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« on: August 03, 2008, 11:04:25 AM »

In recent news we have seen how many people are pandering to islam by being "politically correct" refusing to use certain words. By doing so they are in fact lessening if not eradicating completely what the true implications of this war actually is. I found the following commentaries on this to be very close to the truth.

by Maggie’s Notebook

After 9/11 we declared a War on Terror and it sparked a uniting of Americans that was too long coming. We’ve been able to define “Terror” now for several years and we know the terror to be Islam.WorldNetDaily quotes “a top commander for al-Qaida: “Islam does not distinguish between the American people and the American government, since both are in a state of war with Islam,” Mustafa Abu Al-Yazid said in a recent interview.

He is right. This is a War on Islam in response to Islam’s War on America, Islam’s War on Freedom and Liberty, Islam’s War on Infidels, Islam’s War on Democracy - and just to be clear, Islam brought it to America years ago.The difference between Islam’s thinking and a thinking American is that Americans will be suspicious of, and fight back against, those Muslims supporting the downfall of America.

We won’t pin it on our next door neighbor unless he is found to be actively anti-American. We won’t pin it on the Muslim children in our community, but we will hold their parents responsible for dispelling the Islamic agenda of hate toward us, we won’t pin it on our co-worker unless she demonstrates a disdain for us - sees us as an infidel, but we will always be suspicious of the Mosques in our community - because we have no other choice.I won’t use the impotent and futile term “War on Terror” again. From now on it is the War on Islam - a hateful ideology, a hateful oppressive form of government, a seething desire to eliminate all things non-Islamic.

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“War monger much?” This is the very first comment Maggie Thornton received on this terrific article. And this is a perfect example of what we’re up against: uninformed, self-righteous denial.

Good for you Maggie Thornton! This is precisely what we need. But few have yet to find the courage — and yes, it does take courage — to properly identify and denounce our enemy. It IS Islam itself. Those of us who have read the Qur’an and who have studied this accept this unpopular but undeniable fact.

You will of course receive hate mail. Apparently, you already have. You will be called a racist and a war-monger. But the fools who label you with these ludicrous terms have no idea of the monster they are defending. They are the deluded and the ignorant. And they must be stood up to. As you are so courageously doing right now.

We have been fighting several wars at once, both external and internal. We have been fighting internally, not just against those unyielding antiwar liberals, but against some of our most trusted authorities. Even at times against our own president. No American president has made a more foolish or harmful statement than when, immediately after the horrors of September 11th, 2001, and many times since that awful day, President Bush declared Islam to be “a religion of Peace, hijacked by a few fanatics”. With this absurd and disingenuous statement, and many others like it, our own president has succeeded in further muddying the waters and adding to our already deep confusion. Thus he has advanced and sanctioned this prime misconception.

To the average American, who has no real knowledge of Islam or of the historical realities of Muhammad, this deeply flawed parallel conjures images of an honorable and blameless religion being usurped by some small fanatical cult, similar, we can assume — with dangerous inaccuracy — to our own experience with Christianity and the KKK. Just a few nutcakes, using a venerable religion to advance their own evil and perverted agenda. And ‘perverted’ is the key word here. As Maggie Thornton so clearly demonstrates, our ruthless enemies do not speak for an Islam perverted, but rather for an Islam reinvigorated, an Islam reaffirmed.

To continue playing these liberal moral equivalency games, to continue avoiding naming or confronting our enemies for fear of offending them doesn’t make them go away; it just makes us more vulnerable. How many times must we say this? Islam makes no distinction between its political goals and its “religious” foundations. We do. This major difference between democracies and Islam is crucial to understand. Islam is an aggressive POLITICAL movement with clear cut political aims, and must be treated with no more deference and respect than any other political movement. It is as dangerous — or more so — than either fascism or communism, and must be resisted with the same conviction and tenacity. To our detriment, it has so far successfully managed to immunize itself from criticism and debate by having usurped that special place in our Constitutional society which we have reserved for legitimate religions.

Fools such as those who will attack you for speaking the truth are not only misguided, they are guilty of aiding and abetting the enemy. To them I can only say this: Put your precious borrowed and disastrously inappropriate liberal opinions aside for a moment and do some homework. Read the Qur’an and the supporting texts. Read what our enemy is saying. Read in their own words what it is that they want. Don’t settle for second-hand, biased interpretations of their message. Get it directly from their own lips.

