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Pakistani journalist who met bin Laden confirms al-Qaida nukes, says they may already be in U.S.


Al-Qaida has already obtained nuclear suitcase weapons from the Russian black market, weapons tested in Afghanistan in 2000, and they may have already been forward-deployed inside the U.S., according to the only journalist to interview Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri in the wake of Sept. 11.

Last week, Hamid Mir's credibility skyrocketed when he accurately predicted in Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin and later in WND the imminent release of a new recorded communiqué from bin Laden through al-Jazeera, the Arabic TV network. Two days later, bin Laden's tape was the focus of international news coverage.

"If you think that my information and analysis about bin Laden's location is correct," said Hamid Mir, "then please don't underestimate my analysis about his nuclear threat also."

Mir said that he met with an Egyptian engineer last week who lost an eye after one of bin Laden's nuclear tests in the Kunar province of Pakistan. The Pakistani journalist said the encounter with the engineer greatly disturbed and depressed him since it provided further assurance that a nuclear nightmare for America is about to dawn.

Mir believes that an "American Hiroshima" will occur as soon as the U.S. launches an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities.

"Al-Qaida and Iran," he says, "have a long, secret relationship." "American Hiroshima" is the name al-Qaida leaders chose for their long-planned nuclear attack on the U.S.

The relationship between Iran and bin Laden dates back to June 21, 1996, when bin Laden attended a terror summit in Tehran. The gathering attracted terror leaders from various places throughout the world, including Ramadan Shallah (the Palestinian Islamic Jihad), Ahmad Salah (Egyptian Islamic Jihad), Imad al-Alami and Mustafa al-Liddawi (Hamas), Ahmad Jibril (Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine), Abdallah Ocalan (the Kurdish People Party), Muhammad Ali Ahmad (al Qaida), and Imad Mugniyah (Hezbollah). The summit resulted in the creation of the "Committee of Three" that would meet on a regular basis for the "coordination, planning and execution of attacks" against the United States and Israel. The committee members were Ahmad Salah, Imad Mugniyah and bin Laden.

Mir's position that al-Qaida's nuclear weapons may have already been forward-deployed to the United States confirms the report of Sharif al-Masri, a key al-Qaida operative who was arrested in Pakistan in November 2000.

Al Masri, an Egyptian national with ties to al-Zawahiri, said that al-Qaida had made arrangements to smuggle nuclear weapons and supplies to Mexico. From Mexico, he said, the weapons were to be transported across the border and into the United States with the help of a Latino street gang.

Mir also maintains that numerous sleeper agents are in place in major cities throughout the United States to prepare for the nuclear holocaust. Many of these agents, he says, are Algerians and Chechens who obtained European passports and are posing as Christian and Jews.

He further says that many of these agents have been in the United States since bin Laden's issuance of his "Declaration of War on Americans Occupying the Country of the Two Holy Places." That fatwa was issued Aug. 23, 1996.

Well well....   do we want to go into a discussion wheter the nuke will explode before or after the (pre-trib) rapture....

I'm interesting in that angle; since I would like to determine the line where the nuicance stops and the wrath begins.

/me thinks several nucleair detonations are beyond the point of 'slight irritation' moving well within the scope of 'wrath'... ?

When this article is right the nucleair attacks on both the EU and the US might take place in the wee hours of a first US strike on Iran, until after the (aerial) invasion where once again one might declare that 'major combat operations' will have ceased on Iranian soil.

2b

Don't say "I told you so just yet", twobombs. This article has not been verified as of yet. Whether it is true or false be ready watching and waiting.

http://www.google.co.za/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&q=%22american+hiroshima%22&btnG=Search&meta=

google on "american hiroshima" generates 51.000 hits  ; as i've stated before the proof will be in the (radioactive) pudding

Brother, you really need to stop worrying about America, and worry about where you are. You keep prophetizing, and your so close to doing what Matthew 24:4-5 says. 4Jesus answered them, Be careful that no one misleads you [deceiving you and leading you into error].  For many will come in (on the strength of) My name [appropriating the name which belongs to Me], saying, I am the Christ (the Messiah), and they will lead many astray.
Matthew 24:6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that you are not frightened or troubled, for this must take place, but the end is not yet.

Yes you have stated so many times on when the Rapture is, and even taken guesses at when the Rapture happens. But you still haven't gotten it brother, Matthew 24:36 But of that [exact] day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Mark 13:32 But of that day or that hour not a [single] person knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Amen Brother Bob. No one knows and no one will know when that time is but God himself until that time actually happens. Anyone that that tries to place a time on it is nothing more than a false prophet/teacher.

I know brother, and that is sad. That a Christian would try and second guess God. :'(

It is quite possible for major war to occur before the rapture, that's when the antichrist appears and put a stop to it, making himself out to be a "god" and a peacemaker. That is the platform he arrives on, a peacemaker.

