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Theology / Debate / Re:Speaking in Tongues
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on: October 28, 2004, 12:17:16 PM
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The KJV says, in full:
1Co 14:5 I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.
It has nothing to do with want, And as the rest of the sentence tells us Paul would rather that we were able to prophesy. For isn't it better to do what is of benefit to all and not just one?
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60588
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Theology / Debate / Re:Speaking in Tongues
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on: October 28, 2004, 01:11:19 AM
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Sulphurdolphin,
You quote a partial scripture, I Cor 14:5 as reading "I want for you all to speak with tongues..."
Which version of the "bible" did you get that from?
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60590
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Theology / Apologetics / Re:IS YOUR BIBLE THE RIGHT ONE?
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on: October 28, 2004, 12:56:20 AM
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Here is another one that causes a lot of problems.
KJV 1Co 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
NIV For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful.
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60591
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Theology / Debate / Re:Speaking in Tongues
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on: October 28, 2004, 12:38:58 AM
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1Co 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. 1Co 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
The greatest gift is Salvation through Jesus Christ (charity).
I will stick with charity and the seeking of understanding.
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60592
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Theology / Debate / Re:god's word
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on: October 27, 2004, 10:28:13 PM
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I questioned "change in tone" as that is a very popular term amongst atheists.
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60594
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Theology / Debate / Re:God's word
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on: October 27, 2004, 09:01:24 PM
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Many of the laws and rules that you speak of in the Old Testament was under the old covenant. We have a new covenant with God through Jesus Christ. As for what to eat the Bible tells us:
Mat 6:25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
Rom 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. Rom 14:3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
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60596
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Theology / Debate / Re:Speaking in Tongues
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on: October 27, 2004, 08:02:43 PM
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I agree that God does bestow us all with different gifts. I Corinthians chapters 12 through 14 tells us that speaking in tongues is a lesser gift as it does not benefit God that frequently. Three whole chapters was devoted to this subject because the church it was written to put to great an emphasis on the speaking in tongues instead of what is really important. It is more important to be able to prophesy or to be able to understand the Word of God. It is most important to have charity.
1Co 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. 1Co 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
The three most important things:
1Co 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
Charity here is not the present day meaning of it, the giving of material things to a needy organisation. The meaning of Charity here is LOVE. God's love for us, our love for God, our love for our brothers and our enemies.
The other gifts will pass away and be of no importance when Jesus returns. But charity will never pass.
1Co 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 1Co 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 1Co 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
I will stick with charity and the seeking of understanding.
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Theology / Debate / Re:Speaking in Tongues
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on: October 27, 2004, 12:30:25 PM
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Speaking in tongues is a gift. When i first accepted Christ as my saviour at the age of 12 i could speak in tongues when the holy spirit came into me (Christ). It's a prayer language between you and God. Chapter 12 in 1 Corinthians talks about different gifts and tongues and Chapter 14 in 1 Corinthians. Dont let anyone tell you any different, If you desire to speak in tongues keep praying and anoint yourself with oil or possibly fasting and God will hear your prayers and grant them for you.
Michael
Chapter 13 also discusses it. Chapter 13 is one of the most important one to read on this. In your last statement.... Are you saying that if you don't do this that he won't hear me and/or won't answer my prayers?
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