But most of you won’t do this, will you? It requires too much effort and hard work. It’s so much easier to wallow in your complacent ignorance. It’s so much easier to call us names. It’s so much easier to rely on others to form your shallow opinions, isn’t it? It’s so much easier to attack writers like Maggie who have done the hard work and have arrived at the hard conclusions and have the courage to declare them.

If after all this time you still do not recognize our true enemies, if despite all of the evidence you continue to obstruct our efforts to defend ourselves against this existential threat, then you are helping our enemies to defeat us. And that makes you not only a fool, but a traitor.

It’s not a matter of winning a debate; it’s a matter of our nation’s survival. The enemy is relying on your complacency. Don’t give them this victory. Put aside your precious egos and learn.

Please — listen and learn before it’s too late, too late for us all.

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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2008, 11:29:02 AM »

We as Christians can carry this even further. Evil is evil and good is good.

I have heard many that say that the koran is nothing more than a twisted version of the Bible. That islam took much of their book from Christianity and then turned it into what it is for their own personal benefit. Muhammad, by his own words, received much of what he taught from a jinn (evil spirit) that he met while contemplating in a cave. This jinn was later called the Angel Gabriel by his wife, Khadijah and others of his followers.

The version of the end times came not from God or His angel but rather from an evil spirit.

We are indeed in a war and it is not just a war of flesh and blood but a war between good and evil, a war "against the rulers of the darkness of this world". islam is of the "rulers of the darkness of this world". Allah is a god of hate, torment and eternal death, not love, comfort and eternal life.

There is good news for all:

Rom 1:16  For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the
power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew
first, and also to the Greek.
Rom 1:17  For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith
to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Salvation, salvation from death under the law by God's perfect grace.

Rom 3:10  As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Rom 3:11  There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh
after God.
Rom 3:12  They are all gone out of the way, they are together become
unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Rom 3:23  For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Rom 5:12  Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and
death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have
sinned:

Rom 6:23  For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is
eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Rom 1:18  For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all
ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in
unrighteousness;

Rom 3:20  Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be
justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Rom 3:27  Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of
works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Rom 5:9  Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be
saved from wrath through him.

Rom 2:4  Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance
and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee
to repentance?

Rom 3:22  Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus
Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no
difference:

Rom 3:28  Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith
without the deeds of the law.

Rom 10:9  That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,
and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the
dead, thou shalt be saved.

Rom 4:21  And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was
able also to perform.

Rom 4:24  But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe
on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

Rom 5:1  Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God
through our Lord Jesus Christ:

Rom 10:10  For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and
with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Rom 10:13  For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Won't you turn to the one and only God that truly loves you and wants you with Him. He wants to comfort you. He wants to give you eternal life free from sin and torment.

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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2008, 11:33:48 AM »

AMEN!  And Bravo Pastor Roger!
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2008, 01:49:10 PM »

The U.S. has never submitted to an enemy in it's entire history ... until now.

A memorial is being put up in Pennsylvania at the site of the 9/11 jet crash in the form of the islamic sun dial.

On the weekend of October 16, 2007 the Empire State Building was lit up with green lights to honor the Muslim holiday of Eid.

Islamic indoctrination continues to infiltrate our schools while Christians and any semblance of morals are banned from them.

Sharai law infiltrates our government courts of law substantiating legal discourses.

Government buildings holds religious meetings with known terrorists while banning Christian meetings and prayer.

American businesses set up special prayer rooms and foot baths.

Public swimming pools set a special time for women only swimming in response to islamic requests.

Any hint at a religious form of Christmas (and now Easter also) is targeted as bad and gets banned all the while islamic holidays get recognized by government schools and American businesses.

Known islamist terrorists are hired as an "adviser" by some of our politicians and another by the Pentagon.

Yes, we are successfully fighting the War On Islam.  Roll Eyes

Whatever happened to "Don't Tread On Me?"

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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2008, 01:14:35 PM »

Serpents in the Nest: CAIR and the German American Bund

What exactly was the German American Bund?

The German American Bund, an organization of ethnic Germans living in the United States, was marked by a pro-Nazi stance. Aside from its admiration for Adolf Hitler and the achievements of Nazi Germany, the German American Bund program included antisemitism, strong anti-Communist sentiments, and the demand that the United States remain neutral in the approaching European conflict. Public opinion surveys of 1939 show that Fritz Kuhn, the leader of the German American Bund, was seen by the U.S. public as the leading antisemite in the country.

Actual membership figures for the German American Bund are not known with certainty, but reliable estimates place membership at 25,000 dues-paying members, including some 8,000 uniformed Sturmabteilungen (SA), more commonly known as Storm Troopers.

