was to create a superior race. That is racism and they both intended to use abortion to accomplish that goal. It did not matter to them if most whites also aborted there children because they also included many whites in that catigory of undisirables.


Title: Re: Racism and Abortion go Hand in Hand
Post by: Shammu on June 24, 2006, 07:47:31 PM
darwin,  is a few little known facts of Hitler.

Hitler was baptized as Roman Catholic during infancy in Austria.  As Hitler approached boyhood he attended a monastery school.  On his way to school young Adolf daily observed a stone arch which was carved with the monastery’s coat of arms bearing a swastika.  As a young man he was confirmed as a “soldier of Christ.”  His most ardent goal at the time was to become a priest.  Hitler writes of his love for the church and clergy:
Quote from: Adolf Hitler
“I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals.  As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal.”
Hitler worked CLOSELY with Pope Pius in converting Germanic society and supporting the church.  The Church absorbed Nazi ideals and preached them as part of their sermons in turn Hitler placed Catholic teachings in public education.  Due to Hitler’s involvement with the Church he began enacting doctrines of the Church as law.  He outlawed all abortion, raged a death war on all homosexuals, and demanded corporal punishment in schools and home.

Hitler’s anti-Semitism grew out of his Christian education.  Austria and Germany were majorly Christian during his time and they held the belief that Jews were an inferior status to Aryan Christians.  The Christians blamed the Jews for the killing of Jesus.  Jewish hatred did not actually spring from Hitler, it came from the preaching of Catholic priests and Protestant ministers throughout Germany for hundreds of years.

The Protestant leader, Martin Luther, himself, held a livid hatred for Jews and their Jewish religion.  In his book, “On the Jews and their Lies,” Luther set the standard for Jewish hatred in Protestant Germany up until World War 2.  Hitler expressed a great admiration for Martin Luther constantly quoting his works and beliefs.


Title: Re: Racism and Abortion go Hand in Hand
Post by: darwinatridge on June 24, 2006, 08:09:58 PM
If you look at demand #24 you will note that he wanted a positive Christianity that was state controlled. This positive Christianity was directed toward plitical correctness for the state and the German people. As for abortion. He outlawed abortions for the German people but used abortions to exterminate any one that where not citizens of the German empire. A lot of this nonsence below sounds a whole lot like what is going on today in America. Margaret Sanger adopted the beliefs of the teachings of Charles Darwin, Galton and Malthus. These beliefs considerd blacks and other races of people sub-human. And Margaret Sanger considered only 14% of the people in America fit enough to have children. Everyone else was condidered either morons or unfit and should have been kept in consitration camps and used as slave labor or eliminated all together.

The Programme of the German Workers' Party is designed to be of limited duration. The leaders have no intention, once the aims announced in it have been achieved, of establishing fresh ones, merely in order to increase, artificially, the discontent of the masses and so ensure the continued existence of the Party.

1. We demand the union of all Germany in a Greater Germany on the basis of the right of national self-determination.

2. We demand equality of rights for the German people in its dealings with other nations, and the revocation of the peace treaties of Versailles and Saint-Germain.

3. We demand land and territory (colonies) to feed our people and to settle our surplus population.

4. Only members of the nation may be citizens of the State. Only those of German blood, whatever be their creed, may be members of the nation. Accordingly, no Jew may be a member of the nation.

5. Non-citizens may live in Germany only as guests and must be subject to laws for aliens.

6. The right to vote on the State's government and legislation shall be enjoyed by the citizens of the State alone. We demand therefore that all official appointments, of whatever kind, whether in the Reich, in the states or in the smaller localities, shall be held by none but citizens.

We oppose the corrupting parliamentary custom of filling posts merely in accordance with party considerations, and without reference to character or abilities.

7. We demand that the State shall make it its primary duty to provide a livelihood for its citizens. If it should prove impossible to feed the entire population, foreign nationals (non-citizens) must be deported from the Reich.

8. All non-German immigration must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who entered Germany after 2 August 1914 shall be required to leave the Reich forthwith.

9. All citizens shall have equal rights and duties.

10. It must be the first duty of every citizen to perform physical or mental work. The activities of the individual must not clash with the general interest, but must proceed within the framework of the community and be for the general good.

We demand therefore:


11. The abolition of incomes unearned by work.

The breaking of the slavery of interest


12. In view of the enormous sacrifices of life and property demanded of a nation by any war, personal enrichment from war must be regarded as a crime against the nation. We demand therefore the ruthless confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations (trusts).

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industrial enterprises.

15. We demand the extensive development of insurance for old age.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle class, the immediate communalizing of big department stores, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders, and that the utmost consideration shall be shown to all small traders in the placing of State and municiple orders.

