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Well, it's official: Europe has been successfully infiltrated by the
Muslims. They're literally everywhere, even in the smallest back-woods
places, including my hometown of Wietze where the population is
approximately 10,000. Ten percent of Wietze are now Turks and Kurds - all
of
them Muslim.

From a humanistic standpoint, this doesn't necessarily represent a
problem.
After all, Turks and Kurds have just as much right as anybody else to seek
a
better life for themselves. They can live better in Germany on welfare
than
they can by actually working for a living in their own countries. And that
is exactly what they are doing.

The problem is, they refuse to integrate into German society. Muslim women
are dressed in the typical Islamic garb, covered from head to foot - and
they despise at anyone who isn't. Even old ladies sitting on stoops or
benches glare at non-Muslim passers-by. Not one of them returned our
smiles
as we walked the sidewalks of Wietze, Lachendorf, and big city Dortmund,
where my cousin Uschi and her husband gave us a tour of "Little Istanbul"
-
a part of town that has literally been taken over by the Turks and Kurds.
The only remaining Germans in that part of the city are old folks who have
lived there most, or all of their lives, and either weren't able to
relocate, or stubbornly refused to be forced out. This decision, according
to my cousin, has been a costly one, and the older inhabitants have paid
dearly as they have subjected themselves to constant harassment by the
Muslims. One older German lady, my cousin told me, tearfully related that
she refuses to go out at night anymore, because the young Turks and Kurds
make sport out of pushing little old German ladies off the sidewalks.

Because their women are off limits, the young Turkish men use and abuse
German women, and then call them whores. Ushi told me that she has read
plenty of newspaper reports concerning German women who have slapped a
Turk
or Kurd for groping them in public, only to then be hit or knifed by their
offenders. "They have no respect for women", she told me.

Taking advantage of the system

Germany has become so liberal that, not only does the government
cheerfully
hand out welfare to all foreigners, but they've now allowed Muslims to
hold
goverment offices. We were told that German officials seem to be afraid of
them and often back down in order to meet their demands. It seems Muslims
have made themselves a force to be feared. And even though most of them
are
on welfare, they are somehow managing to get a hold of money (probably
through drug sales, we were told) to be able to buy or build brand new
houses.

In Dortmund the Muslims have somehow bought a city block for 20 million
Euros and are planning to turn a church into a mosque. Naturally, if they
succeed, they will put loudspeakers on the mosque and broadcast their
daily
prayers all over the city. Since most Germans (and the rest of Europe) are
either atheists or "lukewarm believers", they don't even realize what's
happening! They're all blinded to what's happening right under their
noses.
I kept trying to tell everyone we met to be vigilant and to fight the
Muslim
takeover in whatever way they can because, if they don't, one morning they
will all wake up staring down the barrel of a gun and the sound of Muslim
voices yelling at them to convert or be killed. The end times are here and
the Muslims ain't kidding; they WILL and ARE trying to force the world to
convert via ANY means. I didn't realize just how urgent this situation was
until I saw, with my own eyes, what was happening in Germany!

Although Muslims insist that Islam is a religion of peace, it is exactly
the
opposite, as evidenced by a history of violent attacks against the Western
world, including the 9/11 attacks on the U.S. The Koran (Quran) incites
violence and insists that unbelievers be harmed or killed. Here are just a
few examples:

  a.. Murder them and treat them harshly (Q. 9:123), slay them (Q.9: 5),
fight with them (Q. 8: 65 ), even if they are Christians and Jews,
humiliate
them and impose on them a penalty tax(Q. 9: 29).


  b.. It orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other
religion except Islam is left (Q. 2: 193).


  c.. It says that the non-believers will go to hell and will drink
boiling
water (Q. 14: 17).


  d.. It asks the Muslims to slay or crucify or cut the hands and feet of
the unbelievers, that they be expelled from the land with disgrace and
that
they shall have a great punishment in world hereafter (Q.5: 34).


  e.. As for the disbelievers, it says that for them garments of fire
shall
be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby
whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be
punished with hooked iron rods (Q. 22: 9).
Islam mistreats women

Islam has always suppressed the rights of women. As a matter of fact,
Muslim
men have a history of mistreating or killing women - and going unpunished
for their crimes. One recent example is from Ankara, Turkey, where Mehmet
Halitogullari pulled on a wire wrapped around his 14-year-old daughter's
neck and strangled her - supposedly to restore the family's honor after
she
was kidnapped and raped. In another recent case which drew strong Turkish
media interest, a 22-year-old woman, Guldunya Toren, was shot dead by her
two brothers for having a child outside wedlock after being raped by a
cousin in southeastern Turkey.