German American Bund carried out active propaganda for its causes, published magazines and brochures, organized demonstrations, and maintained a number of youth camps run like Hitler Youth camps.

German American Bund activities often led to clashes–even street battles–with other groups, most notably with Jewish veterans of World War I. A February 1939 rally was held on George Washington’s birthday to proclaim the rights of white gentiles, the “true patriots.” This Madison Square Garden rally drew a crowd of 20,000 who consistently booed President Franklin D. Roosevelt and chanted the Nazi salutation “Heil Hitler.”

The German American Bund closely cooperated with the “Christian Front” organized by the antisemitic priest Father Charles Coughlin. The activities of the German American Bund led both Jewish and non-Jewish congressional representatives to demand that it be investigated by the House Un-American Activities Committee chaired by Martin Dies. The Committee hearings, held in 1939, showed clear evidence of German American Bund ties to the Nazi government.

Shortly thereafter, Kuhn was convicted of embezzling funds from the organization and was sentenced to prison. In the following years, a number of other German American Bund leaders were interned as dangerous aliens, and others were jailed for various offenses. By 1941 the membership of the organization had waned. After the United States entered World War II in December 1941, the U.S. government outlawed the German American Bund.


And what exactly is CAIR?

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is a civil liberties and advocacy group for Muslims in North America that was created in June 1994; its professed goals are to enhance understanding of Islam, promote justice and empower American Muslims.” In its work, the group has been a party to lawsuits, testified before the United States Congress, and met with President George W. Bush.

Critics say that the organization and its leadership have ties to Islamic terrorist organizations and ideologies. CAIR responds by calling the accusations “urban legends”, and says that its detractors represent “the extremes in our society“.

· CAIR’s lineage goes back to a key Hamas leader (Musa Abu Marzook), and that CAIR has long been connected with, and “exploited” the 9/11 attacks to raise money for the Holy Land Foundation, a Hamas front group.

· CAIR is heavily supported, financially and otherwise, by suspect Saudi and UAE-based individuals and groups.

· CAIR states that the U.S. judicial system has been “kidnapped by Israeli interests,” and claims that anti-terror law enforcement action against the Holy Land Foundation was “an anti-Muslim witch hunt” promoted by “the pro-Israel lobby in America.”

A note from Radarsite: Overtly supporting and showing allegiance to a foreign government, actively proselytizing and recruiting new members, vehemently antiwar, virulently antisemitic, actively carrying out propaganda for its causes, publishing magazines and brochures, organizing demonstrations, and ultimately seeking world hegemony. These are just a few of the parallels between the German American Bund and CAIR. There are, of course, many more.

Unfortunately, one of the most glaring differences between these two seditious organizations is that almost immediately after America went to war in 1941 the U.S. Government outlawed the Bund, whereupon it quickly dissipated and eventually disappeared completely from the American scene. Furthermore, those vociferously pro-German, anti-war Americans, or groups of Americans, such as The America First Committee, quietly and unobtrusively exited the stage after hostilities began.

Incredibly, however, seven years after 9/11 CAIR is still with us, still filing complaints and threatening law suits, still warmly welcomed by our gullible MSM, loudly condemning the latest alleged anti-Muslim atrocities, still advising our governmental agencies and our major corporations on Muslim /American relations, still fighting their phony war against that ludicrous straw man of ‘anti-Muslim backlash’.

Remarkably, ingeniously, despite having been labeled by prosecutors as “unindicted co-conspirators” in connection with the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, despite the startling revelations made by respected investigative journalists and authors, such as Steve Emerson, Robert Spencer et al, and despite the further indictments of eleven more CAIR officials, bringing the new total to fourteen, this gang of Islamic thugs still remain free to do their devil’s work, seemingly immune to our occasional outbursts of impotent outrage.

Consider this sentence:

“German American Bund activities often led to clashes–even street battles–with other groups, most notably with Jewish veterans of World War I…”

And this recent headline:

SPARKS FLY BETWEEN JEWS AND MUSLIMS IN TORONTO

JDL Stages Demonstration at Arab Federation Building

BY: FERN SIDMAN

Defiant chants of “Condemn Muslim Terrorism Now”
and “Jewish Blood Is Not Cheap” could be heard in streets of downtown Toronto,
on Thursday afternoon, July 31st, as 30 members of Toronto’s Jewish Defense
League staged an angry demonstration in front of the offices of the Canadian
Arab Federation.