However, we will most certainly be whisked away prior to satan's appearance. So the question is legitimate. Will the rapture occur before major war? or during major war and prior to satan's arrival?

It is my opinion that the rapture will occur prior to major war. Afterall, God didn't wait until the water was up to Noah's neck before He rescured him did He? ;) No, God got Noah and his family in the boat prior to the storm.

Twobombs, I don't know about you sometimes my friend. It seems like you take pleasure in the thought that the U.S. is going to be destroyed. You don't really believe Australia will be left along if that happens do you? :o


John

DW, I agree with you NO one knows when that day will come.

 1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
 2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
(KJV)

If a thief warned you what day and time he was comming wouldn't you be there waiting  for him, twobombs??

If the U.S. is destroyed there will be many other countries that will be destroyed right along with us or at least very shortly thereafter.

The last few years I've been talking endlessly regarding

The insanity of the Pre-trib rapture
The insanity of the USA being God's reconing arm in the last days against those bad terrorists.
The insanity of the roadmap to peace for Israel.
The insanity of the EU/French being traitors.
The insanity of the dependance on oil, and the war that is waged upon it.

And some posts above this one I am confronted with a very old one :
The mindlessness of calling someone a false teacher/prophet/christ whilst he is your brother

Yes, he might differ, but don't burn him because of your opinions and views; this on it's own term will bring damnation upon us all; who was it that said : bless and pray for your enemies; forgive those who do evil to you ( 9/11 ) but no, it's all warmongering and propaganda to blow those 'evil' people to h*ll

I don't enjoy that mentality and will fight, pray against it until my last breath !
ignorance is bliss they say: I don't want to be ignorant ! Nor enter winter in a t-shirt expecting the rapture.

And fortunately i'm not alone : people like Alex Jones, Jim Searcy, Mr. Shearer and many, many more will give their last breath for the fight to this cause.
To wake people up, and decontaminise those that are poisoned with propaganda, lies and doctrines.

What I bring is not a doctrine; what I answered in this thread has been confirmed 51000 times on the Internet. What confirmation is pastor Roger waiting for ?  The only confirmation beyond this point in time is the actual detonation itself; many believe so much stuff that in a militairy sense makes no sense ; but is sold to all, and bevieved by (almost) all.

I never called you personally a false prophet/teacher. I said that anyone that attempts to place a time on such is a false prophet/teacher. This is a very Biblical statement because Jesus Himself said it  ....



Mat 24:4  And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.



Mat 24:36  But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.



To argue that is to argue against God himself.

 

Brother, when you use satans tools, like you do, it is wrong. It has been proven time and time again that the Bible codes are satans tools.

This is right off your webpage.
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Part #7 The BibleCode

Computers have made it possible to search the scripture for words that are written in certain sections of the bible.

Apparently the rapture is also found together with a year.
" In a nutshell folks bible code says the 7 years of tribulation starts in 2006, and terminates with Christ's second coming in 2012 with 2013 being a jubilee year which occurs once every fifty years and begins the millenium. The Jews taking back Israel was predicted by Jeremiah in 6th century BC. It happened in 1948 which was a sabbath year which occurs every seven years. Two sabbath years hence plus one began a jubilee year, a six day war in which the Israelis recovered much property they lost centuries earlier. The significance is when a jubliee year occurs, all property is supposed to be returned to it's original owner. The next jubilee year is 50 years from 1963 then, 2013 if you wish, when the earth is returned to God.
Bible code seems to support this."
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What about when the Bibnle codes are wrong. I checked and it says, Laura Bush would be killed in 2005. Well she isn't dead, and it is 2006 now.

The Bible Code also argues against itself. It has also been found in the Bible code where it says the Bible Code is false. In one place it called President Bush the antiChrist and yet in another place it called him the Christ. As for the date of tribulation starting the Bible code references at least three different dates for it starting. The Bible code also said that the world was supposed to have been destroyed by a meterite in the lat 1990's. It is definitely false and anyone that teaches according to it and against the Bible itself  is teach falsely.

2b, date setting is dangerous, because if one is wrong, it only leads to further disbelief by those who are listening thus doing more harm than good.  Not only that, some will get the impression that they have some knowledge to set a date that is clearly not mentioned in scripture. 

How many times have there been dates set in the past where large numbers of people were told the rapture would happen and went about selling their belongings and quiting their jobs because of certain numbers, dates and jewish festivities?

Jesus Christ Himself told us that only the Father knows the day, and the hour. But Jesus also told us to watch for the signs, and to know when the time is "near".

Some people completely disregard this statement by Jesus Himself, and actually believe they can nail down the exact day, and hour. We can not do it. All we can do is read and understand God's word at face value. Doing that, we are able to see certain puzzle pieces as they fall into place, and we are able to know when the time is "near" by seeing these puzzle pieces fall into place. Once one piece falls onto the table, we can sometimes know which piece will fall next by understanding the scriptures, but we will never see the completed puzzle until it is in it's entirety and on the table. We can not forsee what it will look like, until it is completed by God.

