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Title: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Shammu on June 10, 2007, 12:35:51 AM
Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.  http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the United States. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries . Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S. from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period." http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ". http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

15. Every day 12 Americans are murdered by an illegalalien. Another 13 Americans are killed by uninsured drunk illegal aliens and Eight American Children are victims of a sex crime committed by an illegal alien each day! (Toto, we're not in Kansas anymore.) http://tinyurl.com/2ungbu

16. Today, criminal aliens account for over 29 percent of prisoners in Federal Bureau of Prisons facilities and a higher share of all federal prison inmates. These prisoners represent the fastest growing segment of the federal prison population. Incarceration of criminal aliens cost an estimated $624 million to state prisons (1999) and $891 million to federal prisons (2002), according to the most recent available figure from the Bureau of Justice Statistics. http://tinyurl.com/ahjkg

17. "Illegal Aliens and American Medicine". "Many illegal aliens harbor fataldiseases that American Medicine fought and vanquished long ago, such as drug-resistant tuberculosis, malaria, leprosy, plague, polio, dengue and Chagas disease." The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons http://www.jpands.org/jpands1001.htm

18. In 2002, HIV/AIDS was the third leading cause of death among Hispanic men aged 35 to 44 and the fourth leading cause of death among Hispanic women in the same age group. Some Hispanic men were exposed to HIV through sexual contact with other men. Source (CDC): http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/hispanic.htm

19. If enacted the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act (CIRA, S. 2611) would be the most dramatic change in immigration law in 80 years, allowing an estimated 103 million persons to legally immigrate to the U.S. over the next 20 years -fully one-third of the current population of the United States. http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm

20. U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) today unveiled an impact analysis that shows the Senate immigration bill -should it become law - would permit up to 217.1 million new legal immigrants into the United States over the next 20 years, a number equal to 66 percent of the total current population. http://tinyurl.com/3cawk3

21. The number of illegal immigrants in the United States may be as high as 20 million people, more than double the official 9 million people estimated by the Census Bureau. 1/3/05 http://tinyurl.com/2rxtwm

22. Cases of Leprosy on The Rise In The U.S., The New York Times. "While there were some 900 recorded cases in the United States 40 years ago, today more than 7,000 people have leprosy.." Leprosy is an airbourne virus, it can also be spread by touching and coughing. http://tinyurl.com/3bnukp

23. Organizations Protesting Immigration Reform, State by State. Won't you join in? http://www.oregonir.org/Immigration_Reform_Orgs.htm

24. America Welcomes Illegal's Contagious Disease. http://www.rense.com/general64/ill.htm

25. Mexico is the 4th Richest Oil Nation in the World. http://tinyurl.com/35qbap



Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Shammu on June 10, 2007, 12:41:01 AM
Staggering statistics....... This is the reason for the outcry of the majority of Americans. The bleeding hearts will call me a racist and will say these good people need to be treated humanely. They will say "as a Christians it is your duty to show love and compassion towards them".

I can still love them, when I deport them.

Here's a whopper for y'all....... One congressional liaisons got a call from a Senator who was insisting that his constituent be granted a work permit. The constituent was an illegal from a mid-eastern country. Background checks showed he was a suspected terrorist!!  Want to know the guys job............ DRIVING A SCHOOL BUS!!!!


Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: islandboy on June 11, 2007, 10:26:41 AM
One of the biggest reasons I can think of would be, so Americans can have their jobs back. We will work in the fields, restaurants, motels, construction, fast food, medical industry and etc......... Lots of Americans already work and have worked for minim wage. Our seniors, and lower and middle class workers and teenagers are hard-placed to find jobs. The top notch jobs only go to collage graduates. We would love to have our jobs back.


Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: David_james on June 11, 2007, 10:45:49 AM
I think you guys are being harsh. Jesus would welcome them.


Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Soldier4Christ on June 11, 2007, 10:48:15 AM
Hi David,

Jesus is to sure to welcome them into His family but He would also chastise them for breaking laws. The word "Illegal" is there for a reason. Jesus would also have told them of their need to repent and to turn from their ways.





Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: David_james on June 11, 2007, 04:20:39 PM
I am not saying they should not be punished or whatever but they should be allowed to stay. Make them legal citizens. They go to the states or Canada for a reason. Don't throw them back to the wolves.


Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Brother Jerry on June 11, 2007, 04:25:43 PM
I welcome them as well.  I welcome them when they take the proper steps to come here legally.

As far as just punishing them for breaking the law and forgiving them and allowing them to stay...  Just as there are millions coming here illegally...there are millions more trying to come here legally.  How is it fair to allow those that came here through breaking the law to stay while we let those who are still waiting with the "wolves" wait?  It is not.  And it would do nothing but cost the tax payers more money if we placed them in "detention" facilities until we can get to them and check them out and allow them to come in.  Otherwise we know nothing of them or who they are or what their intentions are.  If they were willing to break the law to get here...how many other laws are they willing to break to stay here?  Could they be mass murderers?  terrorists?  child molesters?  who knows whatelse?  Just because they broke into our country does not mean we are stuck with them until we can figure it out....not while there are others who want to come here and are doing all they can to come here legally and correctly.



Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: David_james on June 11, 2007, 04:49:39 PM
I don't believe this! Since when do Christians care more about money than human needs? Whatever happened to trusting God? Isn't he a God of second chances?


Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Soldier4Christ on June 11, 2007, 04:55:58 PM
I am not saying they should not be punished or whatever but they should be allowed to stay. Make them legal citizens. They go to the states or Canada for a reason. Don't throw them back to the wolves.

I don't believe this! Since when do Christians care more about money than human needs? Whatever happened to trusting God? Isn't he a God of second chances?

It isn't a question of caring more about money than human needs. No one here said that. It is a matter of what's right. Having to lock up law breakers that are not supposed to be here in the first place just doesn't make much sense when that same money could be used to help those that are willing to do the right thing.

Yes, many of them do come here for a reason. All too often it is to avoid prosecution in their own countries. This is not true of all illegals but many of them continue breaking the laws once they get here. Setting up homes in other peoples houses. I know this to be true as it happened to me. I left a home in Memphis, TN to spend time with family in N. Carolina. When I got back I found that a group of illegals had broken into my home and lived there without running water or heat. My home required extensive repair and clean-up. There are articles in the news that many of these are driving with no license or fake license. Robberies, murders, drugs and much more are involved quite heavily in the illegal community.

I have worked with many that have come here legally. I welcome them here with open arms. Like Brother Jerry said, it isn't fair to them to allow those that willingly break laws to come here and stay here.



Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Maryjane on June 11, 2007, 05:36:45 PM
My parents became Untited States citizens...they came from Italy and they felt it an honor to be come a citizen to be in this country that offered opportunity...They never called themselves an Italian american, but an american...I believe if one comes to this country, they have to be a citizen to receive any benefits..to learn the language and to live in this country 2 years before citizenship and benefit is given...

American taxpayers who have children have to wait to send them to school at the age of 4 due to children from other countries taking the place in the school system, who are not citizens but, with our taxes,  we are paying for them to go and our children cannot go...this is an issue where I live...And with this issue brings religions that are more accepted than that of christianity...but I know we can trust God to carry us through any situation and to give us the wisdom to do what we must do at that hour...This earth will pass away and all the troubles it has caused...But God's word will never pass away and it leads to life eternal and we can trust Him knowing He will do what He said He will do..


Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: David_james on June 11, 2007, 05:40:11 PM
No it isn't fair. It isn't fair that murderers and thieves can go to heaven by confessing their sins and accepting Jesus, while people who neither accept or reject Jesus and live a very good life go to hell.


Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Brother Jerry on June 11, 2007, 06:00:10 PM
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No it isn't fair. It isn't fair that murderers and thieves can go to heaven by confessing their sins and accepting Jesus, while people who neither accept or reject Jesus and live a very good life go to hell.

By human standards it does not sound fair.  But then Jesus explained that salvation is not a matter of doing works or how good you live or anything like that.  It is a matter of the heart.  Each person is given the same choice.  Believe in Him or not...All the other stuff does not matter. 