Perhaps there is no single quote which more succinctly expresses the continuing success that CAIR has undoubtedly enjoyed in pulling the wool over our collective eyes than this credulous entry in Wikepedia:

“The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is a civil liberties and advocacy group for Muslims in North America”.

It should be obvious by now that CAIR is no less of a danger to us today than the German American Bund was to us in 1941. It should be equally obvious that CAIR must be completely and totally expunged from our vulnerable American society. But in order for us to achieve this absolutely crucial objective we must harden our hearts against compromise and appeasement. We must somehow find the strength to acknowledge these irrefutable truths and find the courage to act on them. And — perhaps the most difficult challenge of all — we must confront those amongst us who still believe in the fundamental goodness of serpents.

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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2008, 11:37:45 PM »

Democrats kill ban on terrorists in schools
'Citizens should be outraged lawmakers are playing political games with our safety'

Majority Democrats in the California Assembly have rejected two amendments that would have allowed schools to fire any employee discovered to be part of an extremist terror network and require users of school facilities to affirm they are not terrorists.

A report from Karen England at the Capital Resource Institute said the amendments were submitted by assemblymen Martin Garrick and Chuck DeVore to a plan that also would allow members of the Communist Party to teach in public schools.

"I am appalled that Democrat lawmakers will not agree to these commonsense amendments," said England, executive director of CRFI. "My son is currently serving in Iraq to defend our state and nation from terrorists, yet Democrats will not do their part on the homefront to also defend us from such extremists."

England argued lawmakers are charged with the duty of defending their citizens from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

"Yet California Democrats placed their radical political agenda ahead of citizens' safety by refusing to prevent terrorists from teaching in our schools. Citizens should be outraged that these lawmakers are playing political games with our safety," she said.

The amendments from Garrick and DeVore "would have required any person or organization seeking use of public school property to sign a 'statement of information' declaring they do not advocate the overthrow of our government and are not part of an extremist terror network. Also, any school employee discovered to be part of an extremist terror network could be fired."

The amendments came as part of discussion on SB 1322, a bill that "will allow communists to teach in public schools and use government property for their meetings," Capital Resource said.

The traditional values advocacy organization said it has opposed the measure "as we recognize the inherent danger in allowing communists – those who seek the violent overthrow of our democratic republic – access to the impressionable minds of young students."

England said the lawmakers, after defeating the two amendments, launched their discussion of SB 1322 itself.

Assembly floor manager Gene Mullin argued communism is a "failed ideology," and the U.S. government should not be allowed to discriminate against communists.

Assemblyman Todd Spitzer pointed out that Article VI, Section 9 of the California Constitution prohibits the government from employing anyone advocating the overthrow of our government, England said. "Yet SB 1322 seeks to supersede the state constitution – without voter approval – and allow the government to employ individuals who want to destroy their employer."

Meredith Turney, legislative liaison for CRFI, said, "It really is shocking that at a time when America is still subject to attacks from radical terrorists and communist governments still terrorize their citizens, California Democrats won't stand up for us. We have brave soldiers putting their lives on the line every day to defend us from such tyranny, but Democrats will not cast a simple vote to do the same here in California. Democrats are quick to side with the latest political cause championing the rights of the oppressed. With their votes today, Democrats have missed their opportunity to make a statement denouncing oppressive communist governments responsible for the misery and suffering of so many worldwide."

WND reported earlier when the bill was introduced.

SB 1322 comes from state Sen. Alan Lowenthal, a Democrat elected from the state's 27th District, including the towns of Artesia, Avalon, Bellflower, Cerritos, Downey, Lakewood, Long Beach, Lynwood, Paramount, Signal Hill and South Gate.

The state's Civic Center Act already requires a school district to grant the use of school property, when an alternative isn't available, to nonprofit groups, clubs or associations set up for youth and school activities.

"But the law also states that the property may not be used by anyone intent on overthrowing the government," CRI said. Now, the group said, "SB 1322 would delete the requirement that an individual or organization wanting to use the school property is not a communist action organization or Communist front organization."

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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2008, 11:39:15 PM »

Losing the war one bill at a time and through all of the children.

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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2008, 01:43:19 AM »

Losing the war one bill at a time and through all of the children.



Isn't that just like Satan.
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Former Democratic presidential candidate issues "fatwa" against al-Arian prosecutor

Former Democratic presidential candidate Mike Gravel was caught on tape last week telling a crowd in Washington, D.C., that they should harass a federal prosecutor who helped bring criminal contempt charges against a Palestinian activist.

In the tape, Gravel can be heard telling people to pressure Gordon Kromberg, an assistant U.S. attorney in the eastern district of Virginia, to drop the charges against Sami Al-Arian.

