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Title: Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Ambassador4Christ on November 14, 2003, 10:12:38 PM

Why Do People Go To Hell?

Most believe it is because of sin. But this is not so.
People go to hell because of unbelief.

There are two issues here.

1. Christ has paid (past tense) for all sin, for all men for all time.

This is evident for the scripture says, Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

All of our sin was in the future when Christ died. The issue is belief and trust.

2. Belief of the truth is what God is looking for. Notice:

1 Tim 4:10 ... because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

Those who will not believe that Christ paid for their sins will have to pay for them themselves, for eternity, in the lake of fire.

The choice is yours but I beg you in Christ stead to put your trust in HIM and HIM alone.

Christ died – that's history

Christ died for me – that’s salvation




==
Col. 1:27  To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Allinall on November 15, 2003, 01:21:46 AM
Death is the judgment for sin.  Hell is the judgment for dying in sin - effectively disbelieving God, and subsequently rejecting Christ.  Good post brother!  :)


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Heidi on November 15, 2003, 09:32:58 AM
I don't see hell as a judgment. I see it as a simple reality. Hell is life without God. If we reject God, we will not find heaven. That's all there is to it.


Title: Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Brother Love on November 17, 2003, 04:30:42 AM
People go to hell because of unbelief.

Amen

Brother Love :)


Title: Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Ambassador4Christ on November 18, 2003, 05:21:20 PM
Death is the judgment for sin.  Hell is the judgment for dying in sin - effectively disbelieving God, and subsequently rejecting Christ.  Good post brother!  :)

Amen Brother


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: KiwiChristian on November 19, 2003, 03:01:47 PM
Amen!!!
Good post......


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: ollie on November 19, 2003, 07:20:26 PM
People go to hell because of unbelief.

Amen

Brother Love :)
Yes, even good, morally, good people if outside of Christ and God the Father.
Hard to accept sometimes, but it is true or else God would be a liar and He isn't a liar. Very sad indeed. The reason we should be working even harder to share and give the love of God concerning His Son.


Title: Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Brother Love on November 20, 2003, 04:58:19 AM
People go to hell because of unbelief.

Amen

Brother Love :)

I agree Brother

Brother Love :)
Yes, even good, morally, good people if outside of Christ and God the Father.
Hard to accept sometimes, but it is true or else God would be a liar and He isn't a liar. Very sad indeed. The reason we should be working even harder to share and give the love of God concerning His Son.


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Jesussavedusall on November 22, 2003, 08:11:51 PM
So if people go to hell because of disbelief, what happens to infants who die before they can learn?


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Fullaquestions on November 22, 2003, 08:15:51 PM
Hmm...but what if your loved ones are non believers and end up in hell , will heaven still be heaven for you or will it be hell ?


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Jesussavedusall on November 23, 2003, 07:07:28 PM
Well, if you believe in the grace of God, then your relatives being in hell shouldn't matter because once you are in heaven God will make everything ok.

Besides, if you can't convert your relatives, then are they actually worth anything? If they go to Hell, they deserved it.


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Allinall on November 23, 2003, 11:22:52 PM
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So if people go to hell because of disbelief, what happens to infants who die before they can learn?

This is a highly debated topic, but this is my understanding of it that might help. "Now faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God."  The saving faith comes from hearing, and accepting God's word.  One must first be given a chance to believe before God will hold them accountable.  Children are not capable of this as infants.  I believe that there is a principle of the age of accountability to consider here.  As for adults who have never heard..."they are without excuse," because God "calls all men everywhere unto repentance."  Read Romans 1 for a better understanding of this.



Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Allinall on November 23, 2003, 11:26:00 PM
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Hmm...but what if your loved ones are non believers and end up in hell , will heaven still be heaven for you or will it be hell ?

Heaven my friend is not an experience, but a place.  Hell is not a difficult time, but an eternal place of judgment.  If my loved ones do not believe and die while I yet live...I am crushed.  But when I get to Heaven myself - all there is is Jesus.  I will be enamored with His presence so much that I will simply glorify Him.   :)


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Jesussavedusall on November 24, 2003, 12:56:44 AM
Wait, so what is your position on the relatives being in hell?


