Why was Jesus Baptized?

[Heidi]

I think that is an important disticintion, Petro. If people believe it is baptism "of" the Holy Ghost" then they think they're saved by baptism alone. there are many churches with this view.

[Petro]

Heidi,

After reading your post I saw I had inserted the word "by" and had to correct it.

When the word "by", "of, are inserted for the word "with" it definitely changes the meaning of the Baptism which was to be performed by Jesus,  spoken by John the Baptist at John 1:33.

John baptized with water, in order to make Jesus manifest to the Nation of Israel, he makes this clear at (Jhn 1:31), his baptism did not produce the Holy Spirit, but the Baptism of Jesus did and does even today, this is the real baptism spoke of by John...


Blessings,

Petro

[Heidi]

I disagree. i was baptized as an infant and didn't have a clue that Jesus was real until I received the Holy Spirit 35 years later.

[Petro]

I disagree. i was baptized as an infant and didn't have a clue that Jesus was real until I received the Holy Spirit 35 years later.

I don't understand what you disagree with.

But, it doesn't matter, the fact you were an infant, means to me, you doidn't know the difference between the meaning of these words anyhow.

And it is clear if and when you received the Holy Spirit it was because you trusted in Gods Word.

Blessings,

Petro

[Heidi]

Actually, I did not trust God's word before I received the Holy Spirit. It didn't make sense to me. Within minutes I went from being an agnostic to a staunch supporter of Christ because after receiveing the Holy Spirit, i knew He was real. It is the Holy Spirit that shows us the truth of His words, not our superior intelligence.

[Petro]

Actually, I did not trust God's word before I received the Holy Spirit. It didn't make sense to me. Within minutes I went from being an agnostic to a staunch supporter of Christ because after receiveing the Holy Spirit, i knew He was real. It is the Holy Spirit that shows us the truth of His words, not our superior intelligence.

Hmmmmm....  so, let me see if I understand?

You received the Holy Spirit before you believed??

I don't know that this sounds right to me, but I guess if anyone knows that would be you....

What else can I say......nothing I guess.

Blessings,
Petro

[Heidi]

Of course. It's the Holy Spirit that enables us to believe. It isn't our superior intelligence or loving heart and excellent wisdom. It's the Holy Spirit. That's why all of Jesus's disciples abandoned Him at His death. It wasn't until they received the Holy Spirit at pentecost that they "suddenly" decided to give up their lives for Him. Jesus said "eternal life is this: That you know the one true God and His son, Jesus Christ." He specifically used the word "know". When did you receive the Holy Spirit?