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16  Theology / General Theology / Re:ULTRADISPENSATIONALISM: BIBLE TRUTH OR HERESY? on: December 31, 2003, 01:41:00 AM
ULTRADISPENSATIONALISM: BIBLE TRUTH OR HERESY?




"heresy"



Charles Ryrie states,

"The weakness of ultradispensationalism is that it fails to recognize that the nature of a dispensation is based on what God does, not on human understanding of His purposes.  The error of ultradispensationalism lies in a faulty concept of a dispensation, exegesis of key passages, understanding when the mystery was revealed, and the baptizing ministry of the Holy Spirit.  The biblical evidence does not support ultradispensationalism."


~serapha~

17  Theology / Bible Study / Re:He that shall endure to the end... on: December 31, 2003, 01:20:35 AM
Hi there!

I am new here, and the first thing I have learned.... it is frustrating to type a response and then learn you are timed out and the response is lost.  Do you always have to "save" every response just in case you are booted off?


anyway, back to the original question.


Matthew 24.... the Olivet Discourse.  Who is it addressed to?   Well, it isn't the church, for the church is gone; but it is directed to the Jewish nation which will have to endure the wrath of God to the end to be saved to the millennial kingdom.  

~serapha~
18  Theology / Bible Study / Re:Divorce? on: December 31, 2003, 01:04:17 AM
What does the Bible say about divorce? and the "Church"?
What affect has this had on our society?


Hellow rapha,

 Grin

I want to inject a new thought  into a somewhat tense interpretation of marriage.  

So what does the church think?  
 Well, those that have endured a divorce learn a new word, and it is

"justification"  

Just like they believe that when their sins are forgiven and God no longer remembers them, is is "just as if I'd" never sinned.  

People have "justified" divorce.... they seek forgiveness from God and think that it is "just as if I'd" never been married, and then they think they are "free" to marry again as though there was never a first marriage.

Justification is a forgiveness and a forgetting of sins, but those who are "just as if I'd" ---still have to live with the repercussions of their forgiven sins.  For example, if one smokes cigarettes for years, and seeks deliverance from that bad habit which harms the "temple" given by God, then certainly, the person is justified, their habit is "just as if I'd" never smoked cigarettes.  But justification doesn't take away the possibility of lung cancer because of their actions.

The same is true for marriage and divorce.  If one is "justified" of their divorce, that they have repented of their sins involved in the divorce, while the sin is justified, it doesn't make the marriage covenant with God disappear.  

God never changes.  He still hates divorce, and "justification" doesn't change that.

The "church" and the believers of the "church"  need to go back to the basics in marriage, and seek God's will.  


~serapha~


19  Theology / Bible Study / Re:Peter, the Rock, and the Keys on: December 31, 2003, 12:39:02 AM
"He [Christ] saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
And simon Peter answered and said, THOU ART THE CHRIST, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD.
And Jesus answered and said, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church: and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven:and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shlat loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."             Matthew 16:15-19


Hello Sower,

That is a good posting....

May I add to your information?  

For this particular passage, context and location is important.  In the previous verses, it is identified that Jesus is walking along the coast of Caesarea Philippi (present-day Banias) with His disciples when He turns to them and asks them, "Who do men say that I am?"


Now, in the background as the disciple look at Jesus, they would be seeing the temple to the Greek god "Pan" to the left and behind Jesus, and on the right, they would see the monumental temple to King Herod.   And who do men say that Christ is?  Is Christ a Greek god deserving of temple worship?  Or worthy of worship because He is an earthly king?

Neither.  When Peter is asked who Christ is, he replies, "You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God."

Peter knew that Christ was not a man-made god like Pan, or a governing ruler like Herod, but the actual Son of God.

And in looking further at the text you cited.... concerning Peter the "rock".  It isn't a coincidence that Christ has a reference to "rock" in the region of Caesarea Philippi, for in the rock face of the palace area, there are niches carved out of the stone where rock idols are placed to be view from the distance as one approaches Caesarea Philippi.

And it isn't coincidence that Christ would speak of the gates of hell, for Greek mythology teaches that when the water flow from the cave of Pan is lowered, mythology teaches that the actual "gates of hell" are opened and it is thought that demons come through the gates of hell to walk on the earth.  


It wasn't a coincidence that Jesus spoke the words that He did in the area where He was teaching His disciples.   Each phrase represented something from the history of Caesarea Philippi.  

The "keys to the kingdom"... that's the true teachings of salvation through Jesus Christ and not the teaching of Greek mythology or of King Herod.   He gave His disciples the truth.  


~serapha~





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