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Title: Christianity: child abuse? A virus?
Post by: Soldier4Christ on March 09, 2006, 01:35:03 PM
If someone had predicted thrity years ago that "gay" marriage would be legalized in some American states (and all across Canada), many in the church would have scoffed at the possibility.

If someone had predicted sixty years ago that prayer, Bible reading and creation would be thrown out of America's public schools, well, most in the church back then would have also thought it to be ridiculous.

But .... they have happened!

Now, what if I said the following?

If America continues on it's present course of abondoning the absolute Word of God - - and teaching generations of students that they are the result of random natural processes - - Christians who teach their children to believe that God created in six literal days will have those same children taken away ... and the parents will be arrested for "child abuse".

Would you scoff and say, "That would never happen here?" Would you think that I'm just over=reacting?

Friend, that day may be closer than you think! In a TV program broadcast recently throughout the United Kingdom (and no doubt soon to be shown on American television as well), the world's leading spokesperson on evolution, atheist Dr Richard Dawkins of Oxford University< made these remarkable and shocking statements:

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I'm very concerned about the religious indoctrination of children.I want to show how faith acts like a virus that attacks the young and infects generation after generation ....

It's time to question the abuse of childhood innocence with superstitious ideas of hellfire and damnation. And I want to show how the scriptual roots of the Judeo-Christian moral edice are cruel and brutish.

What in the 21st century are we doing venerating a book (the Bible) that contains such stuff?

The raving continues. After saying that religion is a form of child abuse, Dawkins' tirade (he became very angry at times on the program) against Christianity did not wane:

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The God of the Old Testament has got to be the most unpleasant character in all fiction - - jealous and proud of it, unjust, unforgiving, racist, an ethnic cleanser urging His people on to acts of genocide . . . . When it comes to children, I think of religion as a dangerous virus. It's a virus which is transmitted partly through teachers and clergy, but also down the generations from parent to child to grandchild. Children are especially vulnerable to infection by the virus of religion.

As you read such comments from atheistic evolutionists, you can see that it can often get quite emotional for them when they attack creation and intelligent design - - and get very upset when the arguments against evolution are presented (especially in public shool science classes).

While many secularists say that creation should not be allowed in public scool science classes but should be relegated to the religion philophy class, a school in California was threntened with a lawsuit because the topic of creation was taught in a new philosophy course. The school dropped the course.

Genesis can't even be discussed in a philosophy class!

The bottom line. Christianity is now marginalized in what was once the greatest Christian nation on earth. And the more control the secularists grab in this nation, the bolder they will become (following Dawkin's example) in applying their atheistic philosophy - - which simply cannot tolerate Christianity and its absolute morality.

Yes, it could happen one day. In fact I believe that the die is cast and wel will face that day in the not too distant future - - unless Christians start really believing the Bible and acting out their faith! If this generation fails to share the good news of the Gospel, beginning in Genesis, your children or grandchildren may be accused of child abuse because they teach the Bible to their children. (Let's not forget the rapid cultural and social transformations of China, Russia, etc. in the first half of the 20th century.)

This is a reminder of the spiritual war we're in (Ephesians 6:10-20). And what a reminder that we need to be soldiers equipped with the whole armour of God so we can do battle for the souls of people.



Title: Re: Christianity: child abuse? A virus?
Post by: ggamble on March 09, 2006, 01:59:09 PM
Amen, Amen and Amen

Yes, Brother,
that's why I believe He is on His way, sooner than people think, My eye is ever looking for that glorious day!

Only Always for Jesus
ggamble


Title: Re: Christianity: child abuse? A virus?
Post by: Soldier4Christ on March 09, 2006, 02:04:07 PM
Amen, Amen and Amen

Yes, Brother,
that's why I believe He is on His way, sooner than people think, My eye is ever looking for that glorious day!

Only Always for Jesus
ggamble

Amen! The sooner the better for us all.



Title: Re: Christianity: child abuse? A virus?
Post by: Shammu on March 09, 2006, 05:20:10 PM
Amen, Amen and Amen

Yes, Brother,
that's why I believe He is on His way, sooner than people think, My eye is ever looking for that glorious day!

Only Always for Jesus
ggamble
DITTO!!

And AMEN, AMEN with another AMEN!! I myself believe that we are getting ready, for the end of Grace. Once that happens, you know what happens next. I myself don't want to be here for that.