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Forrest on November 24, 2003, 01:53:35 AM
    Mine is they made their choice, don't get me wrong it hurts when each reject Christs Death.I like Paul would gladly give them my salvation and take their place in hell, but I can't its their choice.


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Heidi on November 25, 2003, 09:58:59 AM
I used to be sad that not everybody will be saved. But I've just been posting on forums with unbelievers and now I understand why it's right and just that most will go to hell. These people don't WANT to go to heaven. They make it very clear that they WANT to keep sinning, don't love God and want no part of heaven. Therefore, judgment day is fair and just. Being on those forums is indeed like a sheep in a den of wolves!


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Whitehorse on November 26, 2003, 12:53:29 AM
Yep; their wills are involved, and there's a lot of deception in the mix, too. But even a lot of that is willing deception.

The postmodern movement says it's okay for people to bend or break the truth to conform the truth to their desired "realities"-ones of their own creating. Of course they won't articulate it that way, but that's what's happening. And it seems like everyone should know intuitively that we can't create our own realities. It's impossible. We're just not that powerful-only God is. But this notion is enticing for a lot of people. They believe it because it puts them in the driver's seat. But in reality, we can't do this. So it's deception, and it's also a willing deception.

The thing to ask a postmodernist is if there's any such thing as absolute truth. They say no. So we ask them if that is the absolute truth. They cannot say either yes or no without completely their worldview completely crumbling to pieces. Postmodernism is a logical impossibility.

The thing we need to work at is to undo the deceptions by the word of God, logic, and by making the truth sweet to them through Christ's love. Making them know how loved they are by loving them through Christ. It helps them overcome the emotional obstacles to finding truth. and makes the truth far less threatening.


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Jesussavedusall on November 26, 2003, 03:24:48 AM
Postmodernism does not make sense. it is simply one of the stupidest concepts I have ever heard of. I can't say anything except that it is stupid, because to explain it would only stress that it makes no sense whatsoever, like I already did.

As for the relatives thing, yeah, if God doesn't love them enough to let them into heaven, then why should we care? Brothers, Sisters, parents, they were created by God anyway, and just because they are our relatives doesn't mean anything.

They are a tool of the Devil, and we will enjoy our time in heaven and they can suffer where they belong.

I agree with you that they are doing that on purpose. I mean how could you possibly not believe in God, when it hits you in the face every day? Your parents tell you, you go to church and everyone tells you, forums, friends, I mean this country is practically a Christian country they probably don't even believe what they are saying. They just want to deny it because they are arrogant and do not want to know God.

Also, it's sad how most people who say they are Christian don't act like it. They say they accept Christ, then they do things like premarital sex. I think that is just wrong.


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: bluelake on November 29, 2003, 10:30:30 PM
reply to no.8 (infants)
Before the age of accountability God would judge them differently. The Bible says that to whom much is given, much is required. The Bible also tells us that we are bring up our children in the faith, (Mt18:6)

Our God is a loving God. Do you think God would send a innocent babe to hell? I myself do not think so.
God bless,
bluelake


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Brother Love on December 01, 2003, 04:10:25 AM
reply to no.8 (infants)

Our God is a loving God. Do you think God would send a innocent babe to hell? I myself do not think so.
God bless,
bluelake

I agree

Brother Love :)


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: bluelake on December 02, 2003, 01:37:12 AM
To quote a favorite preacher of mine, (Adrian Rogers)
"a young man asked a preacher, "where is hell? the preacher told him, "It's at the end of a Christless life."

Aren't you elated, God has chosen us from the foundation of the world. Praise God. :D  (Eph.1:4 "for he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blamless in his sight."  Doesn't that touch your spirit. What an awesome God!

God bless you all,
bluelake.


Title: Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Brother Love on December 05, 2003, 09:30:45 AM
To quote a favorite preacher of mine, (Adrian Rogers)
"a young man asked a preacher, "where is hell? the preacher told him, "It's at the end of a Christless life."