John

Amen brother.

Add another AMEN brother.

Tell that to the 3 magi that greeted the Child using both astrological & scriptual techniques.

It has been done, proving that it it can be done, and it will be done again; but yes, if you would like to know it later....  hindsight is (always) 20-20.

The bible is always right; it must be and remain your pimairy source and force; there are secondary sources of information; such as newspapers, and yes; "signs in the sun, moon and stars", and yes, even biblecode can prove to be accurate in hindsight .

But aside from that, the bible is always right; even when the whole world is wrong. When the bible states in Dan 8 that Iran is going to be bombed; then Iran is going to be bombed. When, according to Dan 8. the USA with feel very strong and proud of what they have accomplished and shortly after that loses it's strenght, then they will lose their strenght.

I personally believe that as the topic of this thread states that the bible confirms that  'American Hiroshima' is linked with a future attack on Iran.

No you said that 2b not us. You were also told that this article has not been verified as of yet. Yet you ignored that 2b, and went on.

The you said that America would attack Iran. How do you know an attack is planned? The attack is planned by Iran, on Israel, not the United States. Although America may get hit because of her support of Israel.

3,600,000 hits for Iran attacks Israel, Biblical (http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hs=bjT&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=biblical%2Ciran+attacks+israel+&btnG=Search) Yup Iran will be pudding after the Lord finishes with her.

And yet the Bible talks about this. America isn't even mentioned in the Bible. The road map for peace, is after the start of the Tribulation.

Now then don't get me started on the French. After all, they have shot there allies in the back in WW2. And I do mean that literally, they have shot there allies.

You are only prooving your confusion by useing such remarks my friend.

Yes, Biblical prophecy can be used to know future events, that's one of the major reasons God gives us profetic messages.
However, we are specifically talking about the start of tribulation twobombs. You foolishly have set specific dates, and have been wrong! That should be a wake up call for you to escape whatever cult it is that you have dug yourself into.
The Word of God is NEVER wrong. You keep saying the Bible is the one and only final authority, and yet you keep ignoring the following scriptures...

Some men, in their arrogance, set dates for the second coming even though God's Word clearly states we will not know...
 
Matthew 24:36  "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only."  Perhaps you are the Father twobombs?

Luke 21:35 "For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. "

Mat 25:13. "For ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh"

Mat 24:42 "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come".

The following is a list of some past failed attempts at date settings.

53 AD
Even before all the books of the Bible were written, there was talk that Christ's return had already taken place. The Thessalonians panicked on Paul when they heard a rumor that the day of the Lord was at hand, and they had missed the rapture.

500
A Roman priest living in the second century predicted Christ would return in 500 AD, based on the dimensions of Noah's ark.

1000
This year goes down as one of the most heightened periods of hysteria over the return of Christ. All members of society seemed affected by the prediction that Jesus was coming back at the start of the new millennium. None of the events required by the Bible were transpiring at that time; the magic of the number 1000 was the sole reason for the expectation. During concluding months of 999 AD, everyone was on his best behavior; worldly goods were sold and given to the poor; swarms of pilgrims headed east to meet the Lord at Jerusalem; buildings went unrepaired; crops were left unplanted; and criminals were set free from jails. When the year 999 AD turned into 1000 AD, nothing happened.

1033
This year was cited as the beginning of the millennium because it marked 1,000 years since Christ's crucifixion.

1186
The "Letter of Toledo" warned everyone to hide in the caves and mountains. The world was reportedly to be destroyed with only a few spared.

1420
The Taborites of Czechoslovakia predicted every city would be annihilated by fire. Only five mountain strongholds would be saved.

1524-1526
Muntzer, a leader of German peasants, announced that the return of Christ was near. After Muntzer and his men destroyed the high and mighty, the Lord would supposedly return. This belief led to an uneven battle against government troops. He was strategically outnumbered. Muntzer claimed to have had a vision from God in which the Lord promised that He would catch the cannonballs of the enemy in the sleeves of His cloak. The prediction within the vision turned out to be false when Muntzer and his followers were mowed down by cannon fire.

1534
A repeat of the Muntzer affair occurred a few years later. This time, Jan Matthys took over the city of Munster. The city was to be the only one spared from destruction. The inhabitants of Munster, chased out by Matthys and his men, regrouped and lay siege to the city. Within a year, everyone in the city was dead.

1650-1660
The Fifth Monarchy Men looked for Jesus to establish a theocracy. They took up arms and tried to seize England by force. The movement died when the British monarchy was restored in 1660.

1666
For the citizens of London, 1666 was not a banner year. A bubonic plague outbreak killed 100,000 and the Great Fire of London struck the same year. The world seemed at an end to most Londoners. The fact that the year ended with the Beast's number—666--didn't help matters.