“Find out where he lives, find out where his kids go to school, find out where his office is, picket him all the time,” Gravel said, in an audio tape obtained by the Investigative Project on Terrorism and provided to FOX News.

“Call him a racist in signs if you see him. Call him an injustice. Call him whatever you want to call him, but in his face all the time.”

Al-Arian is a former Florida professor who in 2006 pleaded guilty to providing goods and services to the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. Prosecutors had tried him on more serious charges, but that ended in a hung jury, so Al-Arian took a plea.

He later was charged with contempt for refusing to testify before a grand jury in Virginia.

Gravel told FOX News that he doesn’t want people to break the law and that he personally wouldn’t do the things he’s recommended — but that it could be an effective way to change the behavior of U.S. officials.

“The question is whether he crossed the line in saying ‘find out where his kids go to school,’” said counter-terrorism expert Steve Emerson. “That to my mind and to government officials including those in the FBI crosses the line into a direct veiled threat.”

He said the evidence at the Al-Arian trial “overwhelming showed and incontrovertibly demonstrated that he was head of the Islamic Jihad network in the United States.”

Kromberg’s boss, U.S. Attorney Chuck Rosenberg, wouldn’t comment on Gravel’s statement, but he lauded Kromberg’s record in a statement.

“Gordon Kromberg is a dedicated, talented and scrupulously fair prosecutor. Further, when we decide to prosecute an individual, that decision is based strictly on the facts and the law, and in the pursuit of justice, period,” he said.

Al-Arian is still sitting in a Virginia jail. He’s also been ordered deported, but the United States still is searching for a country that will take him.
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2008, 02:08:07 AM »

“The question is whether he crossed the line in saying ‘find out where his kids go to school,’” said counter-terrorism expert Steve Emerson. “That to my mind and to government officials including those in the FBI crosses the line into a direct veiled threat.”


I fail to see that there is a question here.  There was nothing "veiled" about it!!  If someone said that about my kids or grandkids I'd climb up his backside and pull his tongue back on through!  Who is this piece of wasted space and why is he defending a terrorist?
I'm telling you they have all gone mad up there.  They need to lay off snorting cocaine and smokin crack at all their late night parties.  That stuff'll make you kill your mama, let alone give a nation away that doesn't belong to you!

My gosh!  That comment has made me mad.  Instead of going outside to spit all the time I'm going to get a spitoon and sit it right here next to me!
What happened to enforcing the law in this country??  I can't believe what is allowed around here these days!
Mexican army crosses the boarder and holds an american at gunpoint, government officials (presidential candidates) taking illegal monies and lying about it, free run for every nationality and illegal but raping of homegrown americans every which way but loose is allowed.  No, not allowed, ENCOURAGED!!

I say bring back the firing squads. Round up a posse'.  Get a rope!  We need a coup for the PEOPLE!
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2008, 02:14:31 AM »

I'd climb up his backside and pull his tongue back on through! 

And THATS letting him off easy because I'm a good Christian LADY!
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2008, 10:48:05 AM »

And THATS letting him off easy because I'm a good Christian LADY!

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Being that he is such a well known individual on subjects such as these I think that he was taking it easy in his wording so that it didn't appear that he was trying to be judge, jury and executioner. After all it is alright for the "peace activists" to say such things but if we say them we get sued and sent to jail.

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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2008, 11:08:23 AM »

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Steven Emerson is an internationally recognized expert on terrorism and national security and a best-selling author.  Mr. Emerson serves as the Executive Director of The Investigative Project on Terrorism (IPT), an organization he founded in 1995 following the PBS broadcast of his documentary film Jihad in America.  Since 9-11, Emerson has testified before and briefed Congress dozens of times on terrorist financing and operational networks of Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, and the rest of the worldwide Islamic militant spectrum.

Being that he is such a well known individual on subjects such as these I think that he was taking it easy in his wording so that it didn't appear that he was trying to be judge, jury and executioner. After all it is alright for the "peace activists" to say such things but if we say them we get sued and sent to jail.



I was talking about M. Gravel
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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2008, 11:20:28 AM »

Oh, oops. Sorry for misunderstanding. Gravel is a former Democratic Senator and Presidential contender for 2008. I think that one word that is underlined says it all.

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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2008, 11:53:17 AM »

Oh, oops. Sorry for misunderstanding. Gravel is a former Democratic Senator and Presidential contender for 2008. I think that one word that is underlined says it all.



It certainly does!
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