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Title: TheLand&DNA Post by: Hitch on August 28, 2003, 10:15:48 PM Some argue that many and possibly a majority of modern jews are not of semitic origen
Modern science may prove this one way or another in the near future. Noting that the so-called Land Promises are based on blood lines Im curious whether anyone would be troubled if a large fraction or even a majority of modern jews turned out to have no linear connection to Abe at all. Take care Hitch Title: Re:TheLand&DNA Post by: longdog on August 31, 2003, 08:37:36 AM Semitic: 1) Of, or relating to the Semites, esp. the Jews. 2) Of or relating to the languages of the family including Hebrew and Arabic.
Who are these 'many' that are doing the arguing, what evidence if any do they have for this argument and what is the motivation behind it? Title: Re:TheLand&DNA Post by: Knox on August 31, 2003, 11:50:14 AM I read somewhere that the Ashkenazi Jews are descended from a group of people in what is now southern Russia that converted to Judaism in the 9th century or so. They speak Yiddish, which is a Germanic language, and the claim is that they are unrelated to the Israelites. Whether this is true or not I don't know. I brought it up on another forum and all hell broke loose!
Title: Re:TheLand&DNA Post by: longdog on August 31, 2003, 12:41:55 PM I read somewhere that the moon was made of green cheese.
It ain't neccessarily so. ;D Title: Re:TheLand&DNA Post by: Knox on August 31, 2003, 03:00:07 PM I read somewhere that the moon was made of green cheese. Wow apparently this is quite a controversy. There are many sites with different opinions. I'm not so sure the claim can be dismissed so easily. A Resource for Turkic and Jewish History in Russia and Ukraine http://www.khazaria.com/ (http://www.khazaria.com/) Title: Re:TheLand&DNA Post by: longdog on August 31, 2003, 04:43:53 PM I'm not saying it's not true just I wanted to see some information on the subject which you have now thoughtfully provided. I'll read that later, thankyou.
Now, about this whole moon-cheese thing :) Title: Re:TheLand&DNA Post by: Hitch on August 31, 2003, 07:33:19 PM Semitic: 1) Of, or relating to the Semites, esp. the Jews. 2) Of or relating to the languages of the family including Hebrew and Arabic. I've heard this ever since I can remember and never paid much attention.Who are these 'many' that are doing the arguing, what evidence if any do they have for this argument and what is the motivation behind it? I do know the basic premise. : The people we normally recognize as 'jews' by cultural factors and appearence are jews by conversion rather than blood. Originating in Eastern Europe . Of course I would have no idea wrt anyone's motivations. The purpose here is not to examine whether the idea itself is valid, but to examine the 'what if'. especially as to how this could,or not, relate to eschatology. Take care Hitch Title: Re:TheLand&DNA Post by: Hitch on August 31, 2003, 07:40:48 PM I read somewhere that the Ashkenazi Jews are descended from a group of people in what is now southern Russia that converted to Judaism in the 9th century or so. They speak Yiddish, which is a Germanic language, and the claim is that they are unrelated to the Israelites. Whether this is true or not I don't know. I brought it up on another forum and all hell broke loose! Thanx Knox I couldnt remember the word AshkenaziOddly enough I had exactly the opposite reaction. I was told by a strongly pro-Israel dispensationalist that this was common knowledge and had no bearing whatsover eschatologically speaking. My piont here is that I would think modern science could prove this one way or another. And let the chips fall where they may. I know the mormons have claimed that American Indians are the Ten Lost Tribes, but I dounbt anyone ever took it seriously enough to setle it through DNA. take care Hitch |