1809
Mary Bateman, who specialized in fortune telling, had a magic chicken that laid eggs with end-time messages on them. One message said that Christ was coming. The uproar she created ended when an unannounced visitor caught her forcing an egg into the hen's oviduct. Mary later was hanged for poisoning a wealthy client. History does not record whether the offended chicken attended the hanging.

1814
Spiritualist Joanna Southcott made the startling claim that she, by virgin birth, would produce the second Jesus Christ. Her abdomen began to swell and so did the crowds of people around her. The time for the birth came and passed; she died soon after. An autopsy revealed she had experienced a false pregnancy.

1836
John Wesley wrote that "the time, times and half a time" of Revelation 12:14 were 1058­1836, "when Christ should come" (A. M. Morris, The Prophecies Unveiled, p. 361).

1843-1844
William Miller was the founder of an end-times movement that was so prominent it received its own name, Millerism. From his studies of the Bible, Miller determined that the second coming would happen sometime between 1843-1844. A spectacular meteor shower in 1833 gave the movement a good push forward. The buildup of anticipation continued until March 21, 1844, when Miller's one-year timetable ran out. Some followers set another date--Oct 22, 1844. This too failed, collapsing the movement. One follower described the days after the failed predictions: "The world made merry over the old Prophet's predicament. The taunts and jeers of the 'scoffers' were well-nigh unbearable."

1859
Rev. Thomas Parker, a Massachusetts minister, looked for the millennium to start about 1859.

1881
Someone called Mother Shipton had, 400 years earlier, claimed that the world would end in 1881. A controversy hangs over the Shipton writings as to whether or not publishers doctored the text. If the date was wrong, should it matter anyway?

1910
The revisit of Halley's comet was, for many, an indication of the Lord's second coming. The earth actually passed through the gaseous tail of the comet. One enterprising man sold comet pills to people for protection against the effects of the toxic gases.

1914
Charles Russell, after being exposed to the teachings of William Miller, founded his own organization that evolved into the Jehovah's Witnesses. In 1914, Russell predicted the return of Jesus Christ.

1918
In 1918, new math didn't help the Witnesses from striking out again.

1925
The Witnesses had no better luck in 1925. They already possessed the title of “Most Wrong Predictions.” They would expand upon it in the years to come.

1941
Once again, Jehovah's Witnesses beleived that Armageddon was due. Before the end of 1941, the end of all things was predicted.

1967
When the city of Jerusalem was reclaimed by the Jews in 1967, prophecy watchers declared that the "Time of the Gentiles" had come to an end.

1970
The True Light Church of Christ made its claim to fame by incorrectly forecasting the return of Jesus. A number of church members had quit their livelihoods ahead of the promised advent.

1973
A comet that turned out to be a visual disappointment nonetheless compelled one preacher to announce that it would be a sign of the Lord's return.

1975
The Jehovah's Witnesses were back at it in 1975. The failure of the forecast did not affect the growth of the movement. The Watchtower magazine, a major Witness periodical, has over 13 million subscribers.

1977
We all remember the killer bee scare of the late 1970's. One prophecy prognosticator linked the bees to Revelation 9:3-12. After 20 years of progression, the bees are still in Texas. I'm beginning to think of them as the killer snails.

1981
One author boldly declared that the rapture would occur before December 31, 1981, based on Christian prophecy, astronomy, and a dash of ecological fatalism. He pegged the date to Jesus' promised return to earth a generation after Israel's rebirth. He also made references to the "Jupiter Effect," a planetary alignment occurring every 179 years that supposedly could lead to earthquakes and nuclear plant meltdowns.

1982
It was all going to end in 1982, when the planets lined up and created magnetic forces that would bring Armageddon to the earth.

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1982
A group called the Tara Centers placed full-page advertisements in many major newspapers for the weekend of April 24-25, 1982, announcing: "The Christ is Now Here!" They predicted that He was to make himself known "within the next two months." After the date passed, they said that the delay was only because the "consciousness of the human race was not quite right..." Boy, all these years and we're still not ready.

1984
The Jehovah's Witnesses made sure, in 1984, that no one else would be able to top their record of most wrong doomsday predictions. The Witnesses' record currently holds at nine. The years are: 1874, 1878, 1881, 1910, 1914, 1918, 1925, 1975, and 1984. Lately, the JWs are claiming they're out of the prediction business, but it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks. They'll be back.

1987
The Harmonic Convergence was planned for August 16-17, 1987, and several New Age events were also to occur at that time. The second coming of the serpent god of peace and the Hopi dance awakening were two examples.