17. We demand a land reform suitable to our national requirements, the passing of a law for the expropriation of land for communal purposes without compensation; the abolition of ground rent, and the prohibition of all speculation in land. *

18. We demand the ruthless prosecution of those whose activities are injurious to the common interest. Common criminals, usurers, profiteers, etc., must be punished with death, whatever their creed or race.

19. We demand that Roman Law, which serves a materialistic world order, be replaced by a German common law.

20. The State must consider a thorough reconstruction of our national system of education (with the aim of opening up to every able and hard-working German the possibility of higher education and of thus obtaining advancement). The curricula of all educational establishments must be brought into line with the requirements of practical life. The aim of the school must be to give the pupil, beginning with the first sign of intelligence, a grasp of the nation of the State (through the study of civic affairs). We demand the education of gifted children of poor parents, whatever their class or occupation, at the expense of the State.

21. The State must ensure that the nation's health standards are raised by protecting mothers and infants, by prohibiting child labor, by promoting physical strength through legislation providing for compulsory gymnastics and sports, and by the extensive support of clubs engaged in the physical training of youth.

22. We demand the abolition of the mercenary army and the foundation of a people's army.

23. We demand legal warfare on deliberate political mendacity and its dissemination in the press. To facilitate the creation of a German national press we demand:

(a) that all editors of, and contributors to newspapers appearing in the German language must be members of the nation;
(b) that no non-German newspapers may appear without the express permission of the State. They must not be printed in the German language;
(c) that non-Germans shall be prohibited by law from participating financially in or influencing German newspapers, and that the penalty for contravening such a law shall be the suppression of any such newspaper, and the immediate deportation of the non-Germans involved.

The publishing of papers which are not conducive to the national welfare must be forbidden. We demand the legal prosecution of all those tendencies in art and literature which corrupt our national life, and the suppression of cultural events which violate this demand.

24. We demand freedom for all religious denominations in the State, provided they do not threaten its existence not offend the moral feelings of the German race.

The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not commit itself to any particular denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and without us, and is convinced that our nation can achieve permanent health only from within on the basis of the principle: The common interest before self-interest.

25. To put the whole of this programme into effect, we demand the creation of a strong central state power for the Reich; the unconditional authority of the political central Parliament over the entire Reich and its organizations; and the formation of Corporations based on estate and occupation for the purpose of carrying out the general legislation passed by the Reich in the various German states.

The leaders of the Party promise to work ruthlessly -- if need be to sacrifice their very lives -- to translate this programme into action.



Title: Re: Racism and Abortion go Hand in Hand
Post by: Soldier4Christ on June 24, 2006, 08:43:13 PM
No matter how you look at it the main thing behind it all is pure and simple evil. The ACLU, Planned Parenthood, Hitler, islam all have the same thing in common and that is they are all evil and want the end of all that is good.





Title: Re: Racism and Abortion go Hand in Hand
Post by: Shammu on June 24, 2006, 08:52:58 PM
No matter how you look at it the main thing behind it all is pure and simple evil. The ACLU, Planned Parenthood, Hitler, islam all have the same thing in common and that is they are all evil and want the end of all that is good.




Yup, yup, yup, and yup again!!!


Title: Re: Racism and Abortion go Hand in Hand
Post by: Kelly4Jesus on June 29, 2006, 03:47:13 PM
I grew up in the inner city, in a place called Lowell, Massachusetts (home of Betty Davis, Whistler and Ed Mcmahon--okay, so we dont pride ourselves on Ed too much). The city is called a melting pot do to it having so many nationalities and sections that boast ethnicity. I saw both of these topics in full view for most of my life.

Racism is a learned trait. Abortion is murder. Racism can be conquered if eyes and hearts are opened with the faith of a child--for as children, we didn't have racism, but our parents would teach it to us by their words and actions. I praise Jesus for having my grandmother raise me, who was not in the slightest bit prejudice. My mother, on the other hand was and, had she raised me I would have felt the same way she did. As a child, you follow the examples of your parents and how they feel and react to situations.

Abortion, in most cases where I grew up was done out of fear. Young girls did this so their parents would not find out. There were incidences of it being used as birth control as well. Even the most devout Catholic could be scared by "freedom of choice", and the wrath of their parents into having an abortion. As you closed in with bigger cities where prostitution and such, it was used as type of birth control.

However, unlike prejudice which can be changed with open eyes and open heart, once you have an abortion, there is no turning back. It is murder and it is final. There is no comparison between the two except--

Both are against the laws of God and teachings of our our Savior, Jesus Christ.

God Bless,
Kelly