sorry pastor...my bad. I was just acknowleging you moderatinghood.

i never suggested that some of the apostles were not married. All i am saying is that god does not intend for priest to be married because if he did then they would be.

Pastor Rogers

with all due respect Jesus was talking about actual fathers.

Dreamweaver and Pastor Rogers... I know as moderators you have the power to boot me,That being said What was wrong with the Crusades? We got a lot Saints out of it and never was Christianity more unified. You do agree that christian unity is a good thing don't you?

  First let me say that as a man of God I respect you. However when these things were written these terms did not mean the same thing. What is worse deliberate mistranslation were employed when the protestants switched from the vulgate. It is true that the Greek Orthodox allow thier priest to marry...but never the Bishops.

I have looked through the board and I have not found a discussion on this topic. My question is simple can someone still be a christian and deny the work of the Lord through apostolic succession?

  forgive me for pointing out the obvious but in my neck of the woods, pastors (we like to call them priest) are not supposed to have any children. I supposed God intended it to be this way specifically for situations like this.

forgive me for sounding a bit pompous but have any of you fine people ever read the koran. It gets me hot under the collar when i hear people say we are at war with extremist...yeah they are called muslims. This is a ideology that must be wiped off the face of the earth. Think of it as a Crusade.

I agree that this is what we will have to do. It saddens me that people see the the Holy Father as outside the plan and work of God. But you are probably right about the mindset of the board

I understand what you are saying. Let me clarify. The wife of a mans father = HIS MOTHER. You hit on the one sin that is worse than homoperversion. In corinthians he probably just slept with his step-mother. iiiig gross

Of course I read all those verses but I think we are getting hung up on semantics here. First of all the pope is Christ vicar on earth. Yes we are all saints with a little s but I am talking about Saint's with a big S and we all know that only the Pope can make one of those. And I might add that to suggest that the Holy Father would make a Saint without God telling him to is sacriledge...and probably blasphemy too. 

forgive me for saying so kgb but you sound like a lefty to me. Please don't read this as an insult. It is just an observation.

  allow me to clarify

as to the jehovah's witnesses yes the are a cult. but there are lots of cults running around. you have the baptist and the episcopals and the methodist. oh the list is endless. all i am saying is the jehovahs witness's can be admired for their work ethic. Now when I say work is prayer all I am saying is like the shakers. Your work should be perfect without flaws because trees should be judged by their fruits.

As for saints...The holy father makes saints all the time, well not this one yet but give him time.

[Right On PR! (methinks piusx is probably a 'JW')]

Right On PR!  (methinks piusx is probably a 'JW')
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i did not say prayer is work...i said work is prayer. Big difference. I am not jw I am catholic. piusx as in pope pius x.
we really need to make him a saint...don't you think?

I think its wonderful that they would make these sins illegal by law, but let me ask you, what do you think should be the penalty for your sins

according to the bible...a wack across the head now and then