1988
The book, 88 Reasons Why the Rapture is in 1988, came out only a few months before the event was to take place. What little time the book had, it used effectively. By the time the predicted dates, September 11-13, rolled around, whole churches were caught up in the excitement the book generated. I personally had friends who were measuring themselves for wings. In the dorm where we lived, my friends were also openly confronting all of the unsaved. It became my job to defuse situations. In one case, an accosted sinner was contemplating dispensary action against my now-distant friends. Finally, the days of destiny dawned and then set. No Jesus. The environment was not the same as Miller's 1844 failure. To my surprise, the taunting by the unsaved was very brief. I took it that people have very little understanding of the Bible, so they had nothing to taunt my friends with. I made one other interesting observation. Although the time for the rapture had been predicted to fall within a three-day window, September 11-13, my friends gave up hope on the morning of the 12th. I pointed out that they still had two days left, but they had been spooked, nonetheless

1989
After the passing of the deadline in 88 Reasons, the author, Edgar Whisenant, came out with a new book called 89 Reasons Why the Rapture is in 1989. This book sold only a fraction of the number of copies his prior release had sold.

1991
A group in Australia predicted Jesus would return through the Sydney Harbor at 9 a.m., March 31, 1991.

1991
Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan proclaimed the Gulf War would be "the War of Armageddon ... the final War."

1991
Menachem Schneerson, a Russian-born rabbi, called for the Messiah to come by September 9, 1991, the start of the Jewish New Year.

1992
A Korean group called Mission for the Coming Days had the Korea Church an uproar in the fall of 1992. They foresaw October 28, 1992 as the date for the rapture. Numerology was the basis for the date. Several camera shots that left ghostly images on pictures were thought to be a supernatural confirmation of the date.

1993
If the year 2000 is the end of the 6,000-year cycle, then the rapture must take place in 1993, because you would need seven years of the tribulation. This was the thinking of a number of prophecy writers.

1994
In the book, 1994: The Year of Destiny , F. M. Riley foretold of God's plan to rapture His people. The name of his ministry is “The Last Call,” and he operates out of Missouri.

1994
Pastor John Hinkle of Christ Church in Los Angeles caused quite a stir when he announced he had received a vision from God that warned of apocalyptic event on June 9, 1994. Hinkle, quoting God, said, "On Thursday June the 9th, I will rip the evil out of this world." At the time, I knew Hinkle's vision didn't match up with Scripture. From a proper reading of Bible prophecy, the only thing that God could possibly rip from the earth would be the Christian Church, and I don't think God would refer to the Church as "evil." Some people tried to interpret Hinkle's unscriptural vision to mean that God would the rip evil out of our hearts when He raptured us. Well, the date came and went with no heart surgery or rapture.

1994
Harold Camping, in his book Are You Ready?, predicted the Lord would return in September 1994. The book was full of numerology that added up to 1994 as the date of Christ's return.

1994
After promising they would not make anymore end time predictions, the Jehovah's Witnesses fell off the wagon and proclaimed 1994 as the conclusion of an 80-year generation; the year 1914 was the starting point.

1996
This year had a special month, according to one author who foresaw September as the time for our Lord's return. The Church Age will last 2,000 years from the time of Christ's birth in 4 BC.

1996
California psychic Sheldon Nidle predicted the end would come with the convergence of 16 million space ships and a host of angels upon the earth on December 17, 1996. Nidle explained the passing of the date by claiming the angels placed us in a holographic projection to preserve us and give us a second chance.

1997
In regard to 1997, I received several e-mail messages that pointed to this as the year when Jesus would return for His church. Two of the more widely known time frames were Monte Judah's prediction that the tribulation would begin in February/March and another prediction based on numerology and the Psalms that targeted May 14 as the date of the rapture.

1997
When Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Arafat signed their peace pact on the White House lawn on September 13, 1993, some saw the events as the beginning of tribulation. With the signing of the peace agreement, Daniel's 1,260-day countdown was underway. By adding 1,260 days to September 1993, you arrive at February 24, 1997.

1997
Stan Johnson of the Prophecy Club saw a "90 percent" chance that the tribulation would start September 12, 1997. He based his conclusion on several end-time signs: that would be Jesus' 2,000th birthday and it would also be the Day of Atonement, although it wouldn’t be what is currently the Jewish Day of Atonement. Further supporting evidence came from Romanian pastor Dumitru Duduman. In several heavenly visions, Dumitru claimed to have seen the Book of Life. In one of his earlier visions, there were several pages yet to be completed. In his last vision, he noticed the Book of Life only had one page left. Doing some rough calculating, Johnson and friends figured the latest time frame for the completion of the book would have to be September 1997.

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1998
Numerology: Because 666 times three equals 1998, some people point to this year as being prophetically significant. Someone called me long distance just so he could pass on to me this earth-shattering news.

1998
A Taiwanese cult operating out of Garland, Texas predicted Christ would return on March 31 of 1998. The group's leader, Heng-ming Chen, announced God would return and then invite the cult members aboard a UFO.
The group abandoned their prediction when a precursor event failed to take place. The cult's leader had said that God would appear on every channel 18 of every TV in the world. Maybe God realized at the last minute, the Playboy Network was channel 18 on several cable systems, and He didn't want to have Christians watching a porn channel.