The Bible teaches us that once we accept Jesus we are born again.  We are given a second birth.  And that our transgressions are covered by the blood of Jesus.  From that point on what we did in the past does not matter.  The Bible teaches that everyone has the same decision to make.  What is a shame is that many feel that just because they did good and lived what most would consider a good life...they still made the decision to not believe.  And because that one thing they are in Hell today.  It may not sound fair...but it is just.  Fair is what we humans want to think of and we often try to twist justice to fit fairness when justice is the pure form of God is fair.  There is no unfairness in God...there is only justness.

And I would trust in His justness over anyones fairness any day of the week.


Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: David_james on June 11, 2007, 06:10:21 PM
Yes I know that brother. I guess I am not very smart.


Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Soldier4Christ on June 11, 2007, 11:06:49 PM
By human standards it does not sound fair.  But then Jesus explained that salvation is not a matter of doing works or how good you live or anything like that.  It is a matter of the heart.  Each person is given the same choice.  Believe in Him or not...All the other stuff does not matter. 

The Bible teaches us that once we accept Jesus we are born again.  We are given a second birth.  And that our transgressions are covered by the blood of Jesus.  From that point on what we did in the past does not matter.  The Bible teaches that everyone has the same decision to make.  What is a shame is that many feel that just because they did good and lived what most would consider a good life...they still made the decision to not believe.  And because that one thing they are in Hell today.  It may not sound fair...but it is just.  Fair is what we humans want to think of and we often try to twist justice to fit fairness when justice is the pure form of God is fair.  There is no unfairness in God...there is only justness.

And I would trust in His justness over anyones fairness any day of the week.

Amen, brother. A repentant heart does make a difference.



Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Faithin1 on June 11, 2007, 11:20:31 PM
I consider myself to be a compassionate and loving Christian.  As such, I am not a racist, nor do I hate anyone.  Believing our laws should be enforced is not un-Christian, nor is it being harsh.  Should we ignore other laws as well?  Should we excuse American citizens who are poor and rob a convenience store or a bank, because they can't feed their family?  Should we ignore American citizens who are guilty of identity theft or document fraud, and have ruined the lives of their victims?  Should we embrace pedophiles, rapists, murderers and gang members, due to dysfunctional or impoverished lifestyles, because we have the love of Christ in our lives?

Yes, there are many impoverished people entering our country from Mexico and other countries south of the border.  There are also many vile criminals who enter as well.  In addition, there are many who wish to use our country simply as a giant piggy bank, and have no intentions of ever becoming citizens.  There are millions of people throughout this world who are far more impoverished than those who have entered our country illegally.  We simply can't be the welfare state for the world.  The U.S. has by far, the most generous 'legal' immigration policy in the world, and admits more people legally than all of the other countries combined.  We are also one of the most charitable.  Irrespective of a country's status as friend or foe, we are always one of the first to offer assistance in response to disasters.

The pro-illegal crowd, conveniently fail to differentiate between legal immigrants and illegal aliens.  There is a HUGE difference.  I welcome those who enter our country legally, who desire to become an American citizen, who abide by OUR laws, learn English, and assimilate into the culture of THIS country.  I resent people who have entered this country illegally, and have the audacity to march in OUR streets and 'demand' rights reserved for legal citizens, while proudly waving Mexican flags, and simultaneously burning or carrying inverted U.S. flags.   Rather than showing appreciation for the generosity of the American taxpayer, there is a demeanor of arrogance and entitlement. 

I vehemently oppose the amnesty bill due to the fact that it rewards those who entered our country illegally, and makes a mockery out of those who chose to abide by our immigration laws.  An acquaintance overheard a young man brazenly admit to being in this country illegally, and referred to those who have chosen to play by the rules, as ‘suckers.’     

It is not racist, nor un-Christian to value the sovereignty and the culture of this country.  It is not racist, nor un-Christian to resent the depression of wages due to cheap illegal labor.  It is not racist, nor un-Christian to resent the closure of local hospitals due to burgeoning costs resulting from unpaid medical bills of illegal aliens.  It is not racist, nor un-Christian to love my country, and to resent those who wish to transform it into a third world cesspool.  It is not racist, nor un-Christian to expect our laws to be enforced.  Nor is it racist, or un-Christian to expect those who choose to break our laws to be punished, rather than rewarded.

