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Theology / Debate / Re:WHAT ABOUT PASTORS WHO LET THIER CHILDREN...
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on: November 17, 2005, 03:55:00 AM
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blackeyedpeas, i am having such a hard time finding a good spirit filled church, its amazing. not to mention, this is the only church i have ever known, and i have learned some really good things here. but some things have turned and the lord removed me from this congregation, but i really just feel like i'm in a wilderness experience. have you ever been to a place like this?
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Fellowship / You name it!! / Re:when is enough enough?
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on: November 17, 2005, 03:44:38 AM
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it was mentioned, that the pastored should be terminated! how do you terminate a pastor who is the founder of the church and under no earthly authority? i think the pastor is most proberly a good man, however, i heard him say on several occassions that he'd believe whatever his sons told him. his son admitted that he was a master minipulator, but he'd never admit that to his father....p.s. they made this son the minister of music at this church.
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Theology / Debate / Re:TITHE AND OFFERING???
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on: November 17, 2005, 02:23:59 AM
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I AM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT SOME OF WHAT I'VE BEEN READING FROM YOU ALL....I THINK THAT ITS WONDERFUL THAT YOU FEEL THAT WAY. I AM SOOOOOO HAPPY TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE ARE PEOPLE ON A QUEST FOR THE TRUE THINGS OF GOD. I WAS TRUELY BEGINING TO FEEL LIKE PEOPLE OF GOD WERE A RARE THING...THANKS FOR THE RESPONSE. IF I EVER HAD TO PASTOR A CHURCH, I WOULD TAKE TITHE AND OFFERING BUT FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD AS NEEDED.
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Theology / Debate / Re:WHAT ABOUT PASTORS WHO LET THIER CHILDREN...
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on: November 17, 2005, 02:16:22 AM
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A PASTORS SON JUST HAD A BABY WITH A SISTER IN THE CHURCH, AND A FEW DAYS AFTER MARRIED A DIFFERENT SISTER IN THE CHURCH. NOT TO MENTION THE SCORES OF YOUNG LADIES HE SLEEP WITH PRIOR TO THESE EXPOSING INCIDENTS. ITS NO BIG DEAL, I KNOWRIGHT FROM WRONG, I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO HEAR OTHER VIEWS, BECAUSE THE PASTOR TRIES TO TELL ME THAT HIS SON IS JUST FRIENDLY.
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Theology / Apologetics / Re:HOW CAN WE SAY JESUS IS ONE WITH GOD AND STILL CONFESS A TRINITY?
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on: November 17, 2005, 02:00:45 AM
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DID YOU READ WHERE I AGREED THAT JESUS-THE FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY GHOST ARE ONE??? THATS NOT WHAT I'M ASKING. IF THEY ARE ONE, HOW DID WE BEGIN TO DESCRIBE JESUS AS THREE (TRINITY). THATS WHAT I'M ASKING. I BELIEVE MANY OF US DO NOT STUDY FOR OURSELVES, AND WE JUST SAY WHAT SOUNDS GOOD...NOW PLEASE TO THE REST OF YOU WHO ARE "TEACHING" WHERE IS TRINITY IN THE BIBLE? I'M ASKING BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO I HAVE HEARD USE THE WORD TRINITY, ASSOCIATED IT WITH THREE SEPERATE INDIVIDUALS, SO MY CONCERN IS TO KNOW THAT TRUE PEOPLE OF GOD DO NOT AGREE WITH THAT.
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Theology / Debate / Re:hate
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on: November 11, 2005, 11:08:13 PM
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hey chris,
we are told to love our enemies, not THE enemy!
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Theology / Debate / Re:hate
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on: November 11, 2005, 05:18:01 AM
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i was going to reply with that proverb 21st cent....for that part, well done.
we as christians must be very careful, because if we search hard enough we can find scripture to back up whatever view we have. thats why we must beg the lord jesus for wisdom. the bible is accurate in all its points, and it never contradicts itself...but if you don't have wisdom, you'll think that you should be doing one or the other of a thing (love/hate, deal with sinner/stay seperate from sinners, be bold/be humble, etc.) when we really should be doing all things at some point or another....we must have wisdom show us when, where , and how to use what.
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Theology / Debate / TITHE AND OFFERING???