Aren't you elated, God has chosen us from the foundation of the world. Praise God. :D  (Eph.1:4 "for he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blamless in his sight."  Doesn't that touch your spirit. What an awesome God!

God bless you all,
bluelake.

AMEN bluelake AMEN

Brother Love :)


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Ambassador4Christ on December 05, 2003, 06:33:31 PM
GRRRRRRREAT Quote:


"a young man asked a preacher, "where is hell? the preacher told him, "It's at the end of a Christless life."

Thanks BlueLake, Amen



Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Paul2 on December 05, 2003, 11:36:52 PM
  People CHOOSE to go to hell because they HATE the TRUTH. They Hate the possibility that the Bible is the Truth. They reject the truth, can't stand to hear the truth and welcome lies. They hate the fact that theres a creator that they must give account to. They hate Jesus and His way of redemption. Those who are religous, seek their own method of Salvation, because they hate God's method of Grace through Faith alone in Christ.

     The bottom line is they hate the truth!

      You can say you don't believe in gravity, but you still fall down, its there whether or not you believe it.


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Petro on December 06, 2003, 01:01:54 AM
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath showed it unto them.  (Rom 1:18-19)

So it is only right, that God would send those who reject the truth, and as Paul2 has stated, embrace the lie as though it were the truth.

What else is there to believe in, or place ones faith in, if one has rejected the truth concerning God.

 


Petro


Title: Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Brother Love on December 08, 2003, 06:04:38 AM
 People CHOOSE to go to hell because they HATE the TRUTH. They Hate the possibility that the Bible is the Truth. They reject the truth, can't stand to hear the truth and welcome lies. They hate the fact that theres a creator that they must give account to. They hate Jesus and His way of redemption. Those who are religous, seek their own method of Salvation, because they hate God's method of Grace through Faith alone in Christ.

     The bottom line is they hate the truth!

      You can say you don't believe in gravity, but you still fall down, its there whether or not you believe it.

Right On!! Amen Paul2

Brother Love :)


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: EndTimeAction on December 10, 2003, 11:44:02 AM
"People go to hell because of unbelief". Amen


There are many people today that dont even believe in a literal hell. People are quick to accept Jesus teachings on heaven, but just as quick to dismiss his teachings on hell. The truth is, I dont want to belive in a lake of burning fire where people will burn in torment forever. You would have to be a sick person to "want" to belive in hell. But if the Bible is the literal word of God, and IT IS, then we must accept it. If hell is not judgment then what did Christ die for? What did he save us from? Christ did not die in vain. God is Love, and God is the righteous judge of all his creation.


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: EndTimeAction on December 10, 2003, 12:05:37 PM

"You stand over the mouth of hell on a single plank, and that plank is rotten. You hang over the jaws of perdition by a solitary rope, and the strands of that rope are snapping one by one. Frailer than the spider's web is your life, and yet that is the only thing which divides you from a world of despair. The slightest insect commissioned by God's providence may end your unhappy life."   (Charles H. Spurgeon) :'(

see also
http://www.worthynews.com/Sermons/spurturnorburn.htm


Title: Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Ambassador4Christ on December 10, 2003, 04:10:19 PM
"People go to hell because of unbelief". Amen


There are many people today that dont even believe in a literal hell. People are quick to accept Jesus teachings on heaven, but just as quick to dismiss his teachings on hell. The truth is, I dont want to belive in a lake of burning fire where people will burn in torment forever. You would have to be a sick person to "want" to belive in hell. But if the Bible is the literal word of God, and IT IS, then we must accept it. If hell is not judgment then what did Christ die for? What did he save us from? Christ did not die in vain. God is Love, and God is the righteous judge of all his creation.

Amen ETA


Title: Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Brother Love on December 11, 2003, 04:27:27 AM
"People go to hell because of unbelief". Amen


There are many people today that dont even believe in a literal hell. People are quick to accept Jesus teachings on heaven, but just as quick to dismiss his teachings on hell. The truth is, I dont want to belive in a lake of burning fire where people will burn in torment forever. You would have to be a sick person to "want" to belive in hell. But if the Bible is the literal word of God, and IT IS, then we must accept it. If hell is not judgment then what did Christ die for? What did he save us from? Christ did not die in vain. God is Love, and God is the righteous judge of all his creation.

