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Pastor Roger and others here have put up some excellent posts on today's world events, and those are Biblical signs of where we are at prophecy-wise. But I feel some of the younger generation have a more difficult time understanding a lot of that because of the socialist ideas that have crept into our education system today. I served my country during the Vietnam War, so I'm a bit older, and remember growing up during the Cold War era when the battle lines against world Communism were clearly drawn. While in the USAF I even recall classroom instruction teaching about the principles and beliefs of the Communist system and how to recognize it. I've found too many young people today that lack understanding on that system, and how it is still operating today, and how God's Word reveals that Russia will be a major threat in the latter days before Christ's return. (See the latter day alignment of nations given in Ezekiel 38. The Hebrew for "chief" there, about the chief prince of Meshech, is the word 'Rosh', which scholars have revealed is from the word 'Rus', means the area of Russia.)

We are definitely not hearing the word Communism used in today's media like it was when I grew up. I've noticed a lot of young people today believe the false notion that we defeated Communism under the Reagan administration, when the Berlin Wall was allowed to come down, and the Soviets declared Perestroika. Sadly, too many of my generation believe that also. True, the Soviets have never defeated us on the battlefield, and they know they can never beat us on the battlefield. That's why they have resorted to a system to takeover the West from corrupting it 'within'. And it's not difficult to fathom that some our so-called leaders are helping them. That may be the really hard part to understand, why some of our own American leaders would turn against God, our nation, our military that's done such a good job, and sell us out.

First, here's some reference works for documentation on these things, just to show that I'm not popping all this out of nowhere:

1) "Proofs Of A Conspiracy", by John Robison (1798?). Robison was an English Mason, and wrote about events leading up to the French Revolution, and its connection with the Jacobin clubs of France in taking over the French lodges. He quoted from the secret papers found on the body of an agent of Weishaupt's Bavarian Illuminati, which outlined many ideas of a plan for world takeover. The Bavarian Illuminati was banned in Europe after those papers were discovered, but Weishaupt said it would go ten times greater into secrecy if its aims were ever found out. The ideals and principles in those papers reveal the plan that world Socialism and revolution to overthrow all governments and particularly Christianity, existed long before Marx or Lenin started Communism.

2) "The Naked Communist", by Cleon Skousen. Skousen was a 16 year FBI agent back in the 50's and 60's. He later was a professor at Brigham Young University (I am not a Mormon by the way; I'm a Protestant Christian). He wrote this in 1958. In it he outlined 45 points from the Soviet long-range plan to takeover the West. Some of those points can be clearly seen working today. This is by far the easiest book to read on the Communist ideology. Skousen gave a good warning for Christians with this work.

3) "New Lies For Old" by Anatoliy Golitsyn. He is an ex-KGB Colonel who defected to the United States in the 1960's with his family. He went to the U.S. State Department with a warning about the Soviet long-range strategy against the West. They didn't listen, so he got permission to write on it to the American public. His works have been ostracized by some so-called expert advisors on Soviet affairs from the Ivy League schools. Nevertheless, Golitysn predicted the Soviets would allow the Berlin Wall to come down if their 2nd phase disinformation strategy worked against the West. It happened a year later after he wrote this book, along with many other things he warns about. He reveals the Soviets changed their strategy after the Stalinist regime towards a more peaceful subversive strategy against the West. The long-range plan was devised in 1958, and has 3 phases. The last phase included the possibility in bringing the Berlin Wall down to seek a Socialist merger between East and West. He also reveals how religious summits have been held in Russia with Western religious leaders in getting them on the 'peace' plan, for the main purpose of pacifying the West towards disarmament. (Tell me that hasn't worked today!). Another matter he covers is how the Soviets planned as part of their long-range strategy to use Islamic terrorism against the West!

4) "Tragedy And Hope", by Carroll Quigley. Quigley was professor of history at Georgetown University (Bill Clinton studied under him there, and endorsed him). Quigley wrote this work in the early 1960's. He had to sue his publisher in 1966 to find out why they stopped printing his book. He found out the publishers had destroyed the printing plates, and said his book must have said something the Insiders didn't want known. 1300 pages and a hard read, but it's packed. Quigley claims he has been allied with what some have called the eastern seaboard 'Establishment' for most of his life, and that for two years he was allowed to see their secret records. His main argument was that the secret history has been a significant factor, enough to be known, and he didn't see why they wanted to keep it hidden. It really shows how vain Quigley is, because in it he reveals the connection of the British Round Table groups with the American Council On Foreign Relation (CFR), and the connection with the Rhodes Scholarship Trust founded in memory of Cecil B. Rhodes, the British merchant who owned gold and diamond assets in Africa.

