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Theology / Debate / WHAT IS PAUL'S FIRST LETTER TO US ??
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on: July 05, 2018, 03:22:25 PM
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Hi to all and Paul is the WRENCH in most people theology !! I remember when a Acts 28er , and HYPER- Dispensationalist asked when the BODY of Christ began and his answer was , the Body of Christ began when Paul wrote his FIRST EPISTLE , and the 28er never ask if that is so , what book are you talking about and that was years ago . about 25 years ago !!
Today there is the Acts 2 , Pentecostal position , the Acts 9 dispensational position , the Acts 7 position the Acts 11 dispensational position , the Acts 13 dispensational position and the Acts 28er dispispenationalists as to when the Body of Christ began !!
Gal 4:13 reads , But YOU KNOW that through weakness of the flesh , I PREACHED the GOSPEL to you the first time !!
#1 I believe that this is Paul's first book !!
#2 , The first verb is YE KNOW / EIDO and is in the Greek PERFECT TENSE , ACTIVE VOICE and a INDICATIVE MOOD !!
#3 , The PERFECT TENSE means that from the beginning of the Galatians salvation CONTINUES until the end of there lives and also means OSAS !!
#4 , The second verb is I PREACHED THE GOSPEL / EUAGGELIZO is in the Greek AORIST TENSE and proves that they were saved under Paul's earthly ministry !!
#5 Gal 1:15 when Paul was SEPARATED / APHORIZO FOR God's Gospel !!
#6 Rom 1:1 proves the Paul was SEPARATED / APHORIZO which is in the Greek PERFECT TENSE and that from then on , Paul was LIMITED TO only preach the Gospel of God !!
#7 This is why the Acts 28er or HYPER- DISPENATIONALIST refuse to accept Paul's letter as to the Body of Christ !!
#8 Gal 4:13 also refutes Matt 16:18 !!
dan p
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Theology / Debate / Re: DOES JESUS HAVE THE BLOOD OF MARY WHEN HE WAS BORN ??
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on: June 05, 2018, 03:33:02 PM
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I will not get into a debate over this with you. Too many people over think this with the intent to question His divinity. I will also say quite definitively that scripture is quite clear. The answers are there if one but reads it with the spirit of God. Jesus was both fully man and fully God. The Bible states that it was so and that was of a necessity for the requirement of salvation for all. A good place to start in this study is in Hebrews 2.
Hi and the reason I brought this post up is because , yes He is the God-MAN but his blood had to not br TINTED by human blood as His blood had to be spotless to be EFFECT and cleanse all sin and so fulfill Heb 9:15 and Pay for of Israel 's sins that were COVERED by Israel's sacrifices !! And also that there some who promote Mary as the Queen of Heaven and say Mary is sinless !! dan p
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Theology / Debate / Re: DOES ANYONE HERE BELIEVE IN KJV-ONLY ??
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on: May 07, 2018, 02:09:11 PM
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I'll speak for myself and say no. The Holy Bible wasn't written in English, so the KJV is just an English translation. The KJV translators stated in the introduction that they used numerous older translations AND that the KJV is not inspired by God. They basically said that they did the best they could but knew there were errors in the KJV. The original 1611 version of the KJV had alternate readings in the margins. There were multiple versions of the KJV, and I'm using the 1769 version of the KJV.
I like the KJV because I grew up with it, but I also use the ancient languages, ESV, NASB, and others. I think that the ESV and the NASB are both better word for word translations of the Holy Bible. I will no longer debate this topic because it ends up in bashing good translations of the Holy Bible, including the KJV.
Hi and I agree with you , that only the originals are inspired , and many get up set if you used OR change any wor !! In 1 Tim 1:4 the KJV uses the English words " godly edifying " BUT the Greek word translated " godly edifying " is the Greek word OIKONOMIA which means dispensation ! and they also words that bare in ITALICS are added words in English !! I like you grew up with the KJV and I prefer it !! If you could see what they called me , an SCAMER , MISTIC , BIBLE CORRECTER and other words , all other sites would BAN THEM , O WELL !! dan p
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Theology / Debate / DOES ANYONE HERE BELIEVE IN KJV-ONLY ??
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on: May 05, 2018, 02:47:03 PM
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Hi to all and many do believe in KJV-ONLY and that means to many , that the KJV bible is also inspired and also means they believe in DOUBLE INSPIRATION ?