1998
On April 30, 1998, Israel was to turn 50 and many believed this birthday would mark the beginning of the tribulation. The reasoning behind this date has to do with God's age requirement for the priesthood, which is between 30-50.

1998
1998 Marilyn Agee, in her book, The End of the Age, had her sights set on May 31, 1998. This date was to conclude the 6,000-year cycle from the time of Adam. Agee looked for the rapture to take place on Pentecost, which is also known as “the Feast of Weeks.” Another indicator of this date was the fact that the Holy Spirit did not descend upon the apostles until 50 days after Christ's resurrection. Israel was born in 1948; add the 50 days as years and you come up with
After her May 31 rapture date failed, Agee, unable to face up to her error, continued her date setting by using various Scripture references to point to June 7, 14, 21 and about 10 other dates.

1999
Well, you can't call Marilyn Agee a quitter. After bombing out badly several time in 1998, Marilyn set a new date for the rapture: May 21 or 22 of this year.

1999
TV newscaster-turned-psychic Charles Criswell King had said in 1968 that the world as we know it would cease to exist on August 18, 1999.

1999
Philip Berg, a rabbi at the Kabbalah Learning Center in New York, proclaimed that the end might arrive on September 11, 1999, when "a ball of fire will descend . . . destroying almost all of mankind, all vegetation, all forms of life."

2000
Numerology: If you divide 2,000 by 3, you will get the devil's number: 666.66666666666667.

2000
The names of the people and organizations that called for the return of Christ at the turn of the century is too long to be listed here. I would say that if there were a day on which Christ could not return, it must have been January 1, 2000. To come at an unknown time means to come at an unknown time. I think January 2, 2000 would have been a more likely day for Him to call His Church home--right after the big let down.

2000
On May 5, 2000, all of the planets were supposed to have been in alignment. This was said to cause the earth to suffer earthquakes, volcanic eruption, and various other nasty stuff. A similar alignment occurred in 1982 and nothing happened. People failed to realize that the other nine planets only exert a very tiny gravitational pull on the earth. If you were to add up the gravitational force from the rest of the planets, the total would only amount to a fraction of the tug the moon has on the earth.

2000
According to Michael Rood, the end times have a prophetically complicated connection to Israel's spring barley harvest. The Day of the Lord began on May 5, 2000. Rood's fall feast calendar called for the Russian Gog-Magog invasion of Israel to take place at sundown on October 28, 2000.

2000-2001
Dr. Dale SumburËru looked for March 22, 1997 to be "the date when all the dramatic events leading through the tribulation to the return of Christ should begin" The actual date of Christ's return could be somewhere between July 2000 and March 2001. Dr. SumburËru is more general about the timing of Christ's second coming than most writers. He states, "The day the Lord returns is currently unknown because He said [Jesus] these days are cut short and it is not yet clear by how much and in what manner they are cut short. If the above assumptions are not correct, my margin of error would be in weeks, or perhaps months."

2002
Priests from Cuba's Afro-Caribbean Yoruba religion predicted a dramatic year of tragedy and crisis for the world in 2002, ranging from coups and war to disease and flooding.

2004
This date for Jesus' return is based upon psalmology, numerology, the biblical 360 days per year, Jewish holidays, and "biblical astronomy." To figure out this date, you'll need a calculator, a slide rule, and plenty of scratch paper.

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Hello TwoBombs,

It appears that you have slipped over the edge or at least way out in left field.

When did you start calling people insane who don't agree with you?

Why should you get angry when someone points out the very plain Bible Doctrine that nobody knows the day or the hour except Almighty God, and it's not Biblical or smart to try to set dates?

Brother, you really do need to spend more time with the Bible and less time with date setters and dreamers. Are you so angry and bent out of shape because the Tribulation Period didn't start on March 29, 2006 as you've been claiming for so long? I wasn't going to say anything about this until reading your last few posts, but here's a news flash: the Tribulation Period has NOT started yet. This should give you an idea about the truth and wisdom of the Holy Bible when it says that only GOD knows the day and the hour.

It also appears from several of your last posts that you are angry with America, thinking that America will cause Bible Prophecy to occur. GOD will fulfill Bible Prophecy at HIS appointed time, and no power in the universe will be able to slow or hasten HIS appointed time. We obviously disagree about the Rapture, Babylon, and other end of age events, but that's nothing new since we've always disagreed. What's new is you calling all of us insane because we disagree with you, and you talking like a prophet here and on your changed web site. March 29th has come and gone, so it isn't the time for you to act or talk like a prophet, call all of us insane, and express so much anger with us after your failed prophecy.

Brother, it's time for you to take a chill pill. I really don't care who is right or wrong about Bible Prophecy, but I sure am tired of folks calling each other names over it. I'm also tired of all the folks who think they are prophets going around and calling other Christians insane, stupid, or heretics if we don't believe them. Well, I don't believe them, and I don't care what they think. All of the self-proclaimed prophets can believe whatever they want to about Bible Prophecy, but they are not welcome to come here and call folks names who don't agree with them. Take this as a hint that you won't be doing anymore name calling here, and we don't accept you as a prophet of any kind.

