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Title: Prayer Question: "He Walks with Us" or is it "We Walk with Him"? Post by: JudgeNot on July 23, 2005, 02:02:41 AM As I was riding train this morning, commuting to work (praying about the London train bombings, among other things…) I confused me. (Reba, Cris and others understand this is a common occurrence for someone who regularly “kills himself” with his foolish jokes…)
I asked the Lord to walk with me in one breath, and in the next breath I asked for strength to walk with the Lord. Bear with me, here: Much of my early rearing was on a west Texas ranch, and the very first wages I ever earned were as a ‘cowboy’. A cowboy knows two kinds of “herding”: ‘Day herding’ and ‘roundup’. Day herding takes place when new cattle are introduced to the ranch. They are always restless and have a tendency to roam fence lines rather than relaxing and becoming acquainted with their new surroundings. “Day herding” is the act of sitting on your horse and keeping the cattle from moving so they will become calm and used to their surroundings. Roundup is the opposite of day herding. It is the act of rousting the cattle and moving them from one place to another for their own good (giving them medicine, moving them to better grass and water, etc.) The Lord is our Shepherd (cowboy). Sometimes he ‘day herds’ (walks with us) and sometimes he does a ‘roundup’ (we must walk with Him). How do we know when to pray for which? On the surface they sound almost the same – but in practice, they are almost opposite. How do we know when to recognize Jesus’ intent to let us rest in Him as opposed to when the Lord intends for us to move under His direction? I would expect to find some of these answers in Proverbs, Ecclesiastes or Psalms; but a short search revealed nothing that REALLY jumped out at me. Title: Re:Prayer Question: "He Walks with Us" or is it "We Walk with Him"? Post by: JudgeNot on July 23, 2005, 02:18:22 AM Now, as I read my last post, I confuse myself more:
I said: Quote Roundup is the opposite of day herding. It is the act of rousting the cattle and moving them from one place to another for their own good (giving them medicine, moving them to better grass and water, etc.) I just realized that is not totally true: Sometimes 'roundup' means gathering cattle not "for their own good", but for slaughter... ??? Title: Re:Prayer Question: "He Walks with Us" or is it "We Walk with Him"? Post by: ollie on July 23, 2005, 08:44:40 AM As I was riding train this morning, commuting to work (praying about the London train bombings, among other things…) I confused me. (Reba, Cris and others understand this is a common occurrence for someone who regularly “kills himself” with his foolish jokes…) The Lord is our Shepherd (cowboy). Sometimes he ‘day herds’ (walks with us) and sometimes he does a ‘roundup’ (we must walk with Him).I asked the Lord to walk with me in one breath, and in the next breath I asked for strength to walk with the Lord. Bear with me, here: Much of my early rearing was on a west Texas ranch, and the very first wages I ever earned were as a ‘cowboy’. A cowboy knows two kinds of “herding”: ‘Day herding’ and ‘roundup’. Day herding takes place when new cattle are introduced to the ranch. They are always restless and have a tendency to roam fence lines rather than relaxing and becoming acquainted with their new surroundings. “Day herding” is the act of sitting on your horse and keeping the cattle from moving so they will become calm and used to their surroundings. Roundup is the opposite of day herding. It is the act of rousting the cattle and moving them from one place to another for their own good (giving them medicine, moving them to better grass and water, etc.) The Lord is our Shepherd (cowboy). Sometimes he ‘day herds’ (walks with us) and sometimes he does a ‘roundup’ (we must walk with Him). How do we know when to pray for which? On the surface they sound almost the same – but in practice, they are almost opposite. How do we know when to recognize Jesus’ intent to let us rest in Him as opposed to when the Lord intends for us to move under His direction? I would expect to find some of these answers in Proverbs, Ecclesiastes or Psalms; but a short search revealed nothing that REALLY jumped out at me. God daily leads our spirit through His Spirit in our daily walk. We are able to throw off temptation and our soul's restlessness as strangers in this world hoping to go home to be with the Lord. He walks with us. We are rounded up in that call of hope and faith to go home when we submit to His will and die/slaughter ourselves to sin to rise up in newness of life to live unto Him within greener pastures. We walk with Him. I am not sure a Christian needs to pray that He walk with us as that is a given when we come into Christ. It is always happening with the faithful. However our walk with Him can go amiss. So we pray that we have wisdom and understanding in His Spirit that our walk with Him always be found in the strength and Spirit of His word according to His will not ours. In His love, ollie Title: Re:Prayer Question: "He Walks with Us" or is it "We Walk with Him"? Post by: Reba on July 23, 2005, 09:27:57 AM Now, as I read my last post, I confuse myself more: I said: Quote Roundup is the opposite of day herding. It is the act of rousting the cattle and moving them from one place to another for their own good (giving them medicine, moving them to better grass and water, etc.) I just realized that is not totally true: Sometimes 'roundup' means gathering cattle not "for their own good", but for slaughter... ??? Confused more? All my Xs live in Texas hehe What Ollie said...... Title: Re:Prayer Question: "He Walks with Us" or is it "We Walk with Him"? Post by: Soldier4Christ on July 23, 2005, 11:38:46 AM Is it not both? We walk with Him and He walks with us.