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In Christ Jesus,
Dave

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Quigley revealed the hard part that's difficult to believe about some of our American leaders, and why those leaders do things not in our best interest while appearing to serve our nation the rest of the time. The Rhodes Scholarship program, he reveals, is really a school for future western leaders on the program of world Socialism towards a one world government. It's not just a program for smart people like most of us think (Bill Clinton was a Rhodes scholar by the way, and he went to Oxford for that schooling). Quigley also stated, in a matter of factly way, that the Establishment also sees no problem in working with the Communists, and often has done so. He does not talk about British Cosmopolitanism or Fabian Socialism, which one must learn from other sources for this tie in. The Fabian Socialists of Britain are for a one world Socialist state, just like the Communists. The difference is, the Fabian Socialists don't want to use force, but instead by bringing it through peacetime legislation, little by little (i.e. changing the laws). Whereas, the Communist system believes in using force.

How does all this affect us Christians? Well, it already has affected us, and many can't see it but seem to be groping in the dark for answers. God told us about this in His Word. It is written and will be understood if we listen to Him and ponder it.

One of the things Quigley reveals in his history about western leaders on the Socialist one world boat, is how those can include some very high upward leaders who profess Christ Jesus as their Savior. He shows that those leaders from America and Great Britain actually believe in a type of Kingdom of Heaven in the here and now sense, and that's it's their responsibility to help bring it to the whole world today. In reality though, those are really helping to fulfill Bible prophecy about the final one world 'beast' system that will be over all nations and peoples on earth, whether they know it or not. It appears they actually believe they can establish God's Kingdom in the here and now. This is why it is very difficult to argue with them, because they see themselves as the benefactors of mankind, and think they can bring peace on earth eventually. And many working for their system will have the same kind of world peace ideas, seeing themselves as unselfish helpers of mankind, when all along they are only being used to bring in the future rule of the Antichrist.

Why is God going to allow that one world system to happen with the Antichrist ruling over the whole world for the latter days? Ezekiel 38 and 39, the Book of Daniel, and our Lord Jesus' Book of Revelation give many of the answers to that. One of the main reasons God gives in Ezekiel 38 and 39 is about the battle of Hamongog, which is to be upon Russia and its allies when they come upon Israel to surround it. God is going to fight that battle, not us. In Daniel and Revelation He said the power of His people will be overcome by that system, but only for a short time. The reason is, if He allows us to defeat His enemies, then they won't get the full effect of knowing He is The GOD, and there is none other. This is why we are being allowed to be weakened today by Christ's enemies. The weapons we are to fight with is the whole Armour of God (Ephesians 6). It's written in Luke 21 that some believers on The Savior are to be delivered up in the latter days, to give a Testimony for Christ. And the adversaries who hear that from The Holy Spirit will not be able to gainsay nor resist what is said at that time.

The Bible blueprint for this future one world kingdom is the type of kingdom Daniel was under in old Babylon. God promised Israel they would go into captivity for 70 years, and not to raise up literal arms against it, and that they would dwell in Babylon and build houses and plant vineyards, and bear children, i.e. live in peace (see Jeremiah). After that 70 years captivity, many of Judah didn't want to return to Jerusalem because they had gotten so well established in Babylon. God is able to take care of His people. In the latter years of Daniel's captivity, that's when the false prophets had the king of Babylon setup the false golden image for everyone to bow down to at the sound of the psalter. In Rev.13 another false 'image' is to be setup for the latter days for all to bow down to. That's from the old Babylon captivity blueprint, which is an 'ensample' to us (1 Cor.10:11). Have Faith, for Emmanuel Christ is with us.

In Christ Jesus,
Dave

Hi Dave,

Yes, I agree. I started my Navy career during Viet Nam so that puts us about the same age. I would venture to say that not only does the younger generation not get taught what communism truly is but it is going to the point that they are being taught that it is a good thing. We have many in government offices right now that are promoting communism. This is why I said in the early 70's that the only way communism was going to take over the U.S. was from the inside because they certainly couldn't beat us otherwise.