Title: Re: Christianity: child abuse? A virus?
Post by: Tundra on March 11, 2006, 09:45:58 AM
Hmm...
Interesting post there. Me personally (a new guy to Jesus) i don't believe in the literal word of the Bible. I think some bits are stories because we are too stupid to understand. If G started talking about quarks, protons, gamma rays, evolution etc we wouldn't fully have understood and thats why it's not in the Bible, because earlier people weren't ready for it. I was brought up as a christian hater. In my houshold Christianity (and other religions) were mocked as superstitious nonsense that was just one way of controlling people. I'm now 18. I have found the way. I believe without having been indoctrinated by my family. I personally will not be indoctrinating my children (if i have any which is another, long story) but when they are old enough to understand, i will teach them my beliefs and encourage them, but not force them. Didn't Christ himself say (no idea where though) that he that believes in me without having seen me will be even greater than the belief of those that believed having seen him. (again no idea where or if thats an accuraet paraphrase i'm new) Therefore if my children find christ without me i would be even happier.
comments?


Title: Re: Christianity: child abuse? A virus?
Post by: Soldier4Christ on March 11, 2006, 10:57:35 AM
The Bible was written literally so that we could understand it. No it doesn't talk about protons or neutrons but it does give it to us quite simply and basically so that even a child could understand. "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

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In my houshold Christianity (and other religions) were mocked as superstitious nonsense that was just one way of controlling people.

And this is the same mindset used by people that want the Bible to be "just stories". These people don't want others to come to God so they use this strategy. As I said the Bible was written so simply that a child could understand and come to Him.

As for not teaching your children in the way of the Lord. We are told in the Bible that we are to teach and raise our children in the ways of the Lord. If we do not do so and that child does not come to Him then we will be held accountable, that childs blood will be on our hands.

I love my children and love them so much that I do not want to risk them dying the horrible death that awaits those that do not believe on Jesus. I want to insure that I spend eternity with them.



Title: Re: Christianity: child abuse? A virus?
Post by: nChrist on March 11, 2006, 11:07:10 PM
Hmm...
Interesting post there. Me personally (a new guy to Jesus) i don't believe in the literal word of the Bible. I think some bits are stories because we are too stupid to understand. If G started talking about quarks, protons, gamma rays, evolution etc we wouldn't fully have understood and thats why it's not in the Bible, because earlier people weren't ready for it. I was brought up as a christian hater. In my houshold Christianity (and other religions) were mocked as superstitious nonsense that was just one way of controlling people. I'm now 18. I have found the way. I believe without having been indoctrinated by my family. I personally will not be indoctrinating my children (if i have any which is another, long story) but when they are old enough to understand, i will teach them my beliefs and encourage them, but not force them. Didn't Christ himself say (no idea where though) that he that believes in me without having seen me will be even greater than the belief of those that believed having seen him. (again no idea where or if thats an accuraet paraphrase i'm new) Therefore if my children find christ without me i would be even happier.
comments?

Hello Tundra,

The Holy Bible is NOT fiction. In fact, the Holy Bible is the only TRUE history of the universe and mankind. The Holy Bible also contains nothing but the TRUTH about ALMIGHTY GOD AND CREATION.

I taught my children and brought them up in the ways of the LORD because:

1 - I wanted my children to be taught the greatest truths of this life;

2 - I wanted my children to know the love of JESUS and accept HIM as Lord and Saviour over their lives;

3 - As a Christian, it was my duty and honor to teach my children the things of the LORD. I did this duty with joy, and I don't regret a single minute of it.

JESUS CHRIST was and is the HEAD over my home. My children are raised and on their own, and JESUS CHRIST is the HEAD over their homes. This makes me very happy, as having JESUS CHRIST as Lord and Saviour is the most important decision in this short life.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Ephesians 3:14-19 NASB  For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name, that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; and that you, being rooted and grounded in love, may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled up to all the fullness of God.


Title: Re: Christianity: child abuse? A virus?
Post by: BLAD on March 13, 2006, 02:20:58 AM
Hmm...
Interesting post there. Me personally (a new guy to Jesus) i don't believe in the literal word of the Bible. I think some bits are stories because we are too stupid to understand.

If you do not believe the literal word of the Bible then maybe you are not yet a Christian. Coz' Christians believe that God is manifested in the flesh [Jesus] (literally). And that Jesus died in the cross (literally) and resurrected from the dead (literally). 

If G started talking about quarks, protons, gamma rays, evolution etc we wouldn't fully have understood and thats why it's not in the Bible, because earlier people weren't ready for it.

With regards to scientific knowledge, don't you know that Christians believe that the earth is round eventhough the scientific community (if they are really scientific?) believe the earth is flat.  Before men discovered there are spring in the bottom of the sea, God already revealed it to Job (Job 38:16 Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea?).  Maybe you have to read your Bible well.