Psa 86:11 Teach me thy way, O LORD; I will walk in thy truth: unite my heart to fear thy name. Psa 89:15 Blessed is the people that know the joyful sound: they shall walk, O LORD, in the light of thy countenance. Psa 143:8 Cause me to hear thy lovingkindness in the morning; for in thee do I trust: cause me to know the way wherein I should walk; for I lift up my soul unto thee. When we seek the path and walk in truth we are walking with Him. 2Co 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Heb 13:5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. And if He does not leave us, is He then not walking with us? Title: Re:Prayer Question: "He Walks with Us" or is it "We Walk with Him"? Post by: smokey the dog on October 10, 2005, 09:19:09 PM Hmmm, good question.
they are certainly two different requests. THe lord always walks with us (He promiced to never leave us or forsake us) But we don't always walk with the Lord. Title: Re:Prayer Question: "He Walks with Us" or is it "We Walk with Him"? Post by: ollie on November 01, 2005, 07:20:03 PM Heb 13:5 "Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee"
This being addressed to Christians; one is assurred that Christ will never leave or forsake His own. It is not Christ that stops walking with the Christian or leaving or forsaking such, He is always there/here, but rather the Christian can stop His walk with the Christ, can leave and forsake Jesus. ollie Title: Re:Prayer Question: "He Walks with Us" or is it "We Walk with Him"? Post by: pocket on December 03, 2005, 11:50:41 PM As I was riding train this morning, commuting to work (praying about the London train bombings, among other things…) I confused me. (Reba, Cris and others understand this is a common occurrence for someone who regularly “kills himself” with his foolish jokes…) I asked the Lord to walk with me in one breath, and in the next breath I asked for strength to walk with the Lord. Bear with me, here: Much of my early rearing was on a west Texas ranch, and the very first wages I ever earned were as a ‘cowboy’. A cowboy knows two kinds of “herding”: ‘Day herding’ and ‘roundup’. Day herding takes place when new cattle are introduced to the ranch. They are always restless and have a tendency to roam fence lines rather than relaxing and becoming acquainted with their new surroundings. “Day herding” is the act of sitting on your horse and keeping the cattle from moving so they will become calm and used to their surroundings. Roundup is the opposite of day herding. It is the act of rousting the cattle and moving them from one place to another for their own good (giving them medicine, moving them to better grass and water, etc.) The Lord is our Shepherd (cowboy). Sometimes he ‘day herds’ (walks with us) and sometimes he does a ‘roundup’ (we must walk with Him). How do we know when to pray for which? On the surface they sound almost the same – but in practice, they are almost opposite. How do we know when to recognize Jesus’ intent to let us rest in Him as opposed to when the Lord intends for us to move under His direction? I would expect to find some of these answers in Proverbs, Ecclesiastes or Psalms; but a short search revealed nothing that REALLY jumped out at me. You texan's are Luky fellow's with fences and all. our outfit put up some with real shiny pretty barbs and all.The elk sure enjoyed its company why it lasted which was not long.Tried putting some just elbow high to a low horse to.But the problem has been pretty well solved now day's.Cattle and cowboy's no longer welcome in much of the wild wild Mountain west. |