This has gotten beyond ridiculous. None of us here on the forum or in this hemisphere will be starting the Tribulation Period or any other event in Bible Prophecy. As a matter of fact, no human on this earth will slow or hasten GOD'S Plan by a second. ALMIGHTY GOD will do that at HIS TIME that HE appointed before the foundation of this world. Cool off and think about what you're doing.

Moderator

Psalms 118:6-7 NASB  The LORD is for me; I will not fear; What can man do to me? The LORD is for me among those who help me; Therefore I will look with satisfaction on those who hate me.

1997-2006
twobombs - Your web site had links which prophesized that the earth was to be completely destroyed by a comet first in 1997 then again in 2000 then again in 2002 - Then it was the summer of 2003 - Now it's 1260 days from the solar eclipse of march 29th, which takes us to september 19, 2009! :D

twobombs, it should be more like several bombs! :D I see your strategy my friend. It's exactly the same as the J.W's
keep whipping out dates, then claim you have "new light" and the odds keep getting better and better that one day, you're bound to hit it right! ::)

My friend, all ribbing aside, get out of that date setting cult you are in, and return to the Holy Word of Jesus Christ.
You know full well the warnings that He gave about the future of false prophets. So why take the chance? Jesus said it twobombs - "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only."
Believe in Him, and disregard your false teachers before it is too late.

John

I've said it before, dating Prophecy is dangerous. It only leads to further disbelief by those who are listening thus doing more harm than good.  Not only that, some will get the impression that they have some knowledge to set a date that is clearly not mentioned in scripture.

I forgot to add where the information of these false dates came from, and as hard as I have tried to find my references to the location, I can not find it...
Sorry friends! I will keep searching my computor files. I really should come up with a better system! :-\

John

There is a mystery of divine freedom which does not contradict God's goodness or Sovereignty but remains elusive to man

Therefore man must resign to an attitude of trust and dependence on a good God Whose workings man cannot fathom.

We cannot ever try to figure God's timing, His thoughts are not our thoughts.
Therefore we must have faith and let God work things in His perfect timing.

That's alright brother. It is hard sometimes to keep up with all the information in this technological world. I found it on a site called "Rapture Ready" and they refer to it as the "Date Setter Diary". A simple internet search finds it easily.

I also found it at another site called "talkabout" and is labled as "They Keep Trying and Keep Failing
by "Raymond C. Glassford" "

AMEN sister!!

Gods time, is not our time.

Many thanks my friend! I believe the "Rapture Ready" one sounds familiar.

John

You're most welcome brother.

Thank you all for your answers, time & patience. Surely we all live on the same earth with different views and opinions. Wholeheartedly I can respond with an "Amen" to a lot of the answers that were/are given on this topic; there are certains aspects in our lifetime which I denounce and reject, others are embraced by me. I do this on "instinct" and trust the guidance of the Holy Spirit and the firm foundation of the Word that has been established in the  years of study, bibleschool and others that came along my path and taught me.

I believe it is mandatory to live in the Lord in these days and be purified by His knowledge, simultanious at peace with those things that are and others that will soon be upon us.

Having said that I miss my fellow brothers and sisters that moved away from this forum after this or that. People like Hitch and many, many others that had different opinions yet helped us to sharpen our blades. Let us not kid ourselves by saying that "we know all, because we are bearers of the Truth and Light and Salt of the world" whilst remembering that it is by Divine Grace and by Grace alone that He has chosen us to be among His little Flock, even until the End of the Age. Indeed, it has pleased the Master to do so. So let us please Him.

Regards,
2b

Hello TwoBombs,

I don't remember anyone here ever saying that they know everything, not even close. In fact, most of the folks we have who study Bible Prophecy expect disagreement as being normal. Some of the people who used to discuss Bible Prophecy all the time are reluctant to do it anymore because many these days get hot too quickly and start calling names over anything. This isn't a Salvation topic, so it shouldn't ever cause Brothers and Sisters in Christ to call each other names.

I, for one, know that I belong to JESUS regardless of what happens tomorrow, and I also know where I'll be for eternity. SO, I know that Salvation is thousands of times more important than the Rapture, Tribulation Period, or any other end of this age event. Alive or dead, I'll be with JESUS for every second into eternity and HIS Will be done as I know it will be. Nothing else will really make much difference for me.

I know that our arguments on the forum don't do anything for the lost except confuse them, so I rarely debate any more. I think that a lot of us are in the same boat. In terms of the moderators, most of us simply stop name calling and other things that are obviously against the teachings of the Holy Bible. Those who agreed or disagreed 4 or 5 years ago still agree or disagree about the same issues.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Romans 1:17 NASB  For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, "BUT THE RIGHTEOUS man SHALL LIVE BY FAITH."

