No irony. 100% Biblical. That's why I asked you to read your Bible.

But, this isn’t the topic of the thread, is it, now?

You started it. Or was it just another attempt at ridicule?

What? Please tell me you are not one of those "left-behind"

people.

What is a "Left-Behind People"?
Ah! I forgot. Since you won't be raptured, you have been prepared by your Leader (mr Pope) to laugh at those who believe they will be. Ridicule is one of Satan’s best weapons.

Read your Bible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[became terrified]

Note.  all underlined tipe are quotes from Sister Eminerich, whose writings Mell used to create his movie    http://www.emmerich1.com/THE_PASSION.htm#CHAPTER%20I

I don't believe he was going for fear, he was just trying to show how upset Jesus was.

........At first Jesus looked calm, as he kneeled down and prayed, but after a time his soul became terrified at the sight of the innumerable crimes of men, and of their ingratitude towards God, and his anguish was so great that he trembled and shuddered as he exclaimed: ‘Father, if is possible, let this chalice pass from me! Father, all things are possible to thee, remove this chalice from me!" But the next moment he added: ‘Nevertheless, not my will but thine be done.’ His will and that of his Father were one, but now that his love had ordained that he should be left to all the weakness of his human nature, he trembled at the prospect of death…........
When Jesus, unrelieved of all the weight of his sufferings, returned to the grotto, he fell prostrate, with his face on the ground and his arms extended, and prayed to his Eternal Father; but his soul had to sustain a second nterior combat, which lasted three-quarters of an hour. Angels came and showed him, in a series of visions, all the sufferings that he was to endure in order to expiate sin; how great was the beauty of man, the image of God, before the fall, and how that beauty was changed and obliterated when sin entered the world. He beheld how all sins originated in that of Adam, the signification and essence of concupiscence, its terrible effects on the powers of the soul, and likewise the signification and essence of all the sufferings entailed by concupiscence. They showed him the satisfaction which he would have to offer to Divine Justice, and how it would consist of a degree of suffering in his soul and body which would comprehend all the sufferings due to the concupiscence of all mankind, since the debt of the whole human race had to be paid by that humanity which alone was sinless—the humanity of the Son of God. The angels showed him all these things under different forms, and I felt what they were saying, although I heard no voice. No tongue can describe what anguish and what horror overwhelmed the soul of Jesus at the sight of so terrible an expiation—his sufferings were so great, indeed, that a bloody sweat issued forth from all the pores of his sacred body.....

You don't seem to get it. She WAS called "Mother" back then! And she WAS hed in such high regard. Catholic, Protestant, and Secular history will all tell you the same thing. This isn't up for debate, it is a fact.

NO YOU ARE WRONG!!! Give us proof!!

Matthew 12:47  Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
48  But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
49  And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
50  For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.


Or in the NIV.  "Your mother"  NOT OUR MOTHER!!!
Note Christ's answer.  "Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?......For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Didn't she do the will of the Father ?


Mary told them how restless and disturbed in mind Judas had latterly appeared, and how abruptly he had left the supper-room. She felt no doubt of his having gone to betray our Lord, for she had often warned him that he was a son of perdition.

She was so wise. Even the Apostles who were close to Judas didn’t see through him. Hm?

She walked along with her head veiled, and her arms frequently stretched forth towards Mount Olivet; for she beheld in spirit Jesus bathed in a bloody sweat, and her gestures were as though she wishcd with her extended hands to wipe the face of her Son. I saw these interior movements of her soul towards Jesus, who thought of her, and turned his eyes in her direction, as if to seek her assistance  . I beheld the spiritual communication which they had with each other, under the form of rays passing to and fro between them.....


 ....I saw Jesus still praying in the grotto, struggling against the repugnance to suffering which belonged to human nature, and abandoning himself wholly to the will of his Eternal Father. Here the abyss opened before him, and he had a vision of the first part of Limbo. He saw Adam and Eve, the patriarchs, prophets, and just men, the parents of his Mother, and John the Baptist, awaiting his arrival in the lower world with such intense longing, that the sight strengthened and gave fresh courage to his loving heart. His death was to open Heaven to these captives,—his death was to deliver them out of that prison in which they were languishing in eager hope! When Jesus had, with deep emotion, looked upon these saints of antiquity, angels presented to him all the bands of saints of future ages, who, joining their labours to the merits of his Passion, were, through him, to be united to his Heavenly Father. Most beautiful and consoling was this vision, in which he beheld salvation and sanctification flowing forth in ceaseless streams from the fountain of redemption opened by his death.
    The apostles, disciples, virgins, and holy women, the martyrs, confessors, hermits, popes, and bishops, and large bands of religious of both sexes—in one word, the entire army of the blessed—appeared before him....



Biblical???
I think not

Tibby

You know, it is the Protestants obessing over Mary, not the Catholics. The fact that Mary was referred to as "Mother" by the early church and was respected isn't a Catholic idea, but a historical fact. No Catholic I have talked to has said anything about "Mary appearing much stronger than the Son of God" or about "Jesus seemed to gain strenght from Gazing at Mary at moments of weakness." Now, if there is a real problem with the movie, let us know, but it seems to me that Protestants are just looking for reasons to dislike the movie. Come on, stop the nat straining and nit-picking!

The Catholics are NOT obsessing over Mary because they believe that she was called mother by everybody then and now. They also believe she was stronger than her Son and that Jesus gained strength from “Gazing” at her.