If you do believe that the KJV-ONLYISM , there are about 160 translations , are all INSPIRED ??
dan p
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Theology / Debate / GAL 3:28 VS 2 COR 6:18 !!
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on: May 03, 2018, 06:42:47 PM
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Hi to all and in 2 Cor 6:18 reads , And I will be a Father to you and you will be sons and daughters to Me , says ( the ) Lord Almighty !!
And Gal 3:28 says that their are no Males and Females for you are all one "in Christ Jesus !!
How will you reconcile these to verses ??
What say you ??
dan p
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Theology / Debate / Re: Are the 12 Apostles In or Out of the Body of Christ ?
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on: October 21, 2017, 03:06:59 PM
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So, according to you, nobody is in the Body of Christ. See how that thinking works.
Hi and in Col 3:11 reads , Where there cannot be Greek and Jew , circumcision and un-circumcision , Foreigner , Scythian , slave , ( nor ) , but Christ ( is ) the all things !! Please notice the Col 3:11 is the reverse of Gal 3:28 because is begining with Jew and then Greek , it Col 3:11 begins with there CAN NOT BE GREEK and that is because Paul's message to only now primarily to Gentiles as written in Gal 2:8 , and Rom 11:13 !! The FOCUS is now on Eph 3:8 !! dan p
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Theology / Debate / Re: IS THERE ONLY ONE GOSPEL ??
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on: September 18, 2017, 02:14:31 PM
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Himand here is what I see in Rom 5:13 and 14 !!
All should see that this is the ONLY TIME that a Human has FREE WILL and will never happen again !!
Why , because the text says soon , over the one's NOT having sinned after the likeness of the transgression of Adam !!
So what was the gospel preached at that time ?
In Gen 4:4 is obviously that Abel and Cain knew what to bring to God ,as an offering !!
Abel brought the firstling of his flock , a sheep !!
Cain brought the fruit of the ground and God had no respect , as Cain brought the WORK of his hands , like many do today !!
So the you could called it , the Gospel of blood sacrifice ?
The Pattern of the old creation was Adam but the Jesus is the Pattern of the coming one ot New Creation !!
So there is more than one gospel and I see 5 gospel through time , The Gospel of the Un-circumcision , the gospel of the Circumcision , Gal 2:7 the gospel ;preached to Abram in Gal 3:8 , the Everlasting Gospel preached in Rev 14 and the gospel in Rom 5:14
dan p
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Theology / Debate / IS THERE ONLY ONE GOSPEL ??
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on: September 15, 2017, 02:11:56 PM
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Hi to all and when seeing other sites , they say that there is ONLY one Gospel !!
I believe that there is only one Gospel today , the Gospel of the Grace of God ! and saved by the preaching of the MYSTERY !!
So is Rom 5:14 we read , But death reigned from Adam until Moses , even over the ones NOT having sinned after the likeness of the trangression of Adam , who is a pettern of the coming (* ONE ) .
My question to all is How were people saved between Adam and Moses ??
dan p
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Theology / Debate / Re: Is love above faith?
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on: August 23, 2017, 01:47:20 PM
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God is love (1 John 4: . Therefore, to have faith in God is to have faith in God’s unconditional love which enabled Him to offer His life as a sacrifice for those who hurt Him and were unfaithful to Him. To have faith in His love does not mean that we merely know that He died for our sins (because even the devil knows that), but to put His love into practice; because, James (James 2:26) tell us that faith without works is dead faith. Furthermore, the scriptures tell us that love is above faith (1 Corinthians 13:2); love brings forgiveness of sins (1 Peter 4:8; Luke 7:47); acts of love are necessary in order to enter heaven (Matthew 25: 33-35); and forgive others in order to receive forgiveness (Luke 6:37). Therefore, is love above faith? Hi and in 1 Cor 13:13 it reads , And now remains faith , hope love , these 3 things , but ( the ) greatest od these ( is ) love !! Why , because , when Christ comes back our faith and hope will be made sight !! dan p
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Theology / Debate / HOW WAS PAUL SAVED IN ACTS 9:6 !!
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on: August 09, 2017, 06:48:38 PM
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Hi to all and here is the third reason Paul was the PATTERN of salvation for TODAY !!
Acts 9:6 And trembling and terrified , he said , LORD , what do you wish me to do ? And the LORD said to him , Rise and go into the city and it will be told you what is necessary for you to do !!
And Jesus was called LORD , SIR , MASTER , SON OF God and is Paul calling Jesus LORD different this TIME ??