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on: November 11, 2005, 04:31:34 AM
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WHAT IS THE TITHE AND OFFERING FOR? I HAVE THIS BELIEF THAT THE CHURCH SHOULD TAKE TITHE AND OFFERING TO TAKE CARE OF CHURCH BUISNESS. I THINK THE CHURCH LEADERS SHOULD USE THIS MONEY FOR PAYMENTS ON THE CHURCH, GAS AND ELECTRIC, MAINTAINENCE, ETC....WHERE DID WWE GET ALL THIS NON-SENSE ABOUT PASTORS PARTNERS, DEACON BOARD, SPEAKERS OFFERING, ETC. IS THIS PURE?
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Fellowship / Witnessing / LET THE SPIRIT LEAD
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on: November 11, 2005, 04:23:28 AM
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I'M FINDING THAT THE BEST WITNESSING TECHNIQUE IS BEING LEAD BY THE HOLY SPIRIT. THE ONLY THING THAT PEOPLE NEED THE SAME IS JESUS, BUT THE METHOD TO GET THEM TO HIM MAY BE VERY DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE PERSON. BE BOLD ENOUGH AND BRAVE ENOUGH TO GIVE PEOPLE WHAT THEY NEED, AND NOT JUST WHAT YOU THINK THEY MAY WANT. I DON'T WORRY ABOUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO RECEIVE ME, I JUST SPEAK BY THE LEADING OF THE SPIRIT. I HAVE TOLD SOME STRANGERS SOME THINGS THAT MOST WOULD NOT CONSIDER NICE...AND HAVE SEEN THEM GIVE THERE LIFE TO THE LORD. BUT THAN I HAVE TOLD SOME STRANGERS SOME VERY NICE THINGS WITH THE SAME RESULT.....KNOW JESUS FOR YOUR SELF AND LET THE HOLY SPIRIT DO THE LEADING, OTHERWISE YOU MAY BE IN A VERY DANGEROUS AREA..... THE DEVIL DOES NOT TAKE IT EASY ON SOUL WINNIERS.
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Welcome / About You! / bless you the more
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on: November 11, 2005, 04:08:53 AM
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I'VE BEEN WALKING FOR THE LORD FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS, ALTHOUGH I GAVE MY LIFE TO CHRIST AT A AFTER SCHOOL BIBLE STUDY WHEN I WAS IN 4TH GRADE. I GUEST YOU CAN SAY I AM A NEW CREATURE....HOWEVER I AM ON FIRE FOR THE LORD JESUS, AND HE HAS CERTAINLY BLESSED ME WITH FAVOR AND POWER....HE HAS USED ME TO WIN COUNTLESS SOULS TO THE LORD, AND I AM WATCHING WHAT THE LORD HAS DONE WITH ME, CHANGE THE PEOPLE AROUND ME. LET ME JUST ADD THAT I AM SO GLAD THAT THERE IS A CHRISTIAN SITE THAT IS ACTUALLY A CHRISTIAN SITE....VERY RARE. I'VE VISIT MANY PLACES THAT CLAIMED TO BE CHRISTIAN, AND IT VERY QUICKLY STRAYED AWAY FROM THE THINGS OF THE LORD. SO PLEASE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK...HOPEFULY THIS CAN BE THA START OF A REWARDING EXPERIENCE FOR ALL OF US.
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Fellowship / You name it!! / when is enough enough?
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on: November 11, 2005, 03:57:51 AM
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when do you think a pastor should deal with his childs lack of respect for the lord? i know a pastor whose son is so disrespectful to the house of the lord, that he has sex in the trustees office...everybody knows, but everybody is afraid to say anything. i get chastised because i refused to fellowship with them....now somebody please answer, am i wrong?
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Theology / Debate / WHAT ABOUT PASTORS WHO LET THIER CHILDREN...
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on: November 11, 2005, 01:05:19 AM
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WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT PASTORS WHO ALLOW THEIR CHILDREN TO TAKE LEADERSHIP OVER YOU, EVEN WHEN THEY MAKE NO EFFORT TO LIVE HOLY? AM I WRONG FOR NOT LETTING THESE PEOPLE LAY HANDS ON ME?
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Theology / Apologetics / HOW CAN WE SAY JESUS IS ONE WITH GOD AND STILL CONFESS A TRINITY?
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on: November 08, 2005, 04:19:15 AM
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I'VE BEEN READING SOME OF WHAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN SAYING, AND I AM CURIOUS TO KNOW...HOW CAN THE SAME PEOPLE WHO CONFESS THAT JESUS, GOD, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT ARE ONE (AND YOU ARE RIGHT), STILL CONFESS THE TRINITY? ISN'T THE TRINITY THE BELIEF IN THE SEPERATE INDIVIDUAL THREE, HENCE THE WORD "TRI"NITY? ISN'T THATS CALLED A CONTRADICTORY CONFESSION?
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