The movie was made by a strong Roman Catholic, this was widely publicished at the time of the opening. Why is everyone so bothered to see Catholic-leaning attitutes in the movie? What did you expect?

Mell promoted his movie as a True Biblical account of Christ’s last 12 hours. He lied. Nobody expected Catholic mysticism.
No Holiwood production ever portrayed a true Biblical Christ correctly but in their defence, none of them based their movies on a mystic’s dream.

1 Tim 2:5  For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

I'm still waiting!

Dear Fr Tibby
Please shoot this down again. A Protestant built my computer and sometimes it deletes inappropriate posts.

The pope lets people refer to him as the Sovereign of the State of Vatican City, Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Successor of St. Peter, Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Patriarch of the West, Primate of Italy, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Pontifex Maximus, The Pope, and The Holy Father.

Jesus said: "For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted." [Luke 14:11] and "But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi." [Matthew 23:5-7]


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The pope has thousands of servants subordinate to himself called Cardinals, Archbishops, Bishops, Priests, Monks, and Nuns.

Jesus said: "Many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first." [Matthew 19:30] and "And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all." [Mark 10:44]


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The pope talks about peace and love and yet he has yet to reverse the blood thirsty decrees that his church put in place to sanction the murder of people who disagree with Catholicism.

Jesus said: "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not." [Matthew 23:3] and "He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me." [Mark 7:6]


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The pope runs his own self-governed country called Vatican City that has its own secretary of state who meets with ambassadors from many nations.

Jesus said: "My kingdom is not of this world" [John 18:36].


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The pope says he is infallible in matters of faith and morals.

Jesus said: "There shall be false teachers among you" [2 Peter 2:1]. In the Bible God also says: "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." [1John 1:8]


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The pope lives in an enormous palace in Rome.

Jesus said: "Foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath no where to lay his head." [Matthew 8:20]


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The pope controls immeasurable wealth that could be given to the poor.

Jesus said: "lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal" [Matthew 6:20]


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The pope gets a royal welcome from heads of state of almost all countries on earth.

Jesus said: "Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets." [Luke 6:26]

Dear Mel Gibson, since it seems so important to show all graphic detail of Jesus suffering etc, please do some more movies! Especially about stories from the Old Testament. I always thought that the bible had some great sex'n'violence themes and that it had some great potential gothic-style visuals in it.

Some suggestions:

- When God strikes blasphemers with lightning! Please do show us the charcoaled bodies in detail.

- When the Jews raid heathen villages! Please do show us the crushing of heathen babies against the wall in slow motion.

- When Lot sleeps with his daughters! Please make a steamy sex scene. Just to show how disgusting it would be.

etc etc etc

And the funniest thing would be the conservatives NOT being enraged about all this sex and violence!!! Since it's written in the bible, it can't be bad ... can it?  

The pope lets people refer to him as the Sovereign of the State of Vatican City, Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Successor of St. Peter, Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Patriarch of the West, Primate of Italy, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Pontifex Maximus, The Pope, and The Holy Father.

Jesus said: "For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted." [Luke 14:11] and "But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi." [Matthew 23:5-7]


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The pope has thousands of servants subordinate to himself called Cardinals, Archbishops, Bishops, Priests, Monks, and Nuns.

Jesus said: "Many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first." [Matthew 19:30] and "And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all." [Mark 10:44]


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The pope talks about peace and love and yet he has yet to reverse the blood thirsty decrees that his church put in place to sanction the murder of people who disagree with Catholicism.

Jesus said: "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not." [Matthew 23:3] and "He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me." [Mark 7:6]


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The pope runs his own self-governed country called Vatican City that has its own secretary of state who meets with ambassadors from many nations.

Jesus said: "My kingdom is not of this world" [John 18:36].


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The pope says he is infallible in matters of faith and morals.

Jesus said: "There shall be false teachers among you" [2 Peter 2:1]. In the Bible God also says: "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." [1John 1:8]


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The pope lives in an enormous palace in Rome.

Jesus said: "Foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath no where to lay his head." [Matthew 8:20]


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The pope controls immeasurable wealth that could be given to the poor.

Jesus said: "lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal" [Matthew 6:20]


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The pope gets a royal welcome from heads of state of almost all countries on earth.

Jesus said: "Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets." [Luke 6:26]

Tqpix
You sound like me 8 years ago.
I was Greek Orthodox and went regularly to Church but chose to ignore the Mary worshiping and kissing of the icons and.. (there are too many things I ignored). One day I realised that Christianity had NOTHING to do with culture or tradition.
I thought, what would I say when I met my Maker.  “Sorry LORD, but I’m Greek” or “Sorry LORD but I was born a Greek Orthodox so I must die a Greek Orthodox”.
One Sunday I got up early and drove to my local Protestant Church and never looked back.
As for the crossing thing. I found that most people replaced prayer with the physical action of crossing. I don’t believe the act of crossing is of any benefit. In fact I believe it’s just another religious act.

PSALM 119.
I neglected to congratulate you on your previous posts.
Keep the GOOD work up brother.

GOD Bless.

YOU and the Mells of this world are the “natural” men who prefer the writings of men/women rather than those of GOD because you are spiritually discerned.

The god of this world hath blinded your minds.

I bet you would be the first to jump up and down when SDAs quote Ellen White.(No. I'm not an SDA)

I pray that the Holy Spirit will one-day shine on you so you can see the truth through all these lies.