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Title: THE NEW POPE
Post by: BUTCHA on April 09, 2005, 07:28:53 PM
I KNOW THAT THEIRS NOT MANY CATHOLICS HERE , BUT WAS JUST THINKING HOW NICE IT WOULD BE TO HAVE A POPE FROM LATIN AMERICA OR AFRICA EVEN.


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: Shammu on April 16, 2005, 02:32:46 AM
I KNOW THAT THEIRS NOT MANY CATHOLICS HERE , BUT WAS JUST THINKING HOW NICE IT WOULD BE TO HAVE A POPE FROM LATIN AMERICA OR AFRICA EVEN.
???


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: JudgeNot on April 16, 2005, 09:35:23 PM
Why?


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: BUTCHA on April 21, 2005, 06:58:21 PM
because i dont feel as though , a pope from europe has the drive to help change the church and i feel the cardinals from latin america are of a different breed.

another insider will just keep the train on the coarse its on.


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: BUTCHA on April 21, 2005, 07:04:42 PM
im ignorent , when it comes to the pope but i was bumbed out it was such a insider elected, hope im wrong and hes good for the church.


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: John 3:16 on April 21, 2005, 09:44:11 PM
i dont wishship or sever  man or pope i wishship and sever the Lord Jesus Christ

Richard
       
    Only Jesus Can Save Something A Man Or Pope Can'nt do


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: Corpus on April 22, 2005, 12:46:24 PM
Butcha,

I understand your sentiment, though I'm not certain which 'changes' you'd like to see. On matters of women in the priesthood, legitimization of homsexual unions, relaxation on abortion and contraception, it wouldn't matter who was elected pope. These issues wouldn't change because they simply can't be changed as a matter of contemporary compliance.

When I read your post about Latin America and change I immediately thought of the liberation theology that's taken root there. It's a frightening attempt by some to merge scripture with Marxist thought. You might not have been thinking that in particular, but as I said, the word 'change' raised some flags on my part.

Anyhow, Ratzinger is largely acclaimed a good man who will hold firm to an objective view of God's word. This was characterized in his homily just a few days back about the pervasive evil of relativism so rampant now in much of western civilization. For those who at least respected JPII, they must remember that the two worked closely together for decades. Also, Ratzinger's job description has essentially changed with his election. Given that, you might even get surprised by him from time to time in the coming months. ;)

This is the prayer section though, so at the very least it would be appreciated if people prayed for Benedict XVI and the Catholic church

And John,
No Catholic believes the pope can save him.
Jeesh!  :)


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: BUTCHA on April 22, 2005, 04:15:08 PM
no , i didny mean liberal , im a conservitive christian republican and father of 5 , i meant change in the catholic church in what i think ill avoid getting into do to we already had a big debate on catholics on this sight and i dont want it revisited.think this way im from boston , cardinal law was part of a big sex scandal of preist molesting children in boston and the old pope got him out of here before the atterny general could do anything to him now hes a big shot at the vatican with all the other insiders whom have blinders on . and no i worship no man priest nor pope, but if one doesnt wish for good in any christain religion and could care less , i quistion thier walk with christ.   with love butch


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: Tibby on April 23, 2005, 02:34:33 AM
I just hope this Pope starts what I have been talking about for years: A group of really big, really strong preists from Siciely to come over here to America and take care of the Liberals and Child Molesters! ;D I'd love to here to Pope call up some of these Pro-choice, child abuse hiding ArchBishops here with a comment like "Don't make me send Fr. Venny and  Dn.Guedo to bust ya knee caps!"  ;D


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: nChrist on April 23, 2005, 03:26:23 PM
I just hope this Pope starts what I have been talking about for years: A group of really big, really strong preists from Siciely to come over here to America and take care of the Liberals and Child Molesters! ;D I'd love to here to Pope call up some of these Pro-choice, child abuse hiding ArchBishops here with a comment like "Don't make me send Fr. Venny and  Dn.Guedo to bust ya knee caps!"  ;D

 ;D   ;D  Tibby, You're killin' me. AND, for repeat offenders:

Concrete shoes and swim with the fishes.

Let's see, was that Godfather I, II, or III?


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: BUTCHA on April 23, 2005, 03:55:09 PM
ok now thats some of the reform and change i was talking about...im sure if brother love was still around hed know a few changes needed


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: Tibby on April 23, 2005, 04:20:15 PM
I’m going to make a series of movies called the “The Holy Father Trilogy”  :-D

"Leave the mitre, take the Holy Water!”

"You come to me on this, the day of my Brothers’ Ordination..."

[An Archbishop finds a fish in his Vestments]
Fr. Corleone: "What is this?"
Monk: "It's a Catholic message. It means it's Friday."
 
Fr. Corleone: "The Holy father is no different than any other leader of a Church, like your paster or Benny Hen or Ron Luce!"
A Baptist Chick: "Do you know how naive you sound, Fr. Michael? My Pastor, Benny Hen and Ron Luce’s followers don’t think they are infallible!"
Fr. Corleone: "Oh? Who's being naive?"