I am glad that you mentioned islam in this post. There is a thread on end times in the Bible study area that is covering what islam may have to do with this subject. I find your points on this interesting to say the least.


(btw, DreamWeaver is the one posting most of the news on the end times right here in the Prophecy - Current events area.)

They are simply being led to do Gods will, whether they know it or not.

Seven years, of Tribulation. Or if you wish, 3 &1/2 years of Tribulation, 3 &1/2 years of Great Tribulation.

Brother, you have posted news on, the coming of the end times as well. So please take some of the credit.

Resting in the hands, of the Lord.
Bob

1 Thessalonians 2:13 And we also [especially] thank God continually for this, that when you received the message of God [which you heard] from us, you welcomed it not as the word of [mere] men, but as it truly is, the Word of God, which is effectually at work in you who believe [ exercising its superhuman power in those who adhere to and trust in and rely on it].

I wasn't giving you all the credit, brother, just what's due.   ;)

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see he came out from behind the wall.

dp,

Sorry we hijacked your thread with a brief bout of fun. This is a serious subject and one that many should become more familiar with. If anyone is interested I have a hugh source on communism/socialism in the America's. If someone is homeschooling their children there are a number of good texts out that cover this subject also. It is laughingly called McCarthyism. But if people would really sit back and take a serious look at what Joseph McCarthy, a senator from Wisconsin in the early 50's had to say about this they would see that this is coming true today.

Roger,

I almost went Navy, but the recruiter was out on lunch break.

This is a very serious subject for today, I agree. And many fellow-believers are totally unprepared in it because of the political correctness issues going on, both in the public and in many of our mainstream organizational Churches. It appears that no matter what organization or group one forms up, Christ's enemies will always seek to creep into it to take it over for their own use. The fact that Judas was chosen as an Apostle by our Lord, and Jesus said he was a devil may be a Message to be aware of that creeping in. If He allowed that, then we shouldn't be naive in thinking He will simply cleanse our house for us without doing our part.

I've been mocked by some of our own brethren for speaking out on this issue, and I can't help thinking their Biblical understanding is so lacking that they've become scared. It's kind of obvious today we can't really trust all the news stories that are released either. One of the things Quigley revealed in his book Tragedy and Hope was how the Round Table group leaders in America sought to corner the newspaper media long ago by buying up 25 of the most influential ones. He names those in his book, The New York Times is one of them, which shouldn't be surprising for one who has kept on watch. The stategy behind that was if they got control of the majors, then all the other little ones would follow what the majors put out. That brings to mind books like George Orwell's "1984" of how key names and places were changed in news articles and re-released again, the 'Newspeak' thing. Much of the major news sources are used for influencing popular opinion, which Quigley also remarked on that strategy and how it has been used to sway the public. (He really did say a lot in his book that must have scared the 'insiders').

With all the twists, curves, and turns in today's news, it's impossible to sort all that without an understanding first in God's Word with His help. God's Word is the Great Neutralizer against all that today. The LORD is opening up understanding in His Word today like never before. Prior to the late 1970's and early 1980's, the majority never heard watchwords like "New World Order" and the idea of "one world government". The ten horned beast system idea of Revelation 13:1 didn't come forth until we started hearing and seeing the outward working towards a one world government.

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If we keep in mind that the Soviet leadership still in power in Russia today (Putin is KGB), still has not left their long-range plan for one world Socialism on their terms, and how some of our leaders in the West are also working towards that goal, and relate all that to the ten horned beast system our Lord Jesus warned us about in Revelation 13 and 17, then we should be able to sift through their propaganda news. But the fact that the globalists started working out in the open in the mid 80's, and have even held public debates on the issue of a one world government over all nations, it means they're pretty sure it's beyond stopping now. That's also a sign of how close we are to Christ's second coming.

The idea of radical Islam taking over the world is not a real threat in their eyes. They're simply using that as a lever against the West to weaken us politically towards world socialism. At the same time, it will serve as one of their tools to control all religious intolerance in the future. It's to help to bring in their joining of relgions into a one world relgion ("MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT..." of Rev.17). That has a lot to do with the growing status quo today in the West of not speaking out against Islam while taking care of the extremists among them. Hal Lindsay found that out when he got booted for speaking out against Islam. This beast system is going to require all to become religious 'moderates', which is what the inter-faith working is for (remember the speeches and prayers from various religions together in one place right after the 9-11 event?).