Read 1 Cor 12:3 Therefore , I make known to you that NO ONE SPEAKING by God's Spirit says Jesus ( is ) Accursed , and No One is ABLE to SAY LORD JESUS except by ( the ) HOLY SPIRIT !!
This then , means Paul was speaking by the Holy Spirit !!
This also means Paul has the HOLY Spirit because Paul was saved at that point in Time !!
Thr first 3 verbs , KNOWN , SPEAKING and ABLE are all in the PRESENT TENSE and that means what happened then is CONTINUOUS ACTION forever and Paul is always SAVED !!
The fourth verb is the Greek word SAY and is in the AORIST TENSE and points back to the time that Paul called Jesus LORD !!
So Paul was then BAPTIZO / PLACED into teh Body of Christ , 1 Cor 12:13 , which is his second baptism !!
His third BAPTISM happens in Acts 9:17 when Ananias says to Paul " and might be FULL OF HOLY SPIRIT !!
Please notice that Ananias did NOT say be full of ( the ) Holy Spirit , BECAUSE the Greek ARTICLE ( THE ) is not in the Greek text and that means since the word ( the ) is not USED Paul receives the POWER OF HOLY SPIRIT and that means Paul RECEIVED the Holy Spirit 3 DIFFERENT WAYS so count them before you get UPSET !!
dan p
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Theology / Debate / SECOND PROOF THAT PAUL WAS SAVED BY THE MYSTERY !!
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on: August 09, 2017, 03:00:51 PM
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Hi to all and I believe in the verse that follow will show that Paul was the first one saved by Grace and the MYSTERY !!
Gal 1:15 reads But when God was well pleased , the ONE having SEPARATED me from my mother's womb , and having called me by His Grace !!
#1, The first verb is IT PLEASED / EUDOKEO is in the Greek AOTIST TENSE , ACTIVE VOICE and in the INDICATIVE MOOD !!
#2 , The AOTIST TENSE points to a once only time point as to when Paul was called Gal 1:15 and also to Acyts 9:6 !!
#3 , The ACTIVE VOICE means that the subject , God , separated Paul from his mother's womb !!
#4 The indicative Mood means Gal 1:15 is a FACT that it happened !!
In Rom 1:1 it reads , Paul a slave of Christ Jesus , a called apostle , Having Been SEPARATED for God's gospel !!
The Greek word SEPARATED / APHORIZO is in the Greek PERFECT TENSE , ACTIVE VOICE and a PARTICIPLE !!
#1 The PERFECT TENSE means that from the time of Paul being separated , called the AOTIST or the Past Tense and from then on it means Paul CONTINUES to be an apostle forever as the PRESENT TENSE means continuous action !!
#2 The Greek word APHROIZO can be translated by the following words , SEPARATED , LIMITED or by BOUNDARY !!
#3 This means that Paul LIMITED to only preach the Gospel of God and never preach the Kingdom of Heaven gospel !!
dan p
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Theology / Debate / WHAT 1 Cor 15:8 means for TODAY !!
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on: August 08, 2017, 06:43:56 PM
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Hi to all and 1 Cor 15:8 is just one of 3 proofs that the Paul was the the first one saved by Grace !!
1 Cor 15:8 reads , And last of all He was SEEN / OPTANOMAI is in the Aorist tense , Passive Voice and in the Indicative Mood , by me also , as if it were an UNTIMELY BIRTH / ERTROMA !!
#1, EKTROMA means a miscarriage , abortion ot OUT OF ORDER !!
#2 Only Paul was a miscarriage !!
#3 The 12 born in DUE TIME !!
#4 This means that Paul was the beginning of the Body of Christ !!
#5 ,Firist saved by Grace as Gal 1:15 and Acts 9:6 have said !!
#6 This also means that the MYSTERY was born out of due time !!
#7 This also means B O C was born out of due time and ETC , ETC !!
Like I have said , this is just one proof !!
dan p
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Theology / Debate / Re: Are the 12 Apostles In or Out of the Body of Christ ?
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on: August 08, 2017, 06:19:47 PM
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So, according to you, nobody is in the Body of Christ. See how that thinking works.
Hi and Gal 3:28 says THERE CANNOT BE / ENI and is in the Greek PERSENT TENSE and that means that ALL that are PLACED into the Body of Christ lose their IDENIITY because we are A new creation " in Christ " Jesus !! Col 3:11 is very similar to Gal 3:28 !! dan p
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