God will not find faultless, those so-called religious leaders who are exploiting the name of Jesus, to further their illegal immigration (greed) agendas.  It is absolutely disgraceful, and true Christians will not be swayed by their deceptive and blaspheming tactics.   I can possess Christian love for others without condoning or endorsing their actions. 

I saw the following comments posted online, and feel they are worth sharing:

Let's say I break into your house. Let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors; I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house).

According to the proponents of illegal immigration, not only must you let me stay, you must add me to your family's insurance plan, educate my kids, and provide other benefits to me and to my family (my husband will do your yard work because he too is hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in part).

If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my right to be there.

It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm hard-working and honest, um, except for well, you know.

And what a deal it is for me! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of selfishness, prejudice and being an anti-housebreaker. Oh yeah, and I want you to learn my language so you can communicate with me.


Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Soldier4Christ on June 11, 2007, 11:34:50 PM
Amen and Amen!



Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: nChrist on June 12, 2007, 06:27:59 PM
I consider myself to be a compassionate and loving Christian.  As such, I am not a racist, nor do I hate anyone.  Believing our laws should be enforced is not un-Christian, nor is it being harsh.  Should we ignore other laws as well?  Should we excuse American citizens who are poor and rob a convenience store or a bank, because they can't feed their family?  Should we ignore American citizens who are guilty of identity theft or document fraud, and have ruined the lives of their victims?  Should we embrace pedophiles, rapists, murderers and gang members, due to dysfunctional or impoverished lifestyles, because we have the love of Christ in our lives?

Yes, there are many impoverished people entering our country from Mexico and other countries south of the border.  There are also many vile criminals who enter as well.  In addition, there are many who wish to use our country simply as a giant piggy bank, and have no intentions of ever becoming citizens.  There are millions of people throughout this world who are far more impoverished than those who have entered our country illegally.  We simply can't be the welfare state for the world.  The U.S. has by far, the most generous 'legal' immigration policy in the world, and admits more people legally than all of the other countries combined.  We are also one of the most charitable.  Irrespective of a country's status as friend or foe, we are always one of the first to offer assistance in response to disasters.

The pro-illegal crowd, conveniently fail to differentiate between legal immigrants and illegal aliens.  There is a HUGE difference.  I welcome those who enter our country legally, who desire to become an American citizen, who abide by OUR laws, learn English, and assimilate into the culture of THIS country.  I resent people who have entered this country illegally, and have the audacity to march in OUR streets and 'demand' rights reserved for legal citizens, while proudly waving Mexican flags, and simultaneously burning or carrying inverted U.S. flags.   Rather than showing appreciation for the generosity of the American taxpayer, there is a demeanor of arrogance and entitlement. 

I vehemently oppose the amnesty bill due to the fact that it rewards those who entered our country illegally, and makes a mockery out of those who chose to abide by our immigration laws.  An acquaintance overheard a young man brazenly admit to being in this country illegally, and referred to those who have chosen to play by the rules, as ‘suckers.’     

It is not racist, nor un-Christian to value the sovereignty and the culture of this country.  It is not racist, nor un-Christian to resent the depression of wages due to cheap illegal labor.  It is not racist, nor un-Christian to resent the closure of local hospitals due to burgeoning costs resulting from unpaid medical bills of illegal aliens.  It is not racist, nor un-Christian to love my country, and to resent those who wish to transform it into a third world cesspool.  It is not racist, nor un-Christian to expect our laws to be enforced.  Nor is it racist, or un-Christian to expect those who choose to break our laws to be punished, rather than rewarded.

God will not find faultless, those so-called religious leaders who are exploiting the name of Jesus, to further their illegal immigration (greed) agendas.  It is absolutely disgraceful, and true Christians will not be swayed by their deceptive and blaspheming tactics.   I can possess Christian love for others without condoning or endorsing their actions. 

I saw the following comments posted online, and feel they are worth sharing:

Let's say I break into your house. Let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors; I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house).

According to the proponents of illegal immigration, not only must you let me stay, you must add me to your family's insurance plan, educate my kids, and provide other benefits to me and to my family (my husband will do your yard work because he too is hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in part).