Right On!!! ETA

AMEN!!!

Brother Love :)


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: The Crusader on December 27, 2003, 04:09:02 AM

Why Do People Go To Hell?

Most believe it is because of sin. But this is not so.
People go to hell because of unbelief.

There are two issues here.

1. Christ has paid (past tense) for all sin, for all men for all time.

This is evident for the scripture says, Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

All of our sin was in the future when Christ died. The issue is belief and trust.

2. Belief of the truth is what God is looking for. Notice:

1 Tim 4:10 ... because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

Those who will not believe that Christ paid for their sins will have to pay for them themselves, for eternity, in the lake of fire.

The choice is yours but I beg you in Christ stead to put your trust in HIM and HIM alone.

Christ died – that's history

Christ died for me – that’s salvation




==
Col. 1:27  To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.


I agree the answer is unbelief.

The Crusader


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Mick on December 30, 2003, 08:11:54 AM
 If people choose not to accept Jesus they don't really WANT to go to heaven and be near him do they?
   Jesus said "In my Fathers kingdom are many mansions,I'm going there to prepare places for you,so that we'll all be there together" (John 14:2)
Therefore,because the only alternative to heaven is hell,they're SENDING THEMSELVES to Satan by their own free choice!


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Heidi on December 30, 2003, 10:25:17 AM
I,ve been posting on another forum for over 3 months now and I'm telling you what; I now know that hell is a fair and just punishment for unbelief because these people are PROUD of the fact that they don't believe. They are very glib about God and havd blatantly said they would rather die than accept God. So yes, God' punishment is fair and just. That forum has shown me why.


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: ebia on December 30, 2003, 05:10:04 PM
I,ve been posting on another forum for over 3 months now and I'm telling you what; I now know that hell is a fair and just punishment for unbelief because these people are PROUD of the fact that they don't believe. They are very glib about God and havd blatantly said they would rather die than accept God. So yes, God' punishment is fair and just. That forum has shown me why.
Infinite punishment is a just & fair reward for being mistaken?


Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Sower on December 30, 2003, 06:42:45 PM

Why Do People Go To Hell?
Most believe it is because of sin. But this is not so.
People go to hell because of unbelief.  

Amen, A4C! That is EXACTLY what Scripture teaches:

He that BELIEVETH on the Son of God hath [already has] everlasting life

And he that BELIEVETH NOT the Son shall not see life, but THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM. (Jn.3:36)

Anyone reading this who does not have absolute assurance of eternal life should BELIEVE, REPENT, AND RECEIVE CHRIST. He is the ONLY WAY out of hell!



Title: Re:Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: The Crusader on December 31, 2003, 04:14:53 AM

Why Do People Go To Hell?
Most believe it is because of sin. But this is not so.
People go to hell because of unbelief.  

Amen, A4C! That is EXACTLY what Scripture teaches:

He that BELIEVETH on the Son of God hath [already has] everlasting life

And he that BELIEVETH NOT the Son shall not see life, but THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM. (Jn.3:36)

Anyone reading this who does not have absolute assurance of eternal life should BELIEVE, REPENT, AND RECEIVE CHRIST. He is the ONLY WAY out of hell!



One more Amen

The Crusader


Title: Why Do People Go To Hell?
Post by: Ambassador4Christ on January 01, 2004, 04:15:01 PM

Why Do People Go To Hell?
Most believe it is because of sin. But this is not so.
People go to hell because of unbelief.  

Amen, A4C! That is EXACTLY what Scripture teaches:

He that BELIEVETH on the Son of God hath [already has] everlasting life

And he that BELIEVETH NOT the Son shall not see life, but THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM. (Jn.3:36)

Anyone reading this who does not have absolute assurance of eternal life should BELIEVE, REPENT, AND RECEIVE CHRIST. He is the ONLY WAY out of hell!



Thanks Sower, Amen Brother