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Title: who doesn't despise any bible topic?
Post by: tonytony on January 25, 2004, 12:57:15 PM
hopefully your not after email chat friends here too just
real sheep on a mission for real bible believer unity.

can you take on these verses ?

1 timothy 2:9-12
mark 16:16
romans 6:1

do you believe matthew 15:14 even if you have to leave a
ministry?

feel driven to fulfill 1 cor. 6; amos 3:3 and 2 timothy 3:16?

otherwise Jesus is talking to you in john 8:44.

dont welcome philosophy comments just give the bible verses
your dealing with w/o posting them up here word for word.
that's very stressful when we got users lined up. just ask everybody to have their bible handy here. hope you take this
in love. thank you.


Title: Re:who doesn't despise any bible topic?
Post by: ollie on January 25, 2004, 01:54:37 PM
hopefully your not after email chat friends here too just
real sheep on a mission for real bible believer unity.

can you take on these verses ?

1 timothy 2:9-12
mark 16:16
romans 6:1

do you believe matthew 15:14 even if you have to leave a
ministry?

feel driven to fulfill 1 cor. 6; amos 3:3 and 2 timothy 3:16?

otherwise Jesus is talking to you in john 8:44.

dont welcome philosophy comments just give the bible verses
your dealing with w/o posting them up here word for word.
that's very stressful when we got users lined up. just ask everybody to have their bible handy here. hope you take this
in love. thank you.

Your English grammer and linguistic skills resemble another poster here that calls himself "John the Baptist." Do you know of him? Perhaps you are from the same part of the world and that is why you use English in a similar manner.

Sometimes it is difficult to understand your posts, but am trying.


Title: Re:who doesn't despise any bible topic?
Post by: Fewarechosen7F on January 28, 2004, 01:19:18 AM
Hello Tonytony,

The verses need to be posted along with the comments to help the new believer know why we make the comments.

(just real sheep on a mission for real bible believer unity.)
That is who I am.

(can you take on these verses ?)

(1 timothy 2:9-12)
1ti 2:9   In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

Women are to adorn themselves in like manner as the men. They are making themselves ready to receive salvation anointing. They are to adorn themselves with prayer, with lifted up holy hands, with love that is void of wrath and doubting. Like men, women are to adorn themselves with shame for having done past sin, and with modesty, and with sober thinking and speaking and doing.

1ti 2:10   But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.   
These are the things (listed above) that make women beautiful in the eyes of God and men. And costly outer array has nothing to do with real beauty. But costly inner array is unrepented sin, which must be cast away.

1ti 2:11   Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.   
To increase ones knowledge in silence merely means be continually learning quietly. It means that the woman should not ever be meddling in other people's business, especially in public. And to be with all subjection means to be obedient in the Lord. The godly woman is to be obedient to her husband, especially in public. (They can discuss why she thought he was in error in private.) She is not to give others amunition for gossip about herself and her husband. (Gossip causes others to sin against those gossiped about.)

1ti 2:12   But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.   

We must remember that the scriptures were written when the Church was still new. It was only about the second or third generation of he Church.The leaders knew what they were talking about. But the men of the body were barely getting to the pint of being truly separate from the world. The men had learned more than the women, who were learning, but in most cases much more slowly than the men. NOBODY is to go forth to teach while still a novice, so the women could not yet teach.

(Mr 16:16)
Mr 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.   

A man can be baptized in water and be just as lost as he was before. To be saved the man must frist be baptized in the full understanding of sin and it's cause and effects until he repents all sin. That baptism opens the doorway between himself and Yeshua. But he has only repented sin and must now receive a second baptism. The man whose mind and heart are baptized in the thoughts of Yeshua's mind, and believes those things shall be saved. All men who have not gone through this process are damned already by their own hand.

romans 6:1
Ro 6:1   What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?   

Grace has already abounded to those of us who have received the baptism unto salvation. If we continue to sin, grace cannot abound to others through us, and we would have condemned the inhabitants of the earth to hell everlasting.

do you believe matthew 15:14 even if you have to leave a
ministry?  
Mt 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.   
YES! When you discover that your preacher has been decieving you because he has been decieved himself, leave him alone if he will not repent.

feel driven to fulfill 1 cor. 6;
YES! The whole chapter speaks of purifying the church body, cleansing sin out from among themselves.

amos 3:3
Am 3:3   Can two walk together, except they be agreed?   
Christians must come to agreement in Christ, which means that they are going to have to overcome all religious doctrines that they were born to, and be born again of the truth.

and 2 timothy 3:16?
2ti 3:16   All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness   

Yes! And every person has to digest the strong meat of the word.

otherwise Jesus is talking to you in john 8:44.
Joh 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.   
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.   
Joh 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.   

The so-called Christian who chooses to do otherwise is of his father the devil, and the truth is not in him.

In Christ,