If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my right to be there.

It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm hard-working and honest, um, except for well, you know.

And what a deal it is for me! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of selfishness, prejudice and being an anti-housebreaker. Oh yeah, and I want you to learn my language so you can communicate with me.


Hello Faithin1,

I quoted your entire post because I think it is an excellent summary. I firmly believe in LEGAL IMMIGRATION only. The people in this part of the world are known for big hearts and sending all kinds of aid all over the world, including aid to our enemies. ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION has the potential to bankrupt us or greatly impact our ability to help hosts of people all around the world. ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION also means many criminals, dope runners, terrorists, and other people who wish to harm or destroy us. Again, all of these SOUR ingredients have the potential to destroy our ability to help millions of innocent people around the world. We help these millions of people because we want to. We must consider preserving our strength and ability to keep helping them. Finally, we must have laws if we want to survive. If the laws aren't enforced, they're worthless. Obviously, we must survive if we are to continue helping many millions around the world. Violations of our sovereignty results in exploitation of our way of life. Exploitation can result in ruin, and the impact would not be limited to just our own people. In other words, our system can be broken and that would have a horrible impact on many millions of innocent people around the world.

Plainly and bluntly, what happens if the HELPERS get trampled to death? I would be talking about the LEGAL CITIZENS of this part of the world. It's also quite reasonable to know that we could be over-run, ruined, or conquered. In all cases, our ability to help would be diminished or ended. Where would the rest of the world be then?


Love In Christ,
Tom

1 Corinthians 2:2-5 NASB  For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified. I was with you in weakness and in fear and in much trembling, and my message and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that your faith would not rest on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God.


Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: David_james on June 12, 2007, 08:47:16 PM
I see what you guys are saying now. I guess it is a bad situation, it can't be easy to kick them out.


Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Soldier4Christ on June 12, 2007, 08:50:00 PM
I see what you guys are saying now. I guess it is a bad situation, it can't be easy to kick them out.

Not when they can keep coming back so easily.



Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Shammu on June 12, 2007, 08:53:04 PM
I live in one of the border states David, you wouldn't believe the problems, when they are here.


Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Faithin1 on June 13, 2007, 02:54:31 PM
Tom, thank you for your critique.  I didn't intend to be so long-winded, but I am totally outraged by this issue.

David, the unfortunate truth is that our government and the corporate-owned media, do not want the American citizens to know the truth.  The ultimate goal is to combine the U.S., Canada and Mexico into the North American Union (NAU).  It is all a part of a diabolical scheme that will, if permitted, lead to the destruction of our great country.  Many of our politicians have made a pact with the devil, and therefore cannot be trusted.  They are willing to sell our country to the highest bidder.  It is pure GREED. 

I can't post a link here, but there are excellent sources on the internet where you can learn what is really happening in this country.  Praise the Lord, Christians Unite is also an excellent source of the truth.  When searching the internet, just look for forums under 'Illegal Immigration.' However, beware of  hate groups who are trying to use this issue to advance their evil agendas.  Fortunately, they are easily recognized by their hate-filled and racist content.   

Please join us in constant prayer for our country. 


Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: nChrist on June 13, 2007, 06:12:05 PM
Hello Faithin1,

Sister, we have several threads already on the forum that address the proposed North American Union. We also gave information on how to easily obtain thousands of links in any search engine. This isn't one of those conspiracy theories advanced by nut cases. There are piles of documents that anyone can examine, and the huge number of sources include some of our own elected representatives. There are already well-organized citizen groups in Canada and the U.S. to stop this. The whistle has already been blown and the secret is out. In my opinion, there is no way that the people will allow this. There are numerous articles about the North American Union on:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/

There are also many links to judge the information for yourself. I might add that WorldNet Daily is a source of Christian news that is trusted. You will see many links to WorldNet Daily on Christians Unite, including our Christian News section.


Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Soldier4Christ on June 13, 2007, 06:31:40 PM
Another one that has a lot of articles on this is

http://www.onenewsnow.com/

One News Now is an affiliate of American Family Association. It is the former Agape Press which also is posted here on CU's forum and on CU's Religion News web page. One News Now has had many interviews with various politicians that have provided proof that this is not a conspiracy theory but is indeed a fact.