Another revealing part of Quigley's book, is how Hitler was allowed to come to power and create havoc. Some of the insiders in Britain were trying to use Hitler's regime as a buffer state against Soviet Russia. So they supported his early rise to power. One of the results of WWII and Fascism towards the idea of one world socialism was the destruction of the idea of 'nationalism'. Memories of WWII and Hitler have been used countless times to remind peoples what happens when they want to keep a strong independent nation attitude (which they call 'nationalism' or 'isolationism'). It so happens that our U.S. Constitution requires us to have a strong nationalistic attitude, because it's one of the ideas in the Constitution which prevents our enemies from taking over, foreign or domestic. National pride is part of our American history. And it goes totally against the principles of globalism or internationalism, i.e. "one world government". That's why many of our leaders have thrown much of our U.S. Constitution away, and why the enemy says it is a "living document", to be changed as needed. It's also why they must daily attack America's early history which is very nationalistic, especially as it is linked to a Christian foundation. So just as the ideas of 'nationalism' from Hitler's rise to power was used to turn many towards globalist one world thinking, the same kind of strategy is being used now on the religion side of the coin with radical Islam. Those insiders don't want to destroy the world, but they will allow however much blood to be shed as needed to get their one world socialist viewpoint across.

In Christ Jesus,
Dave

Aren't recruiters always out to lunch?   ;)


There is a faction in Russia right now that is growing larger everyday. This groupd is called a Khalifate. This is an islamic group and a portion of the group that according to the imams and koran will be taking over the world with a one world government. As we can see the current Russian government is not the only ones with this idea. The moscow khalifate has grown quite large and is in a position to be able to take over Russia in the near future. As in most places this group is doing it in any manner that they can, peaceful or otherwise. At the moment, the current Russian government is working with these people, actually co-operating with them. The khalifates, ten of them when they finish getting organized, three of them at present, are to eventually be under one ruler that is located in the Palestinian portion of Israel.

Just a few things to think about in conjunction with what you are talking about.

 

Yes, I understand what you said about the Kalifate. But I don't believe it's the leaders of Islam that are really 'pulling the strings', though they have been allied with Russia for quite a while, even back to Biblical times. I strongly believe the chief prince of Meshech in Ezekiel 38 refers to leadership in Russia, and is from an old connection to Esau, thus  meaning Esau (also called Edom or Idumea) represents Russia in the latter days. Esau married into the families of Ishmael and took Canaanite wives, and also after God had judged the old nation of Edom south of Jerusalem it became absorbed by Judah, many of Idumea becoming Jews by religious pratice only. (The Herods were of Idumean origin per the Jewish historian Josephus).

If we look at Israel's enemies today, and the supporters allied with Israel's enemies, like Russia, then the Ezekiel 38 Scripture points out a link to the northern lands like Russia and its satellites in Asia Minor being allied with Persia (Iran, Syria, etc.), Libya, and Ethiopia in trying to destroy Israel once and for all.

Today, both Russia and Red China operate their own State sanctioned Christian Church system. If you want to be a Christian in those lands under Communist rule, then you must be a member of their state Christian Church. They are and have been making concessions to the West's call to ease up on Christianity in their lands. That shows their intent to use religions to later destroy them and thus all concept of religion (which has always been a Marxist goal). Also, most are not seeing the secret society link in that, since we don't hear about that side much in public. Nevertheless, the secret societies are the driving force and link behind the scenes in all nations. And that side, per Weishaupt's secret papers that were discovered in Bavaria (see John Robison's work "Proofs Of A Conspiracy"), has always had the goal of destroying all of today's religions and putting the worship of Lucifer in place. Thus Islam is a smaller movement and is being used; it's not the driving force behind the scenes.

That eventually gets down to the topic of God's Birthright to Israel. The enemy believes the Birthright always is to go to the firstborn. Cain, Ishmael, and Esau, were all firstborns, but did not inherit The Promises, which that Birthright included God's Blessing of great national wealth and resources. That's why they want Israel destroyed. That also ultimately leads to the matter of Satan coveting the throne of David on earth, which is reserved for our Lord Jesus Christ.