 US attack on Iran unlikely
Ahvaz, Khuzestan Prov, May 2, IRNA

Iran-US-Minister
Interior Minister Mostafa Pour-Mohammadi said here Tuesday it was unlikely the United States would attack Iran.

"It is unlikely the US would attack Iran. Nevertheless, we should not disregard precautionary and preventive measures," Pour-Mohammadi told IRNA in the southwestern city of Ahvaz.

"Enemies have always created dangers. We have the duty to be vigilant and not disasters take place," he added.

He said the security condition in Khuzestan province had improved and expressed hope terrorist acts conducted in the province in the past year would not be repeated.

US attack on Iran unlikely (http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-234/0605023199112228.htm)

Osama's 'American Hiroshima' field commander studied at Hamilton's McMaster University

gotcha98 el Shukrijumah--who attended flight schools in Florida and Norman, Oklahoma, with Mohammad Atta and the other 9/11 hijackers--attended Hamilton, Ontario’s McMaster University.

That’s just one compelling revelation in the new book, The Dunces of Doomsday by Paul L. Williams.

"You can look for the next Mohammad Atta by tracing him through Hamilton when you get back to Toronto," Williams told Canada Free Press (CFP) in an exclusive interview in Washington, D.C. on Saturday.

Williams, who also wrote Osama’s Revenge and The Al Qaeda Connection, was in Washington to address a Terrorism Symposium sponsored by America’s Truth Foundation.

"Following the success of 9/11, gotcha98 el Shukrijumah received his commission to serve as the field commander for the next attack on U.S. soil–the so-called American Hiroshima," Willams wrote in The Dunces of Doomsday. "In preparation for this mission, he–along with fellow al Qaeda agents Anas al-Liby, Jaber A. Elbaneh, and Amer el-Maati–was sent to McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, a facility that housed a five-megawatt nuclear research reactor, the largest reactor of any educational facility in Canada.

"At McMaster University, where the al Qaeda agents may have registered under fictitious names, Shukrijumah and friends wasted no time in gaining access to the nuclear reactor and stealing more than 180 pounds of nuclear material for the creation of radiological bombs."

Williams, an investigative journalist who served as a consultant for the FBI, doesn’t pull any punches in his latest book, which describes "The Peanut Farmer and the Ayatollah", explaining, "How the worst president in American history permitted and stimulated the rise of radical Islam."

There’s a bounty on the head of Shukrijumah, who graduated from engineering physics at McMaster in 1998. The Rewards for Justice Program, United States Department of State, is offering a reward of up to $5 million for information leading directly to his capture.

He "Should be Considered Armed and Dangerous" notes an FBI alert signed by Director Robert S. Mueller 111.

The alert states further that "If you have information concerning this person, please contact your local FBI office or the nearest American Embassy or Consulate."

How Osama’s field commander found his way to the university that houses the largest reactor of any educational facility in Canada McMaster is a story that demands an answer.

Since his Hamilton days, Osama’s boy el Shukrijumah has been out there making a name for himself–named in a March 2003 material-witness arrest warrant by federal prosecutors in North Virginia, where U.S. Attorney Paul J. McNulty said he is sought in connection with potential terrorist threats against the United States.

Among his known aliases, the FBI lists el Shukrijumah’s al Qaeda nickname: Jaffar Al-Tayyar ("The Pilot"). As of September 2005, "The Pilot" is under suspicion of having helped himself to a missing crop duster in California.

Born in Saudi Arabia but thought to be a Yemen national, el Shukrijumah was raised in Miramar, Florida, where his father was a radical Islamic Iman.

Dr. Mamdouh Shoukri is Vice-President, Research and International Affairs at McMaster University, where he is also a Professor of Mechanical Engineering.

On October 17, 2001, Dr. Shoukri registered his disapproval that unnecessary alarm regarding terror fears had suspended tours of McMaster’s nuclear reactor.

"In the current state of heightened security awareness and anxiety, it is unfortunate that The Spectator would print something that may unnecessarily alarm its readers," Dr. Shukri told the Hamilton Spectator.

Since Williams has teamed up with international journalist and CFP columnist David Dastych, the pair revealed a link between Iran and bin Laden that dates back to June 21, 1996 when bin Laden attended a terror summit in Tehran.

Having found and exclusively interviewed Pakistani journalist Hamid Mir, Williams and Dastych told WorldNetDaily "al-Qaeda has already obtained nuclear suitcase weapons from the Russian black market, weapons that have been tested in Afghanistan in 2000, and may have already been forward-deployed inside the U.S.

Williams says that Osama has already smuggled seven to ten suitcase nuclear bombs into the U.S. through the Mexican border.

Williams and Dastych believe that sunlight is the best disinfectant.

"The face of el Shukrijumah should be thrown up on the television screen on an upcoming segment of America’s Most Wanted", Williams told the American Truth Foundation symposium.