All of this ties in with the lack of action on illegal immigrants, border issues, Congressional talks of a unified money, a trans-continental free-way and much more.



Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Faithin1 on June 13, 2007, 09:20:09 PM
Brothers, thank you so much. 

I never noticed the links to those sites.  For some reason, I was under the impression that links were prohibited.  I am convinced that the NAU is indeed a fact, although when mentioned in certain circles, it is dismissed as a conspiracy theory.  I will go to the sites you've listed, because I want to learn as much as possible.  I would also like to have reputable sites for others to search for the truth.

I firmly believe that the NAU is a primary reason for the failure to secure our borders.  Apparently, our government is willing to jeopardize the safety of the entire country in order to make this a reality.


Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Soldier4Christ on June 13, 2007, 09:32:45 PM


The only links that are prohibited are to material that is "Disrespect, mockery, or blasphemy of Almighty God, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, the Holy Bible, and Christianity" and those that link to web sites for the purpose of advertising or soliciting donations. A better definition of this is in the forum rules.



Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: nChrist on June 13, 2007, 09:38:26 PM
Thanks Pastor Roger!

Brother, I appreciate the update on Agape Press. This is just another reminder that I need to do some updates on my web page. Agape Press was and is excellent as a news source for Christian families.

I have the new One News Now in my favorite bookmarks for Christian News. I must also state that the American Family Association is excellent.

I highly recommend the Christian News area on Christians Unite. It always has a variety of issues that are important for Christians. I'll also say that I think it is unbiased news. Liberals might think it's biased, but most Christians consider these sources as accurate and true. Look in the menu on the left side of your screen and try all of the links on Christians Unite.


Love In Christ,
Tom

Psalms 97:10 NASB  Hate evil, you who love the LORD, Who preserves the souls of His godly ones; He delivers them from the hand of the wicked.


Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Faithin1 on June 13, 2007, 10:16:47 PM
I went to both sites referred, and found them to be quite informative.  I watched a video entitled "The First Annual Open Borders Oscars" on WorldNetDaily that was absolutely hilarious.   

I must admit to being embarrassed   (http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb87/mom2bran/Embarassed1.gif)  after coming here almost daily, and not being more aware of the other sites.  I saw them, but I didn't see them.  If that makes any sense.  As someone who is known for being ultra-observant, this is so strange.  Thanks again!


Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Soldier4Christ on June 13, 2007, 10:53:45 PM
No need to be embarrassed sister. Many of the news posts that I put on the forum from them doesn't have the link but they do mention WND somewhere within the text instead.

I must have missed that video somehow and I go to WND a number of times daily. I usually watch all the videos they post.



Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Faithin1 on June 13, 2007, 11:02:46 PM
No need to be embarrassed sister. Many of the news posts that I put on the forum from them doesn't have the link but they do mention WND somewhere within the text instead.

I must have missed that video somehow and I go to WND a number of times daily. I usually watch all the videos they post.

Yes, I have seen WND posted countless times, but just never made a connection.  Here is the video, enjoy.  http://www.ifilm.com/profile/hotair1/video/2863885


Title: Re: Some Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens
Post by: Maryjane on June 27, 2007, 11:51:54 PM
Hi...

Wow...there is so much going on in our world!...All that comes to mind is..God is faithful..It is His plan that all men should be saved...Even the worst can be saved...
We are to abide by the laws of the land..but frankly...the laws are distorted in many ways...but God is still the same today as yesterday and it is for us as christians to abide by His word...to find the opportunities to witness to all men...There are many illegal who come to this country..and it is sad that so many have to come illegally, but the lost do not know any better than to be lost..we can make a difference even if one illegal is witnessed to before being deported...I think there is going to be no difference in whether they come as many things are being accepted in this country due to politics that are worldly...but...we trust in one who is above it all and will have His will done no matter what...we can trust in Him knowing that we have been given clear vision...We are not politicians..but christians and we have been given a greater role in this world and that of evangelism...no matter where the people come from...the United States is a vast missionfield and it will soon be a larger mission field and the laborers are few...