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Title: Pain Post by: sincereheart on March 21, 2006, 09:23:36 AM The Value of Pain, by Rubel Shelly
And we are also happy with the troubles we have. Why are we happy with troubles? Because we know that these troubles make us more patient. And this patience is proof that we are strong. And this proof gives us hope. And this hope will never disappoint us -- it will never fail. Why? Because God has poured out his love to fill our hearts. God gave us his love through the Holy Spirit. That Holy Spirit was a gift to us from God. (Romans 5:3-5 ERV) Tony Dungy is the head coach of the NFL's Indianapolis Colts. Many were expecting his team to be competing in Super Bowl XL, but it wasn't to be. He did, however, speak at the Athletes in Action breakfast on Saturday before the game. After receiving a lengthy standing ovation and paying tribute to Curtis Martin for winning the Athletes in Action Bart Starr Award, Dungy told the hundreds of attendees that he wanted to talk about lessons he had learned from his three sons. Reporters say the room fell silent except for the coach's voice. He spoke first of his middle son, Eric, and his competitive nature that is so focused on athletics that "it's almost a problem." Then he turned to his youngest son, Jordan, whose rare congenital condition makes him insensitive to pain. "That sounds like it's good at the beginning, but I promise you it's not," said Coach Dungy. "We've learned some hurts are really necessary for kids. Pain is necessary for kids to find out the difference between what's good and what's harmful." He explained in terms of Jordan's love for his mother's cookies. "Cookies are good," the coach continued, "but -- in Jordan's mind -- if they're good out on the plate, they're even better in the oven. He will go right in the oven when my wife's not looking, reach in, take the rack out, take the pan out, burn his hands – then eat the cookies and burn his tongue and never feel it." With no fear borne of pain, Jordan must be watched constantly. And the lesson from that, Dungy said, is pretty simple. "You get the question all the time, ‘Why does the Lord allow pain in your life? Why do bad things happen to good people? If there is a God of love, why does he allow these hurtful things to happen?' We've learned that a lot of times because of that pain, that little temporary pain, you learn what's harmful. You learn to fear the right things. "Pain sometimes lets us know we have a condition that needs to be healed. Pain inside sometimes lets us know that spiritually we're not quite right, and we need to be healed. And that God will send that healing agent right to the spot. Sometimes pain is the only way that will turn us as kids back to the Father." Only then did Coach Dungy speak of his oldest son, James, who took his life three days before Christmas. Of his family's pain. Of lessons they learned. Coach Dungy reminds us all that the only way to overcome heartache and death, discouragement and anguish is to let them turn us back to the Father. When that happens, we have discovered the ultimate value our pain can have. (c) 2006 From Rubel Shelly's "FAX of Life" http://www.faithmatters.com/ Title: Re: Pain Post by: Bronzesnake on March 21, 2006, 04:33:17 PM Thank you for posting that.
There are many kinds of pain, and they all have their purpose. They all lead to conclusions which we may or may not like. This brings the inevitable question from many of us. Why does God allow pain? Why do bad things happen to good people? The question should be... Why did God allow His innocent son to suffer horribly through many kinds of pain, and to eventually die a bloody death at the hand of unclean sinners who were mere men? When we can answer that we will find the answers to the other questions. John Title: Re: Pain Post by: airIam2worship on March 21, 2006, 05:36:25 PM Thank you for posting that. There are many kinds of pain, and they all have their purpose. They all lead to conclusions which we may or may not like. This brings the inevitable question from many of us. Why does God allow pain? Why do bad things happen to good people? The question should be... Why did God allow His innocent son to suffer horribly through many kinds of pain, and to eventually die a bloody death at the hand of unclean sinners who were mere men? When we can answer that we will find the answers to the other questions. John Thank you Brother, a good word in due season. Title: Re: Pain Post by: Soldier4Christ on March 21, 2006, 08:58:06 PM YOUR CROSS
Whatever your cross, whatever your pain, There will always be sunshine after the rain. Perhaps you may stumble, perhaps even fall, But God's always there to help you through it all. Heb 13:5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. Title: Re: Pain Post by: airIam2worship on March 22, 2006, 07:53:37 AM YOUR CROSS Whatever your cross, whatever your pain, There will always be sunshine after the rain. Perhaps you may stumble, perhaps even fall, But God's always there to help you through it all. Heb 13:5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. Amen. Just think He carried the cross for our sake before we were even born, and He still is there to carry our cross foe us. What an AWESOME GOD. Mt 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. Mt 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. Title: Re: Pain Post by: airIam2worship on March 22, 2006, 08:00:47 AM The Value of Pain, by Rubel Shelly And we are also happy with the troubles we have. Why are we happy with troubles? Because we know that these troubles make us more patient. And this patience is proof that we are strong. And this proof gives us hope. And this hope will never disappoint us -- it will never fail. Why? Because God has poured out his love to fill our hearts. God gave us his love through the Holy Spirit. That Holy Spirit was a gift to us from God. (Romans 5:3-5 ERV) Tony Dungy is the head coach of the NFL's Indianapolis Colts. Many were expecting his team to be competing in Super Bowl XL, but it wasn't to be. He did, however, speak at the Athletes in Action breakfast on Saturday before the game. After receiving a lengthy standing ovation and paying tribute to Curtis Martin for winning the Athletes in Action Bart Starr Award, Dungy told the hundreds of attendees that he wanted to talk about lessons he had learned from his three sons. Reporters say the room fell silent except for the coach's voice. He spoke first of his middle son, Eric, and his competitive nature that is so focused on athletics that "it's almost a problem." Then he turned to his youngest son, Jordan, whose rare congenital condition makes him insensitive to pain. "That sounds like it's good at the beginning, but I promise you it's not," said Coach Dungy. "We've learned some hurts are really necessary for kids. Pain is necessary for kids to find out the difference between what's good and what's harmful." He explained in terms of Jordan's love for his mother's cookies. "Cookies are good," the coach continued, "but -- in Jordan's mind -- if they're good out on the plate, they're even better in the oven. He will go right in the oven when my wife's not looking, reach in, take the rack out, take the pan out, burn his hands – then eat the cookies and burn his tongue and never feel it." With no fear borne of pain, Jordan must be watched constantly. And the lesson from that, Dungy said, is pretty simple. "You get the question all the time, ‘Why does the Lord allow pain in your life? Why do bad things happen to good people? If there is a God of love, why does he allow these hurtful things to happen?' We've learned that a lot of times because of that pain, that little temporary pain, you learn what's harmful. You learn to fear the right things. "Pain sometimes lets us know we have a condition that needs to be healed. Pain inside sometimes lets us know that spiritually we're not quite right, and we need to be healed. And that God will send that healing agent right to the spot. Sometimes pain is the only way that will turn us as kids back to the Father." Only then did Coach Dungy speak of his oldest son, James, who took his life three days before Christmas. Of his family's pain. Of lessons they learned. Coach Dungy reminds us all that the only way to overcome heartache and death, discouragement and anguish is to let them turn us back to the Father. When that happens, we have discovered the ultimate value our pain can have. (c) 2006 From Rubel Shelly's "FAX of Life" http://www.faithmatters.com/ Amen sister. 1Pe 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: Title: Re: Pain Post by: Soldier4Christ on March 25, 2006, 02:14:48 PM God sweetens outward pain with inward peace.
—Thomas Watson Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Title: Re: Pain Post by: Shammu on March 25, 2006, 10:29:18 PM Psalm 69:29-30 But I am poor, sorrowful, and in pain; let Your salvation, O God, set me up on high. 30 I will praise the name of God with a song and will magnify Him with thanksgiving,
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