;D I need to got rent and rewrite this! Finally, a movie about Catholics that DOESN'T involve some make-believe group of evil secret Priests that Baptists think is real. ;D



ok now thats some of the reform and change i was talking about...im sure if brother love was still around hed know a few changes needed

I think everyone as CU need to start a grass roots movement to make Me the Pope, and make Mr. T a Cardinal. ;D Me and Mr. T Will give some Liberal Preists an "offer they can't refuse."  ;D  I pitty the fool who harms a Child of God! 8)


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: ollie on April 23, 2005, 10:22:45 PM
because i dont feel as though , a pope from europe has the drive to help change the church and i feel the cardinals from latin america are of a different breed.

another insider will just keep the train on the coarse its on.
"another insider will just keep the train on the coarse its on."

And where would it be headed?  
 
 


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: Shammu on April 24, 2005, 01:27:24 AM
I’m going to make a series of movies called the “The Holy Father Trilogy”  :-D

"Leave the mitre, take the Holy Water!”

"You come to me on this, the day of my Brothers’ Ordination..."

[An Archbishop finds a fish in his Vestments]
Fr. Corleone: "What is this?"
Monk: "It's a Catholic message. It means it's Friday."
 
Fr. Corleone: "The Holy father is no different than any other leader of a Church, like your paster or Benny Hen or Ron Luce!"
A Baptist Chick: "Do you know how naive you sound, Fr. Michael? My Pastor, Benny Hen and Ron Luce’s followers don’t think they are infallible!"
Fr. Corleone: "Oh? Who's being naive?"

;D I need to got rent and rewrite this! Finally, a movie about Catholics that DOESN'T involve some make-believe group of evil secret Priests that Baptists think is real. ;D



ok now thats some of the reform and change i was talking about...im sure if brother love was still around hed know a few changes needed

I think everyone as CU need to start a grass roots movement to make Me the Pope, and make Mr. T a Cardinal. ;D Me and Mr. T Will give some Liberal Preists an "offer they can't refuse."  ;D  I pitty the fool who harms a Child of God! 8)
;D


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: nChrist on April 24, 2005, 03:26:26 AM
Tibby,

 ;D   ;D

You're killin' me. I want to watch you put the robe and hat on Mr. T. In fact, can we sell tickets to the event?

(http://www.sirinet.net/~blkidps/n29.gif)


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: Shammu on April 24, 2005, 03:34:29 AM
Tibby,

 ;D   ;D

You're killin' me. I want to watch you put the robe and hat on Mr. T. In fact, can we sell tickets to the event?

(http://www.sirinet.net/~blkidps/n29.gif)
I want a ticket, as well.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/DreamWeaver000/kitty-laugh2.gif)


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: nChrist on April 24, 2005, 07:12:26 AM
Dreamweaver,

 ;D   ;D  Brother, I had almost forgotten about that crazy cat of your's. It's a masterpiece.   ;D   ;D

I have a cat too, but it needs work.

(http://www.sirinet.net/~blkidps/n51.gif)


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: BUTCHA on April 24, 2005, 04:50:04 PM
AND SILLY TOT U ALL WERE GOING TO TAKE DIS SERIOUSE ;D


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: Shammu on April 24, 2005, 05:26:18 PM
AND SILLY TOT U ALL WERE GOING TO TAKE DIS SERIOUSE ;D
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Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: John 3:16 on April 24, 2005, 05:28:42 PM
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AND SILLY TOT U ALL WERE GOING TO TAKE DIS SERIOUSE  
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/Jesusfan/mouse1.gif) your killing me


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: JudgeNot on April 25, 2005, 12:25:40 PM
Here's what I consider a good wrap-up concerning the new pope, where he stands and his opposition.

The old saying "...judge a man by his enemies..." really works in this assessment:

http://www.christian-underground.com/archive/read.php?sid=1288 (http://www.christian-underground.com/archive/read.php?sid=1288)


Title: Re:THE NEW POPE
Post by: Tibby on April 25, 2005, 02:58:30 PM
Great site, Judgenot! It was a fun read, to say the least.

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"Cardinal Ratzinger's election as pope will galvanize faithful Catholics to work even more passionately for a renewed priesthood that includes women," said Aisha Taylor, WOC's program director.

Whats this "renewed" women preisthood crap about? >:( Someone has been beening the Daveci code when they should have read their bibles, I think... ::)


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"In the past, he has made deeply disturbing comments regarding gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people so his selection as the 265th pope is distressing. It's imperative that there be a positive conversation with the Catholic Church about GLBT people of faith and we welcome that discourse."

Coming from people who find member of the say (and is some case, BOTH) gender to be sexaully attractive, I guess they know more about what is "deeply disturbing" then the rest of us, uh? ::)


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The Rev. Troy D. Perry, a homosexual activist and moderator of the Metropolitan Community Churches, expressed a "deep sadness that one of the world's most homophobic religious leaders has been elevated to the papacy, and regret that his policies will continue to devalue the rich spiritual gifts of LGBT people and women of faith.

Devalue? Sodomites attacking the Pope's values? pffft ::)


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"My faith teaches that all people can change..."

Hey, look I agree with this guy on something ;D