Although the Turkish government is trying to save face by trying to
enforce
harsher laws against "honor killings", there is much evidence that this
practice is justified on Islamic grounds. Recently Jordan's Parliament
rejected a law stiffening penalties for honor killings because Islamic
hardliners, according to Al-Jazeera, "said the laws violated religious
traditions and would destroy families and values."

The bottom line for Islam is that it is not just a religion, but a way of
life and a government. According to Professor Moshe Sharon, Professor of
Islamic History at the Hebrew University, Jerusalem:

"When the Islamic empire was established in 634 AD, within seven years -
640 - the core of the empire was created. The rules that were taken from
the
Koran and from the tradition that was ascribed to the prophet Mohammed,
were
translated into a real legal system. Jews and Christians could live under
Islam provided they paid poll tax and accepted Islamic superiority. Of
course, they had to be humiliated. And Jews and Christians living under
Islam are humiliated to this very day."

Daniel Pipes in a recent New York Sun article stated:

      Some 5% of the E.U., or nearly 20 million persons, presently
identify
themselves as Muslims; should current trends continue, that number will
reach 10% by 2020. If non-Muslims flee the new Islamic order, as seems
likely, the continent could be majority-Muslim within decades.

      When that happens, grand cathedrals will appear as vestiges of a
prior
civilization - at least until a Saudi style regime transforms them into
mosques or a Taliban-like regime blows them up. The great national
cultures - Italian, French, English, and others - will likely wither,
replaced by a new transnational Muslim identity that merges North African,
Turkish, subcontinental, and other elements....

      ..."Europe becomes more and more a province of Islam, a colony of
Islam." So declares Oriana Fallaci in her new book, La Forza della
Ragione,
or, "The Force of Reason." And the famed Italian journalist is right:
Christianity's ancient stronghold of Europe is rapidly giving way to
Islam.
Two factors mainly contribute to this world-shaking development.

        a.. The hollowing out of Christianity. Europe is increasingly a
post-Christian society, one with a diminishing connection to its tradition
and its historic values. The numbers of believing, observant Christians
has
collapsed in the past two generations to the point that some observers
call
it the "new dark continent." Already, analysts estimate Britain's mosques
host more worshippers each week than does the Church of England.


        b.. An anemic birth rate. Indigenous Europeans are dying out.
Sustaining a population requires each woman on average to bear 2.1
children;
in the European Union, the overall rate is one-third short, at 1.5 a
woman,
and falling. One study finds that, should current population trends
continue
and immigration cease, today's population of 375 million could decline to
275 million by 2075.To keep its working population even, the E.U. needs
1.6
million immigrants a year; to sustain the present workers-to-retirees
ratio
requires an astonishing 13.5 million immigrants annually. Into the void
are
coming Islam and Muslims. As Christianity falters, Islam is robust,
assertive, and ambitious. As Europeans underreproduce at advanced ages,
Muslims do so in large numbers while young.

So, what's the solution?

In my opinion, there is no earthly solution; this matter is entirely in
God's hands and will only be resolved when Yeshua (Jesus) returns.

A couple of years ago, I was involved in an e-mail debate with a young
Muslim from the UK. At first, we tried to be civil toward each other, but
this soon deteriorated when he realized he couldn't convert me to Islam.
In
frustration he finally wrote: "I'm trying to show you that one day the
whole
world will be Muslim, whether they want to, or not. People who do not
convert will be killed....Carmen, neither you nor your pro-Jesus website
are
thwarting Satan; he's happy he's got you fooled and spending your energies
on myths while he works to ravage the world through the people that truly
count, such as Antichrist Bush, Saddam, and especially Antichrist Sharon."

My response to this was: Well, my friend, you are right to a certain
extent
because the Bible tells us that in the end times, many will be beheaded
for
their belief in Yeshua - And who are the ONLY people in the entire
universe
who still be-head and be-hand? It's the Muslims!

I believe that God is using the radical Muslims to bring about His
end-time
scenario as outlined in the Books of Daniel and Revelation. This scenario
has already started, as is evidenced by the beheading of American,
Nicholas
Berg, in Iraq. These sadistic Muslim swines callously cut off his head and
yelled, "Allah akhbar!" (God is great!) after doing their heinous deed. I
don't know whether or not Berg was a believer, but it doesn't matter to
the
Muslims one way or another, as they consider all Westerners - whether Jew,
Gentile, Christian, or atheist - to be heathens who need to be
exterminated.

Well, God certainly IS great - but not THEIR god....

So, as a warning, not just to Germany but to the entire world, I say:

Wake up, people! Wake up and realize the true agenda of radical Islam,
while
there is still a chance. It's Satan's religion and he wants you DEAD.

Carmen @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 The Refiner's Fire

NOTE: An e-mail friend of mine, Kenyan evangelist Stephen Ng'ang'a, said
the
above was happening in his country as well. He said, "In your opinion what
do you think can be done because spreading of the Muslim religion? I
witnessed in Rwanda what you saw in Germany. They have enticed the widows
in
to this devlish religion. CHURCHES are not allowed to have a public
address
system heard outside the synagogoes, yet Muslims are allowed. What can we
do?"

Coming to a city near you.

Praise God! We Have Him no matter what may happen.



 

Concorde, welcome to CU, I look forward to reading more of your posts.
as for the person that emailed you ...that person does not realize that as he said it won't be for long.... THE KING OF KINGS will remove ALL non Christians off His earth.

My oh my..... I see that muslims are a very religious race but I wonder what could have these muslims accomplished when they worship the one true living God Jesus...

A whole lot more love instead of hatred.

It's funny that concorde & spectre260 both have very similar e-mail addresses in their profiles...hmmm ::)
You know what's even more bizzarre?
They both share the same I.P. number! :o
Just some wee kid having some fun my friends.

John

Wow, that is what I call observing

They are brothers, physcal brothers sister. When I asked spectre about it, he told me. Since then concorde hasn't posted.

Tried to be anonymous..... I hope you guys don't think different about me..... I'm just practicing..... I guess I better buy an anonymizer program they suggested.......

 ;D  Hello Spectre,

Please don't waste your money on one of those programs. All they do is get you denied service on a lot of sites, especially forums. Besides, you have been a good member here, and we like you.

Love In Christ,
Tom

1 John 1:7 NASB  but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

why is it bizzarre??? what's bizzarre anyway?

Can I say one thing that might not be popular? Okay, well, I will say it anyway.

Jesus said for us to love one another as we love ourselves. I have met many muslims. Where I lived back home in Massachusetts, UMass was more muslim than it was Christian. I don't agree with their beliefs. I don't condone what the radical Muslims do in hatred. But not ALL muslims are bad people. Yes, they are misled in their faith. Their faith is not the true faith of our Bible. Yet, we are lumping all into one conclusion, and that shouldn't be done.

We should witness to these people more. I was once invited over to a home of a Pakistani family. We discussed religious beliefs. Never, once did we argue or have a heated debate. I simply discussed Christianity with them, in a civil manner. I wasn't saved then, and wish, now that I had been. I might have done a better job. But, never once did they try to convert me or push their faith on me. They fed us a nice meal and they were very nice to us in every way. We had helped them with some plumbing issues, and this was their way of thanking us. I know some so-called Christians that wouldnt take the time out of their busy lives to even say thank you, let alone show gratitude or love for one another.

Let us not forget other religions or false prophets, trying to overtake the world as well. Jehovah Witnesses and their door-to-door religion, Mormons and their own book of Jesus, Cults popping up everwhere, the Benny Hinn's of the world that are not appointed by God but by the world financial system. We, as Christians need to stand up, not to just one false religion but to all, and try to save as many as we can. Jesus is coming, and we must be ready. Even one person saved every day is one more that will share the kingdom of Heaven with us! Praise Jesus for this promise!

Okay, you can all throw pillows at me now if you want!

God Bless,
Kelly

AMEN Kelly, Oh before I forget Kelly....................

While I agree with you that we need to love them (after all that is what we are commanded to do by Jesus) and should witness to them also I must disagree to an extant. All muslims peaceful or radical want us under their law (sharia law). There are many muslims here also and more moving in everyday. The quran teaches that this law will be over all people on earth one day and it is the duty of every muslim to help bring that about. There are many such as the muslims in the ACLU that are attempting to do this through the use of our own laws. To irradicate our Christian history and to change even our Constitution into something that it never was. Many of these so called peaceful muslims end up resorting to violence when their peaceful ways do not obtain the results that they would have them do.

One needs but look at the roster of the ACLU's lawyers and the recent connection they have with the lawsuits that CAIR and other such organizations are filing through the ACLU to see that this is true.

Yes we as Christians do need to take a stand against all the false religions as you said. In order to do so we must have our eyes wide open as to what they are trying to accomplish and how they are trying to do what they are. Witnessing to them is just one of the many ways that we need to do to take this stand.

I just have one question:

Does Jesus want us to love the ACLU? Cuz, I am gonna really need to pray on that one!  ;D

God Bless,
Kelly

We are told to love our enemies. That does not however mean that we need to go along with what they are doing nor does it mean that we cannot try to stop them from what they are doing. It is a hard thing to do I agree. This is something that christian police officers and military personnel, etc  learn  ......  to love their enemies and still